robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Odoi is twice the player Mudryk is at this time. I'm talking even when Odoi was ineffective, which indeed happened often after his injury. I'm talking about the basics of movement, one-twos, tracking back, etc. Odoi is just a far more ready player in my book. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,874 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 That's crazy. Why these players shit at us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,202 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Nero said: That's crazy. Why these players shit at us? Callum Hudson-Odoi Mykhailo Mudryk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,717 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 When are y'all gonna keep realising it isn't the players, but the tactics and culture? "How do these players suddenly become shit when they come to us?" We aren't putting them in positions to score. Simple. Haaland would be on a third of the goals he is on now if he was here. You wouldn't even know how good he actually is with the way we setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,202 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Thor said: When are y'all gonna keep realising it isn't the players, but the tactics and culture? "How do these players suddenly become shit when they come to us?" We aren't putting them in positions to score. Simple. Haaland would be on a third of the goals he is on now if he was here. You wouldn't even know how good he actually is with the way we setup. so put you down as calling for a Poch sacking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) Ukraine league is just too weak to be used as reference, esp compared to the PL. Where you play, who you play against, and who you play with means *everything*. We are not cursed 😆 the demands of playing for a top club can be vastly different from playing for a smaller club: not only the pressure, but also strategies. Smaller teams do play differently with much different team setups. It's quite common for players to not pan out at a bigger club who need to drop a level. Come on... we play the PL with a U23 Olympic team with a bunch of nobodies ok "bets", but it's always the manager. 😅 replace Poch and it's going to be the same shit. Start with the manager dance and we will find out how much lower can the club go. Edited September 19, 2023 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,717 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Vesper said: so put you down as calling for a Poch sacking? Sometimes thing don't click straight away. With Conte we lost and drew a bunch before we got going. I'm hoping that is the case here, and some time to grow into the players they can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Thor said: Sometimes thing don't click straight away. With Conte we lost and drew a bunch before we got going. I'm hoping that is the case here, and some time to grow into the players they can be. Conte and Poch different in terms of coaching style and demeanour though. Plus Conte had already coached 343 in pre-season (why he didn’t roll with it from day 1 I don’t know) and it took everyone by shock - so it’s not really the same because Poch has played 343/352 and 4231 already and still nothing looks quite comfortable. Plus that squad was much much better, so many more competent top top players so that was always going to help, regardless. We don’t have that quality or even the knowhow on how to win games playing poorly due to lacking these sort of players (the likes of Costa, Hazard, Pedro, Kante, Cesc etc). It’s going to be a long season again. Edited September 19, 2023 by OneMoSalah DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) Can blame the players but for me the tactics are equally poor and aren't getting any better. Predictable attacking play that's piss easy to defend against. Edited September 19, 2023 by MoroccanBlue OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Can blame the players but for me the tactics are equally poor and aren't getting any better. Predictable attacking play that's piss easy to defend against. I think some of the patterns may take time but I know a lack of proven quality in attack outside of Sterling and Nkunku is going to be an issue throughout the whole season. Don’t know what to expect from half of the other guys week in week out. You can be the best drilled team in the world but without genuine quality, you will struggle to make the difference. Edited September 19, 2023 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,202 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Brentford fear Rico Henry out for season with serious knee injury 😓 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,202 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Bernardo Silva injury: Pep Guardiola confirms Man City playmaker to miss time as Arsenal showdown looms The Portuguese international was forced off early against Red Star Belgrade as Pep Guardiola’s absentee list lengthens further https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/bernardo-silva-injury-man-city-pep-guardiola-arsenal-b1108145.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEVINAA 129 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) The True Geordie The Kick Off Why Chelsea will struggle this season Edited September 20, 2023 by KEVINAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DDA 9,941 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 More injuries to players than ever these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,717 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Vesper said: Sad to see. Perisic is from my birth country so sucks to have our golden generation hurting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 5 hours ago, DDA said: More injuries to players than ever these days. game's faster, more intense with most teams doing high press during good stretches of the game. There is no free lunch. Perisic is a very good player and the type of player I wish we had gone for for obvious reasons; would be able to stabilize the team esp under pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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