The English Football Thread

[Fulham Broadway 17,308]

Manchester City to face Premier League EXPULSION or points deduction as they are charged with breaking financial rules over 100 TIMES on sponsorship deals, secret contracts and payments

 

It's taken 4 years! Does that mean they lose their titles and cups ?

Does that mean Chelsea are still in the FA Cup?

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Point deduction make more sense cause if go down into three Championship no doubt be back up and that's taking another teams spot..

Guess if lose titles Liverpool gain a lot...

[YorkshireBlue 3,269]

'The Club welcomes the review of this matter by an independent Commission, to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position.

that basically says we are looking forward to paying some one millions to make this disappear 

 

 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,308]

13 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

Point deduction make more sense cause if go down into three Championship no doubt be back up and that's taking another teams spot..

Guess if lose titles Liverpool gain a lot...

If an athlete is caught doping years after them winning a world or Olympic title then they are punished/banned moving forward. Also they are stripped of titles and silver medalists get the gold retrospectively. Citeh should not keep any trophy they've won. Cheats!

But please dont investigate us....😱

[Vesper 30,139]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

 

It's taken 4 years! Does that mean they lose their titles and cups ?

Does that mean Chelsea are still in the FA Cup?

Man City facing punishment after more than 100 breaches of Premier League's financial rules

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/02/06/manchester-city-charged-premier-league-breaches-ffp-rules/

Manchester City are facing the threat of top flight expulsion after being charged by the Premier League with more than 100 alleged breaches of financial regulations.

 

In what is potentially one of the biggest scandals in English football history, the Premier League champions were on Monday hit by a catalogue of charges covering 14 seasons from 2009/10 to the current campaign.

 

The bombshell revelations follow a four-year investigation by the Premier League into City’s practices and, if the charges are proven, the club could face an unprecedented range of punishments including points deductions, sweeping fines and the ultimate sanction of expulsion from the league.

 

An independent disciplinary committee – which seems likely to be to be chaired by Murray Rosen KC – will hear the charges. The hearings will be held in private but no timescale has been set.

 

In a statement released on Monday morning, the Premier League said: “The Premier League confirms that it has today referred a number of alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules by Manchester City Football Club to a commission.”

 

City expressed “surprise” at the Premier League’s move and said it would welcome the commission’s hearing as a chance to put allegations of financial impropriety that have dogged the club for years “to rest once and for all”.

 

“Manchester City is surprised by the issuing of these alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules, particularly given the extensive engagement and vast amount of detailed materials that the EPL has been provided with,” the club said in a statement.

 

“The club welcomes the review of this matter by an independent commission, to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position.

 

“As such we look forward to this matter being put to rest once and for all.”

 

The reigning Premier League champions, who have won six titles since the Abu Dhabi-led takeover of 2008, have also been charged with failing to co-operate with the investigation, which has been carried out by an independent commission.

 

Those charges specifically apply to the period between 2018/19 and the current campaign.

 

City have also been charged by the Premier League over its alleged breach of Uefa regulations, having been found to have fallen foul of Club Licensing and FFP regulation in Europe.

 

Premier League rule W.51 covers the sanctioning powers of a commission where an alleged breach or breaches are found proven.

 

These range from a reprimand, from the deduction of points up to a recommendation to the league to expel a club from the competition.

 

The commission has the power to make such sanctions conditional on defined actions being taken within a fixed time period, and respondents have a right of appeal.

The chair of the independent Premier League judicial panel is Murray Rosen KC, who was appointed in 2020.

 

He will now select individuals to sit alongside him on a commission to consider the alleged rule breaches. The panel also has access to consult other independent financial and legal experts.

 

“The members of the Commission will be appointed by the independent Chair of the Premier League Judicial Panel,” the Premier League said in a statement.

 

“The proceedings before the Commission will, in accordance with Premier League Rule W.82, be confidential and heard in private. Under Premier League Rule W.82.2, the Commission's final award will be published on the Premier League's website.

 

“This confirmation is made in accordance with Premier League Rule W.82.1. The Premier League will be making no further comment in respect of this matter until further notice.”

[Fulham Broadway 17,308]

Wonder if we're still in the FA Cup then....or whether they lose all their cups and titles... 

Rhetorical

[Gundalf 805]

Nothing will happen. They will be fined a lot, which ofc is no problem for them and maybe a few points deduction, thats it. 

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Saw posted somewhere newspaper posted who missed out so who could be gained if stripped..a League Cup for us yippee lol

Premier League

Manchester United (2012)

Liverpool (2014)

Manchester United (2018)

Liverpool (2019)

Manchester United (2021)

Liverpool (2022)

 

FA Cup

Stoke City (2011)

Watford (2019)

 

League Cup

Sunderland (2014)

Liverpool (2016)

Arsenal (2018)

Chelsea (2019)

Aston Villa (2020)

Tottenham Hotspur (2021)

[Fulham Broadway 17,308]

16 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

Saw posted somewhere newspaper posted who missed out so who could be gained if stripped..a League Cup for us yippee lol

Premier League

Manchester United (2012)

Liverpool (2014)

Manchester United (2018)

Liverpool (2019)

Manchester United (2021)

Liverpool (2022)

 

FA Cup

Stoke City (2011)

Watford (2019)

 

League Cup

Sunderland (2014)

Liverpool (2016)

Arsenal (2018)

Chelsea (2019)

Aston Villa (2020)

Tottenham Hotspur (2021)

Thing is once they start investigating Liverpool, Utd, us, goons, and others  -it will just be ''They're all at it'', massive fines and revenue for the FA to squander.

[Blue Armour 4,438]

Whatever happens, they should not be stripped off previous titles or accolades.

That just leaves a bad taste in the mouths of the fans, and plus - it also takes away the achievements from some of the great players and managers who have represented City. I don't think those guys should be punished for that.

This isn't like Juve who were involved in actual match fixing.

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

What exactly did City (and Juventus) do ?
Where is the offense ?
I know we received a transfer ban once for spending too much money (breach of fiinancial fair play) and another time for bringing too many youngsters from Africa.
But this is different. 
What sort of offenses did they commit ?

[milka 3,392]

 

[Laylabelle 9,534]

2 hours ago, milka said:

 

I get why they could leave the league bit if they keep the players they have and all seems pointless. Unless something drastic happens they'll fly back and take someone else's place

[cosmicway 1,333]

I remember a somewhat similare case back in 1983.
AEK Athens signed Trevor Ross from Everton.
They said the cost was 250,000 pounds but after investigation it was half that amount.
The reason ? AEK club president had already borrowed 650,000 to the club and to get some of it back he inflated Ross's trasfer fee.
The PASOK government did n't like this man because he supported the opposition party so they investigated things and found the irregularity.
But this had no implications for the club - only the club president (Panagidis) had to resign.
Nowadays this sort of thing is punishable ?

[Vegetable 830]

3 hours ago, milka said:

 

Yeah, that surely could happen. In the world, where money and politics doesn't exist.