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3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

United and Arse going from embarrassing to title contenders within the span of a single year should give us all hope that we can completely turn things around next season. If we get the recruitment right, get rid of the right players, and the manager gets his ideas across.

Last season Arse were in the relegation area early on and there was a huge portion of their fan base calling for Arteta’s sacking because he was in totally over his head.

United were waddling through the mud and their fans were calling for every player bar De Gea to be sold. Like, literally without exaggeration. When Rashford was inexplicably linked with PSG a few months ago everyone (including United fans) laughed and said they’d personally drive him there for free. Now he’s a Player of the Season contender. It was the worst United side in decades. Now they’re a different club.

That’s the light at the tunnel for us if we get our midfield and attacking rebuild right over the next 2 windows.

That's it. The gap between then and us is huge! Way they play etc the fact the players don't give up! Man U started this season poorly now up to a point off 2nd place

Hopefully like you say we can get this right and get ourselves back up there. Rather then this play and our postion being the start of something...especially as been rebuilding for a while and hasn't gone smoothly sooo 

We're not getting top 4 so in a way less pressure but they still need to actually win and perform! 

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Erik ten Haag showing what a good manager can do.

No doubt, that United squad is worse than ours and made up of several players from different managerial spells but all things considered hes done excellently. Bits of good coaching/management, removing bad influences, instilling discipline/standards and even adding more aggressive players like Casemiro, Martinez and Malacia.

We should be very worried if United get a top CF next season.

Did not think they’d of had a chance to leapfrog us this season - expected EtH to need more time to do it but clearly not. 

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1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

Erik ten Haag showing what a good manager can do.

No doubt, that United squad is worse than ours and made up of several players from different managerial spells but all things considered hes done excellently. Bits of good coaching/management, removing bad influences, instilling discipline/standards and even adding more aggressive players like Casemiro, Martinez and Malacia.

We should be very worried if United get a top CF next season.

Did not think they’d of had a chance to leapfrog us this season - expected EtH to need more time to do it but clearly not. 

Nope and it's a 13 point gap now! Given how they started didn't see that coming but he's laid down his markers and having a impact on them. Unfortunately.

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The rule change is obviously stupid bcos Rashford clearly put Akanji off with his movement but Rashford exploited it and Akanji was clearly caught in two minds.

Knowing and being able to exploit new rules is also a skill a footballer needs to have in these days of constant tinkering with the laws of football.

It shows not even City can always compensate having a shit CB pairing in Akanji and Ake.

And yeah, Arsenal are now clear favourites for the first time in my eyes, if they win their next game, but keep in mind, due to the WC we are only at HT in the season. A lot can still happen, at if one team knows how to stage a spectacular collapse its Arsenal

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10 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

And now imagine City has 11 players injured. Would probably drop out of P4.

Probably but in contrast to us, City have not recently sacked a team of leading doctors and physios to repalce them with someone who once treated Katy Perry's sprained earlobes, so they are not gonna have 11 players injured simultaneously.

They might be psychopathic terrorist-suppoters but City's blood sheiks at least employ ppl who can run a football club instead of thinking they can run the place all by themselves like our braindead owners.

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22 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

The rule change is obviously stupid bcos Rashford clearly put Akanji off with his movement but Rashford exploited it and Akanji was clearly caught in two minds.

Knowing and being able to exploit new rules is also a skill a footballer needs to have in these days of constant tinkering with the laws of football.

It shows not even City can always compensate having a shit CB pairing in Akanji and Ake.

And yeah, Arsenal are now clear favourites for the first time in my eyes, if they win their next game, but keep in mind, due to the WC we are only at HT in the season. A lot can still happen, at if one team knows how to stage a spectacular collapse its Arsenal

But City are hardly solid so even if Arsenal do collapse they might not be able to take advantage.. 

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3 minutes ago, milka said:

we are miles behind from the other top clubs

In terms of mentality and team cohesion we are. In terms of talent we’re every bit as good if not better than most of the clubs above us.

We must purge all the mentally soft jokers and aging players if we want to turn this ship around. 

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6 minutes ago, Pizy said:

In terms of mentality and team cohesion we are. In terms of talent we’re every bit as good if not better than most of the clubs above us.

We must purge all the mentally soft jokers and aging players if we want to turn this ship around. 

Talent? We are further away on talent than the above.

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18 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Probably but in contrast to us, City have not recently sacked a team of leading doctors and physios to repalce them with someone who once treated Katy Perry's sprained earlobes, so they are not gonna have 11 players injured simultaneously.

They might be psychopathic terrorist-suppoters but City's blood sheiks at least employ ppl who can run a football club instead of thinking they can run the place all by themselves like our braindead owners.

Our medical departement was shit for years. There is a reason why these guys got fired. Bc the injury situation was bad even before Boehly took over. There is a reason why fans are crying for Eva to come back for years. You can are argue about the replacements, but the injury situation didnt start with Boehly. 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63052165

"The Premier League suffered the most injuries to players across the top five leagues in European football last season, new data shows. Of 1,231 injuries to Premier League players, Chelsea were the club hit by the most, with 97, the research says."

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7 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Our medical departement was shit for years. There is a reason why these guys got fired. Bc the injury situation was bad even before Boehly took over. There is a reason why fans are crying for Eva to come back for years. You can are argue about the replacements, but the injury situation didnt start with Boehly. 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63052165

"The Premier League suffered the most injuries to players across the top five leagues in European football last season, new data shows. Of 1,231 injuries to Premier League players, Chelsea were the club hit by the most, with 97, the research says."

CFC need to open the yellow pages.

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18 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Talent? We are further away on talent than the above.

No chance you can look at Newcastle or Spuds or any of these usual midtable or lower sides that are above us currently and say they’re more talented than we are. I’d argue that if all our players were at their peak level we’d have the second most talented squad in the league after City. 

Arse have a bunch of players who everyone would’ve said are bang average prior to this season. Everyone was saying United’s team were all bang average as recently as a few months ago when they got off to that dreadful start. 

What these clubs have that we don’t right now is completely buy-in to the manager from their players. 

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18 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Our medical departement was shit for years. There is a reason why these guys got fired. Bc the injury situation was bad even before Boehly took over. There is a reason why fans are crying for Eva to come back for years. You can are argue about the replacements, but the injury situation didnt start with Boehly. 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63052165

"The Premier League suffered the most injuries to players across the top five leagues in European football last season, new data shows. Of 1,231 injuries to Premier League players, Chelsea were the club hit by the most, with 97, the research says."

Fair enough. Still it is amazing how quickly it has gone from bad to worse. Eva has a sketchy reputation herself btw

Yet, there are plenty of great physios and orthopedics out there. Boehly himself has employed some at the dodgers and lakers... why did we still hire those common cold quacks?

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10 minutes ago, Pizy said:

No chance you can look at Newcastle or Spuds or any of these usual midtable or lower sides that are above us currently and say they’re more talented than we are. I’d argue that if all our players were at their peak level we’d have the second most talented squad in the league after City. 

Arse have a bunch of players who everyone would’ve said are bang average prior to this season. Everyone was saying United’s team were all bang average as recently as a few months ago when they got off to that dreadful start. 

What these clubs have that we don’t right now is completely buy-in to the manager from their players. 

Now we are bang average.

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