The English Football Thread

[Pizy 18,538]

Probably means if United are to make a change it won’t be until the season is over. They’re stuck with him for good now that the only world class replacement is off the table.

It also probably means that if Ole does go at season’s end they’ll either hope Pochettino is gone from PSG or they’ll target one of the two hot property British managers in Rodgers or Potter. To be honest I think Rodgers would be a smart longer term hire.

Either way United will have the weakest, least accomplished manager BY FAR of the top clubs for the foreseeable future. 

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Probably means if United are to make a change it won’t be until the season is over. They’re stuck with him for good now that the only world class replacement is off the table.

It also probably means that if Ole does go at season’s end they’ll either hope Pochettino is gone from PSG or they’ll target one of the two hot property British managers in Rodgers or Potter. To be honest I think Rodgers would be a smart longer term hire.

Either way United will have the weakest, least accomplished manager BY FAR of the top clubs for the foreseeable future. 

At this rate, Solskjaer is gonna outlast every other manager in the league. 

[NikkiCFC 8,089]

Surprised Conte accepted this. His standards are highest and Spurs are nowhere near that. 

[different level 1,056]

6 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Regarding Conte, he went to his beloved clubs major rivals so he was never going to spare us if the chance came along. 

This. I never expected him to turn down a Premier League club because of his Chelsea connections, especially since his reign here ended in a bitter taste with a lawsuit. Then again it's a still bit disappointing seeing him on the verge of signing for Spurs.

[Pizy 18,538]

3 minutes ago, Jase said:

At this rate, Solskjaer is gonna outlast every other manager in the league. 

United club hierarchy absolutely love him because he’s a smiling Yes Man who they have total control over. He won’t ever criticize them, he won’t ever act out, he won’t ever make them look bad if transfers don’t go his way.

This is clearly why they were terrified of bringing Conte in. He’s too much of an alpha male for them and would kill them if he didn’t get his way.

After LvG and Mourinho (who are both also alpha male, dominant personalities) burned them they’re scared of that sort of manager again. Potter or Rodgers would be similar to Ole. Two managers taking a gigantic step up and just happy to be there.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,559]

The Glazers like selling merchandise. They stay away from anything that could hurt those t-shit sales. 

[LAM09 6,849]

It seems odd that Conte & Levy couldn't come to an agreement over the summer but have miraculously come to one now. 

Either way, we all know that if he does actually join them, it won't last long. 

[Tomo 21,740]

6 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

It seems odd that Conte & Levy couldn't come to an agreement over the summer but have miraculously come to one now. 

Either way, we all know that if he does actually join them, it won't last long. 

My educated guess is the hostile atmosphere on Saturday has forced Levy's hand, they've made it clear they're at the end of their tether with him so he's panicked and meet Conte half way (possibly more).

[Pizy 18,538]

25 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

It seems odd that Conte & Levy couldn't come to an agreement over the summer but have miraculously come to one now. 

Either way, we all know that if he does actually join them, it won't last long. 

Didn’t things with Conte fall apart in the summer over him wanting to bring in his huge coaching staff? Guess Levy is desperate enough now to give in to his demands.

[Blue Armour 4,336]

33 minutes ago, Tomo said:

My educated guess is the hostile atmosphere on Saturday has forced Levy's hand, they've made it clear they're at the end of their tether with him so he's panicked and meet Conte half way (possibly more).

How you think it will go for Conte & Spurs? Make them an easy top 4 contender again?

[Tomo 21,740]

12 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

How you think it will go for Conte & Spurs? Make them an easy top 4 contender again?

He will certainly have them there or there abouts once again (unless the masks comes off before the success this time).

Difficult to gauge how good his peak will be on this occasion, if he inherited their 2017 side I'd be seriously worried but with the current squad and Levy's backing (even if he heavily backs Conte for Spurs' standard it still won't be enough to compete with what other clubs can put on the table) I think the title will be a big ask even for him.

From our perspective he's certainly better of at Spurs than United, I reckon he could have got the latter seriously challenging immediately.

Edited November 1, 2021 by Tomo

[LAM09 6,849]

42 minutes ago, Tomo said:

My educated guess is the hostile atmosphere on Saturday has forced Levy's hand, they've made it clear they're at the end of their tether with him so he's panicked and meet Conte half way (possibly more).

That's probably the case. He needlessly threw money down the drain by appointing Nuno, and in the end, he's given into Conte's demands and made things worse for him/the club.

24 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Didn’t things with Conte fall apart in the summer over him wanting to bring in his huge coaching staff? Guess Levy is desperate enough now to give in to his demands.

I not sure about that. Possibly the case, but I'm sure he'll want a decent size transfer budget as well, which raises questions considering they spent a fair chunk a number of months ago. 

[Jase 43,479]

8 minutes ago, Tomo said:

He will certainly have them there or there abouts once again (unless the masks comes off before the success this time).

Difficult to gauge how good his peak will be on this occasion, if he inherited their 2017 side I'd be seriously worried but with the current squad and Levy's backing (even if he heavily backs Conte for Spurs' standard it still won't be enough to compete with what other clubs can put on the table) I think the title will be a big ask even for him.

From our perspective he's certainly better of at Spurs than United, I reckon he could have got the latter seriously challenging immediately.

Not to discredit his title wins (including ours) but I wonder how long, if at all, will he take to make Spurs challenge for the title?

When he won the 3 Serie A titles at Juventus, the league was somewhat in the doldrums without any credible challenges from the other side apart from maybe AC Milan and Roma.

When he won the Premier League with us, Guardiola and Klopp were still getting to terms with the league. Granted, Conte adapted the fastest and kudos to him for that but once the other two got up to speed, especially Guardiola, Conte couldn't really keep up with the challenge. Maybe that wasn't helped as well by Conte being a drama queen in his second season.

Then at Inter, okay, he got them close in his first season and managed to win the Serie A in his second campaign but it took an ailing/falling Juventus side for that to happen. 

So, I just wonder whether he can keep up the challenge with us, City and/or Liverpool if we're all at our peak. 

[Fulham Broadway 16,987]

The Sp*rs job is too big for Conte, they need a man like Allardyce, a true Tottenham manager if ever there was one

[ZAPHOD2319 4,559]

 

[Fulham Broadway 16,987]

''If we sign Jose we will be challenging for the league" "If we sack Jose and get Conte we will be challenging for the league" "if we get Nuno for 17 games then sack him, then get Conte we Will be challenging for the league". At what stage do they accept that it's Levy and his policies that are the problem ?

[Warning_Hazard 156]

41 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

''If we sign Jose we will be challenging for the league" "If we sack Jose and get Conte we will be challenging for the league" "if we get Nuno for 17 games then sack him, then get Conte we Will be challenging for the league". At what stage do they accept that it's Levy and his policies that are the problem ?

Hopefully never!

[Warning_Hazard 156]

Personally think conte to spurs could well be another disaster.

Conte throws the toys out as soon as he gets told no by boards (just like at the bridge)

Can people honestly see conte working with fookin levy?

Be interesting to watch but def has an air of inevatability about it