The English Football Thread

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33 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Spurs has been done for some time now, no way in hell was Ryan gonna somehow save their season by getting top 4. A huge rebuild is needed.

Some new players for sure, but not a huge rebuild.

Ali is showing a few signs of life here and there. If the new manager can get him ticking  again ( look at the huge difference to Rudi since TT arrived) and Bale gets fitter, they'd have have enough creativity and goals. Obviously need to keep Kane and Son though.

They are just desperately short of quality defenders and look like conceeding every game. There's also the age old problem of them being mentally weak when the crunch time really comes. Even Jose showed no signs of being able to fix that.

 

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20 hours ago, Stats said:

This is why I was angry when United and Liverpool was postponed. That timing was suitable for us and they put out their strongest available team. Even if they do the same on Thursday, they will be fatigued.

Apparently, West Brom didn't want to move that fixture. Hence, Man United v Liverpool got slapped onto that Thursday.

Solskjaer already came out and said that he will rotate his squad and may end upsetting a few teams with his selection. I assume he will rotate heavily against Leicester and play his strongest XI against Liverpool, for obvious reasons.

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33 minutes ago, chippy said:

Some new players for sure, but not a huge rebuild.

Ali is showing a few signs of life here and there. If the new manager can get him ticking  again ( look at the huge difference to Rudi since TT arrived) and Bale gets fitter, they'd have have enough creativity and goals. Obviously need to keep Kane and Son though.

They are just desperately short of quality defenders and look like conceeding every game. There's also the age old problem of them being mentally weak when the crunch time really comes. Even Jose showed no signs of being able to fix that.

 

They are shit up the creek mate, too many past it players, lack of quality etc. They really need a big rebuild. Lets see which name comes in as manager, cuz so far several managers have declined......maybe Sarii

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I didn't expect Utd to take something from Liverpool anyway. They played in Rome just 2 and a half days before previously scheduled fixture. So not much difference. 

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2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

I didn't expect Utd to take something from Liverpool anyway. They played in Rome just 2 and a half days before previously scheduled fixture. So not much difference. 

Worth noting that Klopp has never won at Old Trafford. 

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2020-21 English Premier League

Liverpool               
Southampton       

http://www.sportnews.to/mysports/2021/premier-league-liverpool-vs-southampton-s1/

https://www.totalsportek.com/page-5/

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no Ings, fuck

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Southampton miss a sitter and Liverpool score at the other end

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2 minutes ago, Strike said:

Southampton miss a sitter and Liverpool score at the other end

Story of their respective seasons 

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United have missed out on a proposed new training kit deal worth £200m over 10 years after the Manchester-based company The Hut Group had concerns about the supporters’ campaign to boycott the club’s commercial partners in protest at the Glazers’ ownership

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6 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

United have missed out on a proposed new training kit deal worth £200m over 10 years after the Manchester-based company The Hut Group had concerns about the supporters’ campaign to boycott the club’s commercial partners in protest at the Glazers’ ownership

lol, The Hut Co ships a tonne of our clothing, etc we buy online from the UK

they just sent this

Edited May 9, 2021 by Vesper

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Photograph: Tom Jenkins/The Guardian Emma Hayes has paid tribute to Chelsea’s approach for helping her team within touching distance of WSL and Women’s Big Cup glory. “This is the most special club in the world because of both its diversity and its togetherness as a whole,” she cheered. “It’s one club. That’s just the DNA of this place – and it breeds winning.” And Gary Lineker’s posts on Social Media Disgrace Twitter about the dismal state of politics could help him avoid a £4.9m tax bill, as part of a continuing dispute about whether he should be classed as a freelance worker for the BBC and BT Sport. STILL WANT MORE? Ten things to look out for in the Premier League this weekend, including a Big Cup final dress rehearsal, a bogey team and David Moyes looking to smash Everton with his Hammers. Chelsea and Manchester City deserve their places in Big Cup final, but let’s not forget the huge amount of £££££££s that have helped them get there, writes Barney Ronay. 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Friday May 7 2021 Football Nerd

Tired legs, less pressing and dodgy goalkeepers: Why Southampton are enduring a miserable 2021 By Daniel Zeqiri Southampton were one of the Premier League's success stories before Christmas, but things have taken a sharp turn for the worse for Ralph Hasenhuttl's team in 2021. No team has won fewer Premier League points since the turn of the year with Southampton losing 13 of their last 18 and conceding a league-high 40 goals in 2021. One reason for this decline is the physical demands of Hasenhuttl's football in a hectic season. Southampton's small squad has been stretched by injuries and the numbers suggest the intensity of their pressing has tailed off. As was the case last season, their goalkeepers have been among the league's worst performers, conceding more goals than the underlying numbers suggest they should. Hasenhuttl's stock has fallen but he remains an excellent coach. In this week's Football Nerd, I explore the numbers in search of explanations for Southampton's poor form.   The best of this week's coverage Jason Burt: Appointing Mikel Arteta was a mistake - but will Arsenal's owners sack him? Arsenal post-mortem: Sam Dean analyses in detail how Arteta could fix his broken team The making of Ruben Dias: Former coach and the scout who spotted him speak about Man City's defensive rock Exclusive news: Super League rebels will be fined substantially by Premier League Fabulous Foden: City man's balletic dribbles are the closest thing English football has to Lionel Messi 'Should he lead this Manchester City team to Champions League victory in 2021, it will rank as his greatest coaching achievement so far.'   Jamie Carragher column: This team is the fulfilment of Pep Guardiola's vision     This week's best stat   11 Number of Chelsea clean sheets in Thomas Tuchel's first 15 Premier League games. No manager has more in their first 15 games in the competition's history.     The week in a picture   No laughing matter: Spanish media turned on Real Madrid's Eden Hazard after he shared a joke with former Chelsea team-mates.

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2020-21 English Premier League

Aston Villa                 
Manchester United   

http://www.sportnews.to/sports/2021/premier-league-aston-villa-vs-manchester-united-s1/

https://www.totalsportek.com/page-3/

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1 nil Villa

agent Traore

[NikkiCFC 8,112]

At this point we can end up 2nd... Utd can lose 3 games in 5 days.

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4 hours ago, Vesper said:

lol, The Hut Co ships a tonne of our clothing, etc we buy online from the UK

they just sent this

Very influencing 😘

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8 times over the years Villa have led this fixture at HT

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8 times theyve thrown it away😲