Vesper 30,224 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, Pizy said: Saw some Italian football journo on Twitter say Juve couldn't afford him. Probably do what all these cheap ass Italian clubs do and try to pay in installments I guess. do we really want the clown car that is the whole Pogba entourage here? it will disrupt the delicate team chemistry IMHO LAM09 and 11Drogba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, Pizy said: Offer them Jorginho + cash for Pogba. Recreate the France NT midfield duo with Havertz or Kova in front of them. 😅 Pogba in a proper midfield setup (instead of next to donkey's like Fred and McTominay or a slow as a cruise ship Matic) and he's a world class player. HELL. NO. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just seen Arsenal's position in the table Vesper and Laylabelle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,118 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 59 minutes ago, Special Juan said: He's shite Most def....1 wonder goal every 2 seasons does not mean your WC 53 minutes ago, Pizy said: Offer them Jorginho + cash for Pogba. Recreate the France NT midfield duo with Havertz or Kova in front of them. 😅 Pogba in a proper midfield setup (instead of next to donkey's like Fred and McTominay or a slow as a cruise ship Matic) and he's a world class player. Never gonna happen Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Just seen Arsenal's position in the table it's a glorious thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Moncler buys Stone Island for $1.4 billion The deal is expected to close by the first half of 2021. While the two Italian brands will remain separate entities, the acquisition will see them share information on how to best capture the American and Asian markets. They will also amplify their direct-to-consumer channels for the new luxury customer and push further into sustainability. We called up Moncler’s CEO and Chairman, Remo Ruffini, to ask him what it was that attracted him to Stone Island, and what’s next for the brand. https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/moncler-remo-ruffini-acquire-stone-island-interview/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2020-21 English Premier League Brighton & Hove Albion Southampton http://www.sportnews.to/sports/2020/premier-league-brighton-hove-albion-vs-southampton-s1/ https://www.totalsportek.com/southampton/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Ben White starts at DMF Tariq Lamptey starts at RWB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 9 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: It is not the same. Spurs are underdogs. Basically for starting 11 they got just two new players Reguilon and Hojbjerg. If Mou wins it with them it would be story similar to Conte winning season with us. Neutral fans love stories like that. Also if he wins major trophy with Spurs that would go on top3 list in his career with what he did in Inter and Porto. And all of that have much more value than whatever Pep and Zidane did in their careers because it is huge overachievement. We'll see. You have a point, and I've seen some fans claim this, but I think a lot of people jumped on the wagon after their win over Pep and city. I'll give credit to JM and Spurs for coming through relatively unscathed, after a tough list of fixtures in the PL in the past 3 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 19 hours ago, communicate said: What we did was we kinda asked our fb especially Chilwell to play conservative. So son like his goal against arsenal, won't play one on one against cb. It f*** up our offense also though because Werner can't play without support. It was expected that at any time, one of our fullbacks would have to hang back to watch their runners. Shame that we didn't have Pulisic fully fit to start the game. I feel his play could have helped unlock their defense even without full-backs supporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 16 hours ago, petre.ispirescu said: Listen, I simply cannot understand why there is 'Spurs are going to win the title' vibes around and people are truly afraid they might go all the way. I mean ok maybe Mourinho might have done it this way in the past, but not when he's had that many quality, and I mean really, really good teams that are challenging, too. For me Liverpool and City are nailed on to go head to head for the league title again and are the two main candidates. Not the sole ones, but still easily the two best teams around, then there is Chelsea and it might sound funny but United will go deep, too IMHO and the thing is that all this four teams have better attacking players than Spurs. You might think Spurs will park the bus v the big teams like they truly did v us, City and Arsenal, but they did not look that good v Burnley, West Brom and Brighton either, three wins in which they shot less than 8 or 9 shots on goal combined. In three matches... It's like a honeymoon period for them now and Kane looks like he's playing the Kante role now. They will fall apart as soon as they go on a winless streak and Mourinho starts blaming someone, anyone. In his mind they are now first because of him, soon Son or somebody else is going to be at fault for not tracking back on Ola Aina. On another note happy for Arsenal's brilliant title challenge yet again, fuck that obnoxious and deluded fan base. Good point. Looking back at Mourinho's PL title wins, there were not many teams in contention for the title race. Also, despite this being December, we are only 11 games in., meaning another 3/4 of the season to go. Therefore, even their current position at the top doesn't mean much. And speaking of fixture lists, any idea why some teams still have a game in hand without any official dates announced for these? You would expect them to play before the midway point in order to preserve the integrity of the competion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,118 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Blue Armour said: in order to preserve the integrity of the competion. No such thing as integrity in EPL, we are witnessing it game by game now, integrity went out the window long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 20 hours ago, Jason said: As someone pointed here out yesterday, you would think Spurs are 10 points clear at the top instead of just 2 with the way people are going on about them. Yes, they are getting the results and all that but it's only 11 games in and Liverpool, who of course are the champions, are level on points with them. On the other hand, it's funny to see everyone's darling last season Liverpool barely getting any love in the title race so far this season, despite being joint-top. This. Liverpool with so many injuries are joint top. No other team is going into games vs Leicester and Wolves and dominating in the manner Liverpool are at the moment and it is a surprise that they are hardly mentioned in the context of the title race. I think they are on course for around a 80-90-point haul and I can't see Spurs or Chelsea keeping up all the way. I think the media is just happy that the league is still open in December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 14 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: This were the odds before the season by bookmakers: Premier League outright odds 2020/21 4/5 - Man City 15/8 - Liverpool 10/1 - Chelsea 14/1 - Man Utd 33/1 - Arsenal 50/1 - Tottenham Just going back to that, as you mentioned, that is before the season (how are Arsenal even ahead of Spurs!?). The latest odds are now this... Liverpool - 7/4 Man City - 7/4 Chelsea - 11/2 Spurs - 11/2 Man United - 18/1 Arsenal - 250/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,336 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Jason said: (how are Arsenal even ahead of Spurs!?). They signed world class player Willian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: They signed world class player, better than Ziyech and Havertz, Willian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,118 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Scumbag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Paul Pogba and comments timed to cause maximum disruption Sign up now! Sign up now! Sign up now? Sign up now! ‘Seriously Marcos, do you know how a toaster works yet?’ Photograph: Matthew Peters/Manchester United/Getty Images Barry Glendenning @bglendenning LESS THAN UNITED On any other day, news that Paul Pogba is apparently dissatisfied with life at Manchester United, has no intention of signing a new contract with the club and would like to leave as soon as possible would be greeted by whoops of delight, high fives and offers of lifts to the airport from Ole Gunnar Solskjær, assorted teammates, numerous members of the club hierarchy and tens of thousands of season-ticket holders. However, emerging as it did on the eve of a crunch Big Cup group match in Germany from which Ole and his brave boys need to take a point or go out, Manchester United have taken an understandably dim view of Mina Raiola’s interview with Tuttosport in which Pogba’s Mr 20% said his client wants a move. “Paul at Manchester United is unhappy,” sniffed Raiola. “He would no longer able to express himself as he would like and is expected of him. He has to change teams, he has to change the air. He has a contract that will expire in a year and a half, but I believe the best solution for the parties is to sell in the next market.” Raiola’s comments were timed to cause maximum disruption, coming to light at around the time Pogba and his colleagues would have been sitting down to dinner in their team hotel before Tuesday’s match against RB Leipzig. If nothing else, they will have at least prompted some interesting dinner chat. Paul Pogba's agent says player wants to leave Manchester United in January Read more The presumption now is that Pogba will not feature, not that he was likely to anyway considering United need a result and he’s about as reliable as the imminent tsunami of spurious transfer tittle-tattle that will link him with moves to Real Madrid, Paris Saint-Germain or a return to Juventus. “Get rid,” huffed Jamie Carragher on Sky Sports, upon being asked what United should do with their recalcitrant midfielder, who has pointedly not used any of his social media disgrace platforms to deny the claims. “I’ve been saying this for 12 months. Oh my god, he is the most overrated player I’ve ever seen in my life.” While United would almost certainly love to “get rid” of a player who happily trousers but rarely earns the £300,000 a week he gets from the club, finding anyone to take him off their hands for anywhere near the £89m they paid for him four years ago could prove tricky. The few clubs that can afford him may prefer to keep their powder dry for such time as the contract of a similarly expensive and disgruntled, but much better and more reliable big-name target runs out at Barcelona next summer. For now, United have more important things to worry about, but can take heart from the 5-0 gubbing they dished out to their opponents in October. Pogba played for 81 minutes of that particular game and even set up a goal, but after his boorish mouthpiece’s latest headline-grabbing antics, it will be a surprise if this unhappy camper gets to muddy his spats on the grass of the Red Bull Arena for even a single second. LIVE ON BIG WEBSITE! Join Paul Doyle from 8pm for hot MBM coverage of RB Leipzig 2-2 Manchester United, while Ben Fisher will be clockwatching the rest of Tuesday’s action. QUOTE OF THE DAY “I should have played more. Honestly, I don’t understand why I have not. I have done well every time the coach has called on me. I don’t know what else I can do. I cannot be satisfied and I’m not. I’ve never accepted the idea of not playing and I’m not going to now. It’s a very delicate situation and I don’t like it” – Miralem Pjanic is the latest happy punter at Camp Koe. Oh Ronald! RECOMMENDED LOOKING David Squires on … the booing of footballers taking a knee. It’s particularly good. It really is. Illustration: David Squires/The Guardian FIVER LETTERS “Arsenal supporters, it has been two years of further regression. Maybe the club’s problem wasn’t Arsène Wenger?” – JJ Zucal. “John Burridge is not the only petrolhead who has been psychologically scarred by the presence of uninvited waste products in their headwear (yesterday’s News, Bits and Bobs). Jeremy Clarkson apparently endured a similar experience which could help explain the genesis of the beloved epithet ‘Dirty’ Leeds” – Allastair McGillivray. “So, according to Neil Warnock, Stoke like to give visiting players stinky changing rooms (yesterday’s last line), An interesting move, but it may backfire. Years ago, the NBA’s Dallas Mavericks made a point of upgrading the visitors’ facilities. Posh towels, spacious lockers, toilets that flushed – the whole package. Why? Because it helped the club to recruit players when they became free agents. Perhaps Stoke’s management believes they are an attractive enough proposition without such gimmickry” – Mike Wilner. “Ed Taylor (yesterday’s Fiver letters) has brought up a wider philosophical question that may be answered when one-goal Joelinton squares up against a Baggies defence that has shipped 23 goals in 11 matches: what happens when a stoppable force meets a moveable object?” – Matt Richman. “Re: Capone and Fabinho being Untouchables (yesterday’s News, Bits and Bobs). I’m sure you’ll get the hallowed number of replies on this, but it was the team of agents hunting down Scarface that were untouchable, not Capone” – Matt Atkinson (and 1,056 others). Send your letters to [email protected]. And you can always tweet The Fiver via @guardian_sport. Today’s winner of our prizeless letter o’the day prize is … Allastair McGillivray. RECOMMENDED SHOPPING Available at our print shop now, Tom Jenkins’s pictures of the past decade. There’s also this Gazza picture there too. NEWS, BITS AND BOBS In a boost for free agent $exually Repressed Morris Dancing Fiver’s hopes of making the Euros, Gareth Southgate reckons a hectic Premier League schedule will lead to knacked England players next summer. “It’s very difficult to have a successful national team and the strongest league,” he sighed, fresh off a series of international friendlies. There was a World Cup draw too, but we got distracted by those giant underpants in the middle. Photograph: foto-net/Kurt Schorrer/EPA Newcastle might be able to play out a drab draw with West Brom now their training ground is open again after a Covid outbreak. Leeds defender Robin Koch will face a spell on the sidelines after undergoing surgery on the knee-knack sustained against Chelsea. Like George Benson and Whitney Houston before him, Jürgen Klopp believes the children are our future. “You still need the right kids, the right players,” he crooned, praising the youngsters who have stepped up during Liverpool’s knack-crisis. “Without them we would have been lost. Thank God it worked out.” Some Manchester City news. And in a blow for Barnsley fireworks shops, Mario Balotelli has joined Serie B side Monza. STILL WANT MORE? Our annual countdown of the top 100 female footballers in the world begins with Nos 71-100. Here. We. Go. Illustration: Guardian Design Booing those who take a knee is an act of violent disrespect, writes Barney Ronay. Jonathan Liew on the increasingly beleaguered art of crossing. Leipzig’s Dani Olmo and Juan Mata of Manchester United get their chat on together on Zoom. Liverpool’s relentlessness is ominously back, warns floating footballing brain in a jar Jonathan Wilson. 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NikkiCFC 8,336 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Does London going possibly tiar 3 means no fans again? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Does London going possibly tiar 3 means no fans again? no fans the little clubs will be fucked so hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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