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3 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

How can he be offside if he doesn't touch it and is also on the floor and he cannot be blocking the keepers view.

Its called having an agenda, corruption has gone amok in epl. This fucking League aint worth winning.

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At this point we should just start hoping more and more that City's ban is held in place for at least 1 of the 2 years they got so that 5th place gets into the CL. Because we're almost surely going to be limping along for the rest of the season. One match we'll look great and the next we'll be shocking. Same could be said about everyone else, though.

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1 minute ago, Special Juan said:

How can he be offside if he doesn't touch it and is also on the floor and he cannot be blocking the keepers view.

it is called passive offside ie. impedance by placement and action

BUT

it was neither

as if you remove Sigurdsson completely, the same thing would have happened

Sigurdsson did NOT affect De Gea's movement to De Gea's RIGHT (the deflection took it to his left)

Sigurdsson have NOTHING to do with De Gea being wrong-footed

that came 100% from the Maguire deflection

the call was 100% wrong

it was a pure theft by Jon Moss for Manure

horrid call

absolutely outrageous gift yet again to manure

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

it is called passive offside ie. impedance by placement and action

BUT

it was neither

as if you remove Sigurdsson completely, the same thing would have happened

Sigurdsson did NOT affect De Gea's movement to De Gea's RIGHT (the deflection took it to his left)

Sigurdsson have NOTHING to do with De Gea being wrong-footed

that came 100% from the Maguire deflection

the call was 100% wrong

it was a pure theft by Jon Moss for Manure

horrid call

absolutely outrageous gift yet again to manure

So the passive offside based on your explanation means nothing?

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

it is called passive offside ie. impedance by placement and action

BUT

it was neither

as if you remove Sigurdsson completely, the same thing would have happened

Sigurdsson did NOT affect De Gea's movement to De Gea's RIGHT (the deflection took it to his left)

Sigurdsson have NOTHING to do with De Gea being wrong-footed

that came 100% from the Maguire deflection

the call was 100% wrong

it was a pure theft by Jon Moss for Manure

horrid call

absolutely outrageous gift yet again to manure

You can see that, we can see that, yet so called Expert refs with the help of monitors cant? And they still get to ref all season? Its a bent League with a bent system put in place.

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Just now, Special Juan said:

So the passive offside based on your explanation means nothing?

you can be passively office, IF your placement and/or action affects the opposing players movement

in this case IT DID NOT AT ALL

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3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I believe the ruling is only if Maguire made an attempt to play the ball, he would’ve been onside. Since it was a deflection, and obstructed the keepers view, its right called off imo

you are misreading the rule and the situation

Sigurdson did not affect De gea moving to his (DG) right

the deflection made the goal unstoppable when Sigurdsson was there or not

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