The English Football Thread

[LAM09 6,839]

But we all know Daniel Levy is not a big spender and that doesn't go down well with Mourinho. Arsenal are certainly more inclined to spend than Spurs. Think Pochettino is the safest because of the credit he has built and he signed a new contract not too long, IIRC.

We used to say the same about Arsenal and look at them in recent years. Not to mention the fact that Spurs are in a much better place to compete.

All the big clubs will have to spend big summer on summer to remain competitive, so I'd expect Levy to build on the previous window.

[Vesper 29,196]

31 minutes ago, Jason said:

I would be surprised. The fella is desperate to be back in a job. 

my fear is him at Spuds next year

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Just now, LAM09 said:

We used to say the same about Arsenal and look at them in recent years. Not to mention the fact that Spurs are in a much better place to compete.

All the big clubs will have to spend big summer on summer to remain competitive, so I'd expect Levy to build on the previous window.

Levy willing to spend is one thing but how big he is willing to spend is another. For all we know, their transfer budget could be just 100 million.

It's hard to tell what Levy wants. I know Spurs have just gotten their new stadium etc but he just seems very content of being competitive and not bothered about winning trophies at all. 

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Just now, Vesper said:

my fear is him at Spuds

I don't think he'll go to Spurs. More likely Allegri will turn up there than Mourinho. 

[LAM09 6,839]

Levy willing to spend is one thing but how big he is willing to spend is another. For all we know, their transfer budget could be just 100 million.
It's hard to tell what Levy wants. I know Spurs have just gotten their new stadium etc but he just seems very content of being competitive and not bothered about winning trophies at all. 

I guess we'll find out. If Spurs' run of poor form continues (no away league win in 2019 IIRC), the bigger names might look to do a Bale.

Levy will then have a decision to make.

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Just now, LAM09 said:

I guess we'll find out. If Spurs' run of poor form continues (no away league win in 2019 IIRC), the bigger names might look to do a Bale.

Think they will do it regardless. Eriksen, Alderweireld, Vertonghen look to be heading out already. Spurs just do not have enough quality players to bridge the gap with Liverpool and Man City. 

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Think they will do it regardless. Eriksen, Alderweireld, Vertonghen look to be heading out already. Spurs just do not have enough quality players to bridge the gap with Liverpool and Man City. 

Both CB's you mentioned are getting on and Eriksen isn't exactly exciting to potential suitors this year.

 

 

Kane/Son would be two that would signal warning signs.

 

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Just now, LAM09 said:

Both CB's you mentioned are getting on and Eriksen isn't exactly exciting to potential suitors this year.

But they are arguably the best players at Spurs in their respective position. Take them out and they're left with almost nothing.

1 minute ago, LAM09 said:

I think Kane/Son would be two that would signal warning signs.

Think Kane might pull the trigger soon. He does seem to have an ambition of wanting to win trophies and he turns 27 next year. Not a big window left for him.

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18 minutes ago, Jason said:

Levy willing to spend is one thing but how big he is willing to spend is another. For all we know, their transfer budget could be just 100 million.

It's hard to tell what Levy wants. I know Spurs have just gotten their new stadium etc but he just seems very content of being competitive and not bothered about winning trophies at all. 

Depends on IF he cashes in on Kane

Kane turns 27 in the summer, so next window is the last truly HUGE cash in he can get, as you would still get 4 or 5 years peak out of him

Spuds need a LOT of work, they have let players go stale and old and out of contract

at a minimum, they need 2 CB's, as they lose the ageing Jan Vertonghen and not only need to replace him, but add a far better one as well on top of that

and replace basically all their fullbacks and backups (they can slide with Rose as a backup, so call it 3) OR wise the fuck up and play Sessegnon, where I would, at LB, so then they just ned a RB and a RB backup (Aurier is DOGSHIT, I would not swap Alonso for him) Kyle Walker-Peters turns 24 next season and has shown me nothing

Sissoko is done next year at MF

Dier is dogshit

Wanyama is dogshit

Winks is so overrated,

Skipp shows me nothing so far

they lose Eriksen so needs a WC AMF

Alli is amongst the most overrated players on the planet

and their wingers bore me

Son can play CF

and they have 2 decent MFers in Lo Celso and Ndombele

they fucked up horridly not selling Eriksen this last summer

now the only way to fund is to sell Kane and a lot of the dregs

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Vesper said:

Depends on IF he cashes in on Kane

Kane turns 27 in the summer, so next window is the last truly HIGE cash in he can get, as you would still get 4 or 5 years peak out of him

We should try putting in a cheeky bid for Kane. 

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Just now, Jason said:

We should try putting in a cheeky bid for Kane. 

he wouldn't come here, and for his age, not worth it

I think IF we are going to drop that level of money on one player

go full billy big bollocks and buy MBAPPE, as he would be only 50 to 100m more

and at that level, who cares

we have shit away (when the books are closed soon say after next summer or the summer of 2021) close to £250-300m in just lost  sale valuations starting from bad decisions starting in 2016-7

and that does NOT count bad bad buys and salaries

 

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17 minutes ago, Jason said:

We should try putting in a cheeky bid for Kane. 

replying again (riffing off my first reply)

I am quite content to not buy Mbappe as it is the ultimate pipe dream (I would fucking go for it, but I am not a billionaire club owner, wish I was)

I laid out a VERY detailed and reasoned case on who to buy, how much money we have, and what it will cost (and even swallowed my pride and gave scenarios where we keep Zouma)

this is a really good post, refinement of a lot of work

and here I immediately dealt with RB

 

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Tottenham fans cheer Sheffield United supporters' voiced VAR gripes

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/tottenham-hotspur/story/3985997/tottenham-fans-cheer-sheffield-united-supporters-voiced-var-gripes

Such is the disquiet with VAR that Tottenham Hotspur fans gave their Sheffield United counterparts a round of applause when the visiting supporters loudly vented their frustration at the technology on Saturday.

The Video Assistant Referee system had helped preserve the lead Son Heung-Min gave Tottenham in the 58th minute. But few in the ground could understand why David McGoldrick's equaliser minutes later had been disallowed.

It seemed a clear-cut goal when Sheffield's McGoldrick tapped home Enda Stevens's cross -- but when referee Graham Scott put his finger to his ear, the visiting fans' celebrations were put on hold.

Nearly four minutes later, the goal was ruled out, apparently because during the build-up John Lundstram's big toe had been offside by half the width of a shoelace, if that.

Had George Baldock's later equaliser, which also went to VAR, been ruled out too, it would have been an injustice for Chris Wilder's side, who were worth at least a 1-1 draw.

[Laylabelle 9,406]

I'm sorry but what?! His toe was offside lol!!! That's ridiculous. So if he had smaller feet he'd been onside. How is that a thing?! Managers complained about clear offside goals given not by a sodding mm or something 

The whole thing is ridiculous! 

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21 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

I'm sorry but what?! His toe was offside lol!!! That's ridiculous. So if he had smaller feet he'd been onside. How is that a thing?! Managers complained about clear offside goals given not by a sodding mm or something 

The whole thing is ridiculous! 

Dier's shoulder played his 'toe' onside. The presenters on all 3 networks I watched went on diatribes for ages, and also, apparently VAR did not have that angle.

It is all a falsely-legitimised match fixing scheme. 

it is OUTRAGEOUS that the on-field refs are being overruled and yet they refuse to look at the on-field monitor, and also outrageous that they do not to get ALL the angles.

It is destroying the game's integrity.

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11 hours ago, Laylabelle said:

I'm sorry but what?! His toe was offside lol!!! That's ridiculous. So if he had smaller feet he'd been onside. How is that a thing?! Managers complained about clear offside goals given not by a sodding mm or something 

The whole thing is ridiculous! 

Right now they are using computer to determine offside so it is too precise. I doubt that it is going to change this season but next season I think fans, player and coaches want computer to draw line on defender and let VAR official take look at it. If by naked eye it look offside, it is offside, if not then it is not. 

Penalty call imo is the weird part. I understand it is subjective, but some of them quite blatant

[Laylabelle 9,406]

Yeah it just seems really bizzare. 3 minutes to decide as well. Then a offside arm the other week... 

Then you have them come and say Brighton were wrongly awarded a penalty through VAR...