The English Football Thread

[Laylabelle 9,535]

Oh for piss sake

Come on City!!

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

De Gea starting at the end of last season, going through was the WC and for a couple months of thsi season was in a slump, so nope, I am sorry but not going to go on a DG wankfest. Kepa is the last of our worries, he is a great GK.

I never said he was a worry. Much like Jorginho and Kante in an advanced position 

He's a decent keeper who fits this system given his distribution. Kepa hasn't made any saves that really secured us points. Not once. How can a keeper be labeled 'great' or 'top class' when he has yet to do anything to justify it? A true top keeper would of saved that Sturridge strike and one of Martial's. 

 

[Vesper 30,175]

1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I never said he was a worry. Much like Jorginho and Kante in an advanced position 

He's a decent keeper who fits this system given his distribution. Kepa hasn't made any saves that really secured us points. Not once. How can a keeper be labeled 'great' or 'top class' when he has yet to do anything to justify it? A true top keeper would of saved that Sturridge strike and one of Martial's. 

 

Jorginho is a massive worry, sorry but he is.

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, MoroccanBlue said:

But its not just that, is it? It's his positioning and reflexes that continues to get United points season after season. 

Bizarre when people rate Kepa as top class when he has yet to do anything of such. 

Is it really good positioning though when opponents just shoot to where he's at? He's got good reflexes when having to save low with his feet/hands but shoot high to either side and then you've got problems with him.

As for Kepa, he's been solid overall for someone in his first season and if you look at some of the games earlier this season, he actually made some really good saves. People have praised him accordingly and don't think anyone is blowing the trumpet about being him world class yet. So, I'm not even sure why you're bringing Kepa out of the nowhere into the discussion.

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

City will win this comfortably. Relax guys. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

Is it really good positioning though when opponents just shoot to where he's at? He's got good reflexes when having to save low with his feet/hands but shoot high to either side and then you've got problems with him.

As for Kepa, he's been solid overall for someone in his first season and if you look at some of the games earlier this season, he actually made some really good saves. People have praised him accordingly and don't think anyone is blowing the trumpet about being him world class yet. So, I'm not even sure why you're bringing Kepa out of the nowhere into the discussion.

But it isn't just Leicester. It's Spurs away. Arsenal away. Liverpool at home. Season after season he's given United points. That is my point as that is what a top class keeper does. I've been on this forum for a week and believe me the words 'great keeper' and 'top class' has been thrown around for Kepa, which in my opinion is unjustified. That is why I brought up DeGea. He's a young decent keeper who fits the system. 

Also mad how you are so forgiving on Kepa given it is his first season yet have pitchforks for Sarri. 

[Laylabelle 9,535]

3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

City will win this comfortably. Relax guys. 

Fingers crossed. They've been so odd recently so hopefully... 

[Fulham Broadway 17,313]

Back in front now. Anything but the vile situation of the Dippers winning the league. Unthinkable.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

Typical City goal. So hard to defend with the movement. 

5 more please City

[Laylabelle 9,535]

3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Back in front now. Anything but the vile situation of the Dippers winning the league. Unthinkable.

Hopefully they can stay this time... 

It's gana happen just know it. Once done out the way but still it's the going on and on and on and on and on and on 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

38 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Its the old Ajax formation, like they used in the CL when they beat AC Milan. Cruyff used it at Barca too.

Pep doesn't have left back and he came up with this. Since our starting LB is shit I must wonder how would we look in this formation?  We definitely have players for it.  It will suite Azpi,  Kante and Jorginho more I think. 

[Vesper 30,175]

1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said:

Pep doesn't have left back and he came up with this. Since our starting LB is shit I must wonder how would we look in this formation?  We definitely have players for it.  It will suite Azpi,  Kante and Jorginho more I think. 

I am all for trying it but Sarri will never switch formations this year, probably not next year either, if he isn't sacked first.

[Pizy 18,907]

Look how City are totally targeting Arse's left flank. Bernardo in acres of space nearly every time he receives the ball. KDB occupying that little space between Bernardo and the outside of the box.

The thought of them having Bernardo out there in space against Alonso and KDB standing right on Luiz is already causing headaches. 

If we don't hugely  raise our game like we did last time we played them and like we did against Spuds last week I think it'll be ugly.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

6 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Look how City are totally targeting Arse's left flank. Bernardo in acres of space nearly every time he receives the ball. KDB occupying that little space between Bernardo and the outside of the box.

The thought of them having Bernardo out there in space against Alonso and KDB standing right on Luiz is already causing headaches. 

If we don't hugely  raise our game like we did last time we played them and like we did against Spuds last week I think it'll be ugly.

Agreed. Which is why Kovacic is a must Sunday. 

A week to prepare. Showing up not matching City's intensity will be unforgivable. 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

Damn every goal City scores looks the same. 

[Laylabelle 9,535]

Hopefully no way back now... 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said:

Damn every goal City scores looks the same. 

yup. tap ins galore, they attack the flanks in numbers, one of their quick players will be found by one of their great passers in the channel, ball across to agüero to tap in empty net. fairly obvious but hard to defend. We need to track back like hell vs them, better even shift back to back 3 ( lol obviously not gonna happen). arsneal , apart from the goals actually played it well in the firs thalf attacking and defending in numbers, But pep with his idea to have fernandinho in defence when not in poession and having him walk into midfield when in posession sussed that and eased their transition. I wish Jorginho was capable of that flexiblity too. 

Gündogan the little cheat, deserved yellow. 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

Denis Suarez is cute. 

[Pizy 18,907]

Still pains me every time I see De Bruyne play. The perfect midfielder. Probably the one player outside Chelsea in the PL that I'm genuinely jealous of.

[Jase 43,479]

22 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

But it isn't just Leicester. It's Spurs away. Arsenal away. Liverpool at home. Season after season he's given United points. That is my point as that is what a top class keeper does. I've been on this forum for a week and believe me the words 'great keeper' and 'top class' has been thrown around for Kepa, which in my opinion is unjustified. That is why I brought up DeGea. He's a young decent keeper who fits the system. 

Since you like comparing the two so much, have you forgotten how bad De Gea was when he first came to England (not that I'm implying or saying Kepa has been bad)? Sure, De Gea has done well overall for Man United all these years but the only reason why he has caught the eye so often is because United concede a lot of shots (a lot more than the other top sides), forcing De Gea to continuously make saves (some his own good work, some because of shit finishing). Is it really a good thing when your keeper has to make so many saves?

This league season alone, United have conceded 13.1 shots per game and De Gea has had to make 90 saves overall - second highest in the league. Us? 8.9 shots per game - third lowest in the league - and Kepa has made 52 saves - fifth lowest but more than Alisson and Ederson, keepers of the current top two sides. Kepa, Alisson, Ederson etc all do make good saves but they just don't get much attention because their team do not put them under pressure all the time. If your definition of a "top class" keeper is only about the saves one makes, then guess everyone except Fabianski, who has made the most saves this season, are bad?

58 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Also mad how you are so forgiving on Kepa given it is his first season yet have pitchforks for Sarri. 

Think majority are pretty happy with Kepa's performance so far. You're the only one who seems to be upset about Kepa because he hasn't made the saves you want him to make.