DazLaughlan 55 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Really really strong position but it's far to early to count chickens, the roof can cave in very quickly. Barbara, xPetrCechx and darrus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Basically there is a minor amount of people who think we won the title already and then there is a majority of them believing we will drop some points and they will catch up! These deluded slaves of oil should firstly stop dropping points themselves ?? They just know that they won't win shit this season but still struggle to acceptcourse we can drop points.anyone can take of anyone and if we do ourselves to blame if slip up enough to be caught up.Bloody better not but league been crazy so far.it's the Xmas period that can be costlyNewcastle doing pretty well after their start robdog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Von Doom 258 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Think we can top 95 points?Nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 To be fair Luiz went for 50m and Mangala went for ~40m wasn't it? So I guess valuations have gone bonkers. Like that other guy said, I think he is a decent defender but Liverpool have a terrible defense. Have him under Mourinho and I think he can be as good as Cahill and those are both laughable buys for the said sum. how much did benatia go for? value for money is hard to find in today's market but 20mil for lovren was just stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Think we can top 95 points?we haven't yet face soton, stoke, hammers and newcastle. so 3 point match after match is more important... darrus and guddy69 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 One game at a time kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeholiday 209 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Le Arse = Chokers of the highest order. Just hoping they do well enough not to fire wenger and not sell Sanchez to City. darrus, TheOneChan95 and Roquila 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 He hasn't actually had it easy. Barca he inherited a mess and turned it into one of the greatest teams off all time.That I can't dispute, though I didn't exactly include that in the argument in the first place. In Bayern, taking over a treble winning team doesn't make the job easier, if anything it makes it harder (look at Rafa with Inter), how do you motivate player's who have just won it all to not only go again but buy into new ideas?True but on the other hand, one could argue that Benitez did a bad job at motivating the players to go again and went about the task in the wrong manner. More crucially perhaps, most of the players in that Inter side was already over the hill or nearly there. Mourinho squeezed every ounce of quality left in that squad to win the treble before he left. Never mind just needing to motivate the players, you practically need to change their squad as well. Look where they are now since 2010.At Bayern, yes, it's not easy to motivate the players after they've won the treble but the thing is, all the players in the squad were still in their prime or heading there. They didn't have the situation like Inter did. So in that sense, Guardiola took over not just a winning team but one still in their prime. It's almost easy for him to just come in, get the players to continue going and remain on the trophy winning trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 What a mess. :lol: bababoom, NiclasCFC, Rambo and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 What a mess. :lol:I lost my shit when he pulled out his little arsenal water bottle....along with the arsenal headphones NiclasCFC and Term-X 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Is Wenger just tactically naive or pure stubborn? It's quite farcical how he didn't even bother to change anything when Chambers was having a nightmare all game against Montero. Why not at least shift Chambers to CB and put Monreal at RB?! The goal from Sigurdsson was an absolute beauty. Never thought he would manage to put that in, especially in the manner that he did. Stunning strike from a classy, underrated player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 That I can't dispute, though I didn't exactly include that in the argument in the first place.True but on the other hand, one could argue that Benitez did a bad job at motivating the players to go again and went about the task in the wrong manner. More crucially perhaps, most of the players in that Inter side was already over the hill or nearly there. Mourinho squeezed every ounce of quality left in that squad to win the treble before he left. Never mind just needing to motivate the players, you practically need to change their squad as well. Look where they are now since 2010.At Bayern, yes, it's not easy to motivate the players after they've won the treble but the thing is, all the players in the squad were still in their prime or heading there. They didn't have the situation like Inter did. So in that sense, Guardiola took over not just a winning team but one still in their prime. It's almost easy for him to just come in, get the players to continue going and remain on the trophy winning trail.Maybe my comparison with Inter was a bit far fetched for the reasons you gave however I do believe Pep had a real battle keeping the hunger levels up regardless off the stage in career his players were. Whether they mean to or not, players need a lot more motivation to win something again than they do the first time, especially straight after. Even as a supporter I can relate to that, I don't feel the same raw anxiety and desperation to win the CL now we've actually done it, I still desperately want to win it tho don't get me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholo 428 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Arsenal-mania still down I need something to laugh! RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Maybe my comparison with Inter was a bit far fetched for the reasons you gave however I do believe Pep had a real battle keeping the hunger levels up regardless off the stage in career his players were. Whether they mean to or not, players need a lot more motivation to win something again than they do the first time, especially straight after. Even as a supporter I can relate to that, I don't feel the same raw anxiety and desperation to win the CL now we've actually done it, I still desperately want to win it tho don't get me wrong. I can't really disagree with that but think what people want to see with Guardiola is him taking a struggling team to the very top, like say either one of the Milan teams right now. No doubt his achievements have their merits but it kinda help his cause a lot, if you like, when he had the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Messi at Barcelona (not that Messi has gone over the hill) and a winning, strong side like Bayern. He would gain a lot more credibility if he can rebuild a team like Inter/Milan. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Is Wenger just tactically naive or pure stubborn? It's quite farcical how he didn't even bother to change anything when Chambers was having a nightmare all game against Montero. Why not at least shift Chambers to CB and put Monreal at RB?! The goal from Sigurdsson was an absolute beauty. Never thought he would manage to put that in, especially in the manner that he did. Stunning strike from a classy underrated player.The game has caught up and overtook Wenger and he couldn't keep pace.Him managing in 2014 is the equivalent of Giggs still playing last season, both great years back, but trying to prolong a career that peaked out years ago.If Wenger cared about Arsenal above all else he would hold his hands up and say ive had my day and go upstairs, but luckily for us he's too stubborn for that. He can't even use the money excuse anymore after his recent spurlgles and what Simeone has achieved on less money than Wenger's ever had against more expensive squad's than Wenger's ever faced (domestically). Jase and Thendo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The game has caught up and overtook Wenger and he couldn't keep pace.Him managing in 2014 is the equivalent of Giggs still playing last season, both great years back, but trying to prolong a career that peaked out years ago.If Wenger cared about Arsenal above all else he would hold his hands up and say ive had my day and go upstairs, but luckily for us he's too stubborn for that. He can't even use the money excuse anymore after his recent spurlgles and what Simeone has achieved on less money than Wenger's ever had against more expensive squad's than Wenger's ever faced (domestically).Sometimes you can't help but to feel for the Arsenal fans to have such a pathetic manager in charge. I mean, how clueless or stubborn can one be?! It's almost like he's competing with Rodgers and Pellegrini to see who is the most tactically naive manager in England. Viper22 and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Spurs and Gooners lose, couldn't be any better than that on one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Sometimes you can't help but to feel for the Arsenal fans to have such a pathetic manager in charge. I mean, how clueless or stubborn can one be?! It's almost like he's competing with Rodgers and Pellegrini to see who is the most tactically naive manager in England.All I can add to that is I hope all 3 stay in their current posts for a very long time to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholo 428 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Mourinho would improve any side in the world and guarantee almost Maximum success sooner or later.Guardiola however relies on technically strong Players to implement his System. I would really like to see how he manages a weaker side. Since he won't anyway, he is not proven, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Lovren, Lallana, Lambert, Chambers, Shaw, Pocchettino ... seems everyone who left Southampton in the summer is under a curse. Barbara, LAB, RoyalBlues and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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