Osama bin Laden is dead

[Peace. 4,352]

Just as Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden shouldn't have been killed. Because we have made us a favor... They should have been thrown in jail for the rest of their life. There, they had an easy end. Plus killing isn't justice... What USA have done is vengeance, not justice.

And even if he is a big criminal, celebrate his dead like some americans are doing isn't right, in my opinion.

[Kez 2,727]

Just as Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden shouldn't have been killed. Because we have made us a favor... They should have been thrown in jail for the rest of their life. There, they had an easy end. Plus killing isn't justice... What USA have done is vengeance, not justice.

And even if he is a big criminal, celebrate his dead like some americans are doing isn't right, in my opinion.

Agree with that

[Fulham Broadway 17,320]

Why do the United States our military on almost 1000 bases spread across over 100 countries?

Could what said by Major General Smedley Butler, United States Marine Corps, who was twice awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, be true? "War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses."

[eldo 868]

"I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy."

I don't know about you guys. But in this lifetime, I've seen enough death. Be it Gadaffi's son, Bin Laden, Saddam Hussien. Enough. Justice does not equal death.

20-30 years in prison is nothing in comparison how many innocent people were killed in those attacks. He was a mass murderer.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

20-30 years in prison is nothing in comparison how many innocent people were killed in those attacks. He was a mass murderer.

That's why they serve multiple life counts. Bernie Madoff's in jail for 150-years.

[calculatingInfinity 1,472]

Just as Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden shouldn't have been killed. Because we have made us a favor... They should have been thrown in jail for the rest of their life. There, they had an easy end. Plus killing isn't justice... What USA have done is vengeance, not justice.

And even if he is a big criminal, celebrate his dead like some americans are doing isn't right, in my opinion.

Throwing Osama in prison would be a huge risk and lead to lots of terrorist attacks on the prison. But he fought back and they killed him, there is nothing wrong with that. Celebrating it is however pretty sickening.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

But he fought back and they killed him

No proof of this. Obama says he "watched" the entire operation, will be interesting to see if they release this footage.

My own opinion is, I'm disgusted by everyone cheering his death. Enough blood has been spilt unnecessary, enough lives have been taken for no good reasons. Human society is collapsing, the sanctity of human life no longer exits afaic.

[eldo 868]

No proof of this. Obama says he "watched" the entire operation, will be interesting to see if they release this footage.

My own opinion is, I'm disgusted by everyone cheering his death. Enough blood has been spilt unnecessary, enough lives have been taken for no good reasons. Human society is collapsing, the sanctity of human life no longer exits afaic.

Why would they release it? That would be a wrong move.

You are defending vile person. 150 years? He would only serve 30 years, but those people in NY died of a horrible death.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Why would they release it? That would be a wrong move.

You are defending vile person. 150 years? He would only serve 30 years, but those people in NY died of a horrible death.

I'm not defending him. Nothing I have said has been in defence. I'm sorry I'm not happy someone has died. Sorry.

Those people did die a horrible death in 9/11. Yet there is no concrete proof Bin Laden was responsible. What about the innocent people dying horribly at the hands of America and Britain, would you feel the same if every soldier who claimed an innocent life was shot on site?

Death does not equal justice. I would prefer to see him suffer in jail.

[calculatingInfinity 1,472]

No proof of this. Obama says he "watched" the entire operation, will be interesting to see if they release this footage.

There isn't any proof that he has even been killed either as far as I know... Other than the reports from Obama and the US who also said that they planned to take him alive if possible. I really doubt they will release any footage of the actual firefight, at most a photo or two of the dead body to shut up the conspiracy theorists. This is however what Brennan said at the press conference " We certainly were planning for the possibility, which we thought was going to be remote," Brennan said of capturing Bin Laden alive. " If we had the opportunity to take him alive we would have done that". So yeah until anything other than that has been proven I will go ahead and believe it.

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I'm not defending him. Nothing I have said has been in defence. I'm sorry I'm not happy someone has died. Sorry.

Those people did die a horrible death in 9/11. Yet there is no concrete proof Bin Laden was responsible. What about the innocent people dying horribly at the hands of America and Britain, would you feel the same if every soldier who claimed an innocent life was shot on site?

Death does not equal justice. I would prefer to see him suffer in jail.

Well he said so himself in one of his tapes and we do know that the people on the planes had very strong links with al qaeda. But as I said before I agree with you that celebrating his death is a bit disgusting, especially all the "Obama 1- Osama 0" shit but there is a pretty huge fucking difference from a soldier accidentally killing a innocent to someone aiming to kill innocent.

[calculatingInfinity 1,472]

Sorry double post.

[We Hate Scouse 10,326]

No proof of this. Obama says he "watched" the entire operation, will be interesting to see if they release this footage.

This will never, ever happen. It will just entice and aggravate the extremists even more. We'll be lucky to even see a photo, until we do see a photo mind you I don't believe it's true.

[calculatingInfinity 1,472]

This will never, ever happen. It will just entice and aggravate the extremists even more. We'll be lucky to even see a photo, until we do see a photo mind you I don't believe it's true.

A photo will convince you? Honestly with the amount of very talented photoshoppers out there I bet the white house could get a few and do a very good photoshop if they had really lied about this.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Well he said so himself in one of his tapes. But as I said before I agree with you that celebrating his death is a bit disgusting, especially all the "Obama 1- Osama 0" shit but there is a pretty huge fucking difference from a soldier accidentally killing a innocent to someone aiming to kill innocent.

What about the soldiers who went into Afghan villages and raped the women and children? Or the soldiers in places like Abu Ghraib who tortured their prisoners? (btw, I'm not saying we should kill soldiers. Just using for an example sake)

Also, in regards to the tape, why are there at least 5 other tapes/recording prior to this of him clearly denying any involvement in 9/11, to suddenly turn around and admit it was him in the end? I find this very strange considering he has taken credit for other bombing like Dar Es Salaam & Nairobi

[We Hate Scouse 10,326]

A photo will convince you? Honestly with the amount of very talented photoshoppers out there I bet the white house could get a few and do a very good photoshop if they had really lied about this.

I'm very unsure that this actually happened at the moment. There is always going to be doubt, whether it be a photo or a video but it will definitely give me more confidence that it is true.

[calculatingInfinity 1,472]

What about the soldiers who went into Afghan villages and raped the women and children? Or the soldiers in places like Abu Ghraib who tortured their prisoners? (btw, I'm not saying we should kill soldiers. Just using for an example sake)

The soldiers who raped (or killed for the fun of it) should be sent to prison for a long long time. As I already said I don't agree with shooting him on the place if he didn't fight back but according to the US he did and they are the only source we got. Not sure about Abu Ghraib though, soldiers are there to take orders and do what they are told and if they were really told to torture them it should be whoever ordered them to do that who should go to prison which has of course already happened.

Why Bin Laden at first denied involvement I dont know, but he certainly did take credit for it later on and did so a couple of times.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I must stress, I do hope my views do not offend anyone. I'm against taking any life, evil or good. Nor am I promoting the death of soldiers or anything else like that.

Now as for the actual issue of Bin Laden's death. I still question the lack of evidence we're being provided. I find it very strange and suspicious his body was just dumped in the sea as has been said. There is no logical sense in this.

[We Hate Scouse 10,326]

I must stress, I do hope my views do not offend anyone. I'm against taking any life, evil or good. Nor am I promoting the death of soldiers or anything else like that.

Now as for the actual issue of Bin Laden's death. I still question the lack of evidence we're being provided. I find it very strange and suspicious his body was just dumped in the sea as has been said. There is no logical sense in this.

I read earlier on that they dumped it in the sea because they didn't want it being a shrine to extremists. Which is understandable, although they could've buried it in an unmarked grave and not told the location.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I read earlier on that they dumped it in the sea because they didn't want it being a shrine to extremists. Which is understandable, although they could've buried it in an unmarked grave and not told the location.

Yeah I understand that, but it's they must realise the whole world would ask questions about the authenticity of this operation. And by delaying to produce a photograph it just makes the doubters even more sus.

If he is dead. Then ok. I've made my point about not celebrating.

However this does not end "the war on terror". Till we're out of Iraq, Afghanistan & Libya it will not be over. Till we save Palestine it will not be over. Till the propaganda media of America.. Murdoch's empire, is broken up.

[Fulham Broadway 17,320]

Its one beardy rich twat for fucks sake who used to be George Bushs mate. If people are stupid enough to celebrate that they need their heads examined

The US media have made him into Freddy Kruger/ Bogey man and theres not one shred of evidence he had anything to do with 9/11. He just made a few propaganda videos and had ainfluence because he came from a millionaire Saudi family. Dick Cheney, fat wanker, still believes Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11.

Until the US stops bombing the fuck out of other countries-which by the way always seems to be those brown people, desperados will continue to strap explosives to themselves.

PS The US killed twice as many people by bombing Afghanistan in the 3 months after 9/11, than were killed in the twin towers. People who had no television, no internet, who didnt even know about 9/11