BLionheart 516 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/8325404/Chelsea-would-be-10th-in-the-Premier-League-if-the-season-had-begun-in-November-scoring-less-than-West-Brom.htmlChelsea would be 10th in the Premier League if the season had begun in November - scoring less than West Broma very interesting read that shows how did the team drop from being top to being 5th now ..... i would have been very very happy if carlo was the long term manager we all have always looked forward to have but he is proving he lacks a lot of skills and characteristics that is needed to manage CFC.but again all those problems rose up when ray wilkins was sacked !!! his role was very underestimated , as i think his job was to work with each player individually while carlo work with the team as a whole and is looking after the tactics of the team .this is the only logical explanation to our crises ..... because if wilikins took care of the individual training of each player , working on each weakness and making sure they are in good form ... then it all makes sense now wilkins was sacked players started to dip in form one after another , and that is IMO the main reason behind this .although if that is the case then carlo had to find a solution , he had to do something even if it meant he worked with each player by himself .... and if he tried and it didn't work then he is not the right man for the job . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,367 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Giving him that Madame Tussauds reject Emanalo hasnt helpled..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Good read , maybe Ray was alot more valuable than anyone thought . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 20 points out of a possible 48 .19 goals scored, 19 goals conceded in 16 games . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 but again all those problems rose up when ray wilkins was sacked !!! his role was very underestimated , as i think his job was to work with each player individually while carlo work with the team as a whole and is looking after the tactics of the team .this is the only logical explanation to our crises ..... because if wilikins took care of the individual training of each player , working on each weakness and making sure they are in good form ... then it all makes sense now wilkins was sacked players started to dip in form one after another , and that is IMO the main reason behind this .although if that is the case then carlo had to find a solution , he had to do something even if it meant he worked with each player by himself .... and if he tried and it didn't work then he is not the right man for the job .Good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,367 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 So who fucked up by sacking him then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 4 league wins since the 10th of November !!!! Only 2 home wins in the league since the 10th of November !!!How anybody can defend Ancepotti is beyond help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 So who fucked up by sacking him then ?Someone who doesn't have to face the media, stand in the dugout or warrant column inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLionheart 516 Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 well , the problem is certainly a managerial one ..... i think the sacking of wilkins had proved to be a stupid move , but carlo has o take his fair share of the blame as well ..... he is the manager of CFC and he should be the 1st man to be asked about whatever goes wrong on the pitch ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 well , the problem is certainly a managerial one ..... i think the sacking of wilkins had proved to be a stupid move , but carlo has o take his fair share of the blame as well ..... he is the manager of CFC and he should be the 1st man to be asked about whatever goes wrong on the pitch ...But the question is does he have a choice ? he should be first asked but i cant see it being that way. If this was happend to Jose he would of kicked up a fuss Carlo just sits back and carry's on coaching no matter what is happening around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 what will happen if we have to sack him before the end of the season??. Who realistically already on the coaching staff could take the reigns?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 There is no chance he will go before the end of the season , he would have to be paid off and i dont think roman wants to do that. Also there is no one else available.I also would like a long term manager here , i though it would be Carlo last year but now i have doubt i just hope he can turn things around and prove all his critics wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Roman seems to have alot of faith in him, previous managers have been sacked for a lot better results. We have already lost 7 league games this season - it seems carlo is banking everything on the champs league, a risky business in a knockout tournement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Relax, it's only a blip How can anyone still say that Wilkins' sacking is responsible for the shit we're in with a straight face is beyond me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLionheart 516 Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 i think roman has not sacked carlo yet because :1- when we sacked mourinho , grant , scolari .... there was always a great assistant coach in clark or wilkins who can carry on after , those men were able to take control of the team till a new manager is appointed , and they also were a great aid for the new manager .... 2-carlo's ability to work under any conditions , he never says no , and he will do whatever you tell him to do , in other words he can be bossed unlike mourinho ...3- lack of other options , may be there is no other options all other reasons are complete shit :1-the fact that he has won the double has nothing to do with him being here this season , did you forget that mourinho won back to back EPls before he was sacked ...2-he has won the dressing room , well i doubt that because i know the likes of terry , lamps and Drogba are never happy losing also i doubt that has anything to do with his sacking . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,965 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I am not surprised at all. I remember some statistics showing the table based on the current form, I mean the table after the last six or eight games. It was revealed in December I think and Chelsea stood no chance, we were last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Fucking Stoke have won more points than us?Thats embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLionheart 516 Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 Chelsea played 7 different natural scorers in total (Drogba - anelka - torres - kalou - lampard - malouda - sturridge ) . Clearly, this suggests tactics and formation are the problem, rather than just the players.i completely agree that a lot of them are out of form but how did ancelotti react ?? whatever he is trying to do , it's not working ...i don't know what our options are when it comes to sacking carlo but a new assistant looks like a great start . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Blue 469 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Yeah if Wilkins was still with us,he would give our players a strategy,a better formation,brains,any kind of desire to to well.Let's bring him back and win the fucking treble.FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,541 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Exactly!! Roman needs to swollow his pride and bring him back,he's wasted on the telly! And its the way he refers to 'us' like awwwwww!!!Not saying its all to blame but he defintly helped.Least Carlo had someone to turn to,mean never see the other bloke with Carlo shouting and being 'rah' the way Ray was at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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