Spike 12,049 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 He should not have been sent off but what's more worrying is his slight regression in defensive ability. Under Carlo he was an absolute rock of a man, but now he loves to get foward a tad too often. Link to post Share on other sites
manpe 10,629 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 The moment I saw him clip Young I knew it was trouble. He shouldn't have gone so close to a notorious cheat like Young, he should have known better. He was on his stinky left foot, he would have probably blasted it wide or straight at Cech. A hard decision for the ref to make, I'll give him that. In the end I think it was a mistake both by the ref and Ivanovic. Link to post Share on other sites
Kieran. 6,317 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Poor Brana. The replay's convinced me that he didn't make any sufficient contact with Young. In fact, he did all he could to not make any contact. I wonder if there's any chance the club will make an appeal.He'll be banned for the Capital One Cup game and that's it. Professional foul is a one game ban, so it's no big deal. Link to post Share on other sites
Jase 43,476 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 He should not have been sent off but what's more worrying is his slight regression in defensive ability. Under Carlo he was an absolute rock of a man, but now he loves to get foward a tad too often.Does he have a choice? We are now relying on our FBs to provide the width again since we are playing narrowly with Oscar, Hazard and Mata. And yeah, his defensively abilities have gone down the drain a bit. Has struggled against pacey wide players and even when going forward, he doesn't offer much. His crosses are just mostly woeful. Would really like to see Azpilicueta been given a chance in the first team more but doubt we are gonna see that. RDM will continue to persist with the same players for almost every game. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Joker10 946 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 How many games is he suspended for? Link to post Share on other sites
Sheva. 5,373 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 How many games is he suspended for?1. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jase 43,476 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 How many games is he suspended for?Just 1. So will miss the clash against United on Wednesday. Doubt he would have played anyway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Does he have a choice? We are now relying on our FBs to provide the width again since we are playing narrowly with Oscar, Hazard and Mata. And yeah, his defensively abilities have gone down the drain a bit. Has struggled against pacey wide players and even when going forward, he doesn't offer much. His crosses are just mostly woeful. Would really like to see Azpilicueta been given a chance in the first team more but doubt we are gonna see that. RDM will continue to persist with the same players for almost every game.Think Ivanovic's crossing is underrated. http://www.eplindex.com/14552/premier-league-team-of-the-year-based-on-statistics-part-1-defence-opta-stats.html/2Agree that Ivanovic's defensive positioning has been poor this season but some of that as you say, is not his fault. The team plays so narrow up front that Cole and Ivanovic have to get forward to create width. It bothers me when we concede goals and everyone automatically blames the defensive players. Sometimes, it is their fault, but sometimes, it isn't. Football tactics are dominoes. One player is out of position so another has to cover and then another is left exposed in a dangerous area...It takes a team to attack or defend properly. (That's not to say that there aren't individual errors of course!) Link to post Share on other sites
Naked Mole Rat 437 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 He'll be banned for the Capital One Cup game and that's it. Professional foul is a one game ban, so it's no big deal.Really? I thought all straight reds were automatically subject to a 3+ match ban. Anyway, that's good. Link to post Share on other sites
RamiCFC9 258 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Can't blame Branna here, had to sprint against one of the fastest players in EPL 1v1 obviously he wouldn't make it.For me its Cahill's fault 100%, the way RVP owned him was disastrous. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jase 43,476 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Think Ivanovic's crossing is underrated. http://www.eplindex....ta-stats.html/2Agree that Ivanovic's defensive positioning has been poor this season but some of that as you say, is not his fault. The team plays so narrow up front that Cole and Ivanovic have to get forward to create width. It bothers me when we concede goals and everyone automatically blames the defensive players. Sometimes, it is their fault, but sometimes, it isn't. Football tactics are dominoes. One player is out of position so another has to cover and then another is left exposed in a dangerous area...It takes a team to attack or defend properly. (That's not to say that there aren't individual errors of course!)Stats don't always tell the whole story. That cross for Torres's goal against Norwich was his first quality one in ages. Otherwise, most of his crosses these days always hit an opposition player before it even reaches the intended target! You only have to look back at the 2009/10 season and look at the vast difference in quality of the crosses between then and now. As for his defending, yes sometimes it's also the team's fault when we concede certain goals but you also cannot ignore his individual performance. He has struggled dealing with quick and tricky wide players in recent times and his tendency to allow a cross to come in so easily is extremely annoying and smacks of poor defending! Link to post Share on other sites
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Stats don't always tell the whole story. That cross for Torres's goal against Norwich was his first quality one in ages. Otherwise, most of his crosses these days always hit an opposition player before it even reaches the intended target! You only have to look back at the 2009/10 season and look at the vast difference in quality of the crosses between then and now. As for his defending, yes sometimes it's also the team's fault when we concede certain goals but you also cannot ignore his individual performance. He has struggled dealing with quick and tricky wide players in recent times and his tendency to allow a cross to come in so easily is extremely annoying and smacks of poor defending!iva's defending has dipped a little this season but so has the cover for him. mata , hazard dont track back leaving both our wingers very exposed on numerous occasion. like yesterday's first goal in which cole n iva were both ahead (seems to be the plan that they should provide the width). so its not all brana's fault. when he is given a proper cover like in the arsenal match, he put in a brilliant shift. Link to post Share on other sites
Rambo 1,729 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Is he going to be out for 3 games now?EDIT - nevermind, read the last page. Link to post Share on other sites
DH1988 972 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 At least Cesar will get a chance to shine now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jase 43,476 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 At least Cesar will get a chance to shine now.Yeah...only for 1 game before RDM throws him back to the bench again. Link to post Share on other sites
termninja 5,290 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I wouldn't slate him for his often forward runs, it's obvious it's something Di Matteo either asked or encouraged. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Henrique 9,076 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 His foul was one of the most stupid moves a player made in a Chelsea shirt in recent years.If if Young had scored, we had enough time and quality to win the match.And yes, that was a foul and there was contact between two players, it was the same way Barcelonas' player got the red for making a foul in Anelka in that infamous match. Dont remember right now if was Abidal or Toure. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Stats 6,780 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 At least Cesar will get a chance to shine now.Not really. Ivanovic is only suspended for 1 game and Cesar was always likely to start against United anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Jase 43,476 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I wouldn't slate him for his often forward runs, it's obvious it's something Di Matteo either asked or encouraged.Being asked I would say. We are playing narrow with Oscar, Hazard and Mata and we need our FBs to provide the width.And yes, that was a foul and there was contact between two players, it was the same way Barcelonas' player got the red for making a foul in Anelka in that infamous match. Dont remember right now if was Abidal or Toure.Abidal. Link to post Share on other sites
Tomo 21,037 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I think Robbie has been clever slowly integrating Cesar, Moses and Marin in.Too much change in one go isn't good, so far the new players playing regularly are Hazard and Oscar, right now Hazard, Oscar and Mata are a trio causing havoc to other teams, eventually teams will 'wise up' to it a bit more then Robbie will start introducing the width, which will be Marin and Moses.Azpi aswell will have a very big future here, but Robbie is slowly integrating him, remember Ivanovic took over a year to settle properly and find consistency in his performances.Eventually Moses, Marin and Azpi will be fully integrated in the squad but for now im just happy witnessing Hazard and Oscar settling like a duck to water. Link to post Share on other sites
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