ZAPHOD2319 4,816 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 This England game has been painful to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 On hindsight, that England v Iceland game is just stupid and pointless at this point, especially after all that fuss about asking the UK government to let Iceland into the country. Had Iceland not been allowed in, England would have had to forfeit the game. Instead, both teams now have a complete dead rubber to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: This England game has been painful to watch. I think the world cup 2018 run will always give some sort of barometer of what they believe Southgate can do regularly. Without being overly dismissive on that campaign for England - because one as a Scot I cant say fuck all about world cup or euro campaigns as we've only just qualified for one after 22 years and two getting to the semis in a WC is still decent enough considering the expectations were very very low compared to how it would be with the so called golden generation in tournaments past - when they played the good teams (Belgium x2 and Croatia), they got beat and were a class below clearly. This England squad has huge potential undoubtedly but I think they wont come closer to winning anything with Gareth Southgate because in the bigger games they are outdone tactically, sometimes due to teams being better but a lot of the time due to his short comings as being a decent manager but not a top one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: I think the world cup 2018 run will always give some sort of barometer of what they believe Southgate can do regularly. Without being overly dismissive on that campaign for England - because one as a Scot I cant say fuck all about world cup or euro campaigns as we've only just qualified for one after 22 years and two getting to the semis in a WC is still decent enough considering the expectations were very very low compared to how it would be with the so called golden generation in tournaments past - when they played the good teams (Belgium x2 and Croatia), they got beat and were a class below clearly. This England squad has huge potential undoubtedly but I think they wont come closer to winning anything with Gareth Southgate because in the bigger games they are outdone tactically, sometimes due to teams being better but a lot of the time due to his short comings as being a decent manager but not a top one. hmm 2018 run a bit of luck (good side of the bracket plus a Kane dive here and there), which I guess counts as overachievement IMO. The team is just not elite level esp in midfield and def. Sterling is the only WC player in the squad (Kane is good, but not elite IMO a bit too slow these days). This was blatantly clear against Belgium: England tries to move the ball around and play progressively, but they do it so much slower than belgium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 9 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: I think the world cup 2018 run will always give some sort of barometer of what they believe Southgate can do regularly. Without being overly dismissive on that campaign for England - because one as a Scot I cant say fuck all about world cup or euro campaigns as we've only just qualified for one after 22 years and two getting to the semis in a WC is still decent enough considering the expectations were very very low compared to how it would be with the so called golden generation in tournaments past - when they played the good teams (Belgium x2 and Croatia), they got beat and were a class below clearly. This England squad has huge potential undoubtedly but I think they wont come closer to winning anything with Gareth Southgate because in the bigger games they are outdone tactically, sometimes due to teams being better but a lot of the time due to his short comings as being a decent manager but not a top one. I personally don't think tactic is super important in international football. In international football especially when it get to knock out stage it is all about trying not to concede. If you have good defense you alway have a chance, and then it is all about making as little mistake as possible and hopefully you are lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Azul and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,171 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Ginter is having a horrorshow for Germany 3 nil Spain only 39 minutes in http://www.sportnews.to/sports/2020/nations-league-spain-vs-germany-s1/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,171 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Kovacic scored for Croatia they are up 1 nil v Portugal http://www.sportnews.to/sports/2020/nations-league-croatia-vs-portugal-s2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Giroud, Kovacic, CHO all scored in the first half tonight. Yes, Germany is horrible lately and obvy Rudiger is not a reason for their defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,171 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Giroud scored for France up 2 1 v Sweden http://www.sportnews.to/sports/2020/nations-league-france-vs-sweden-s3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,171 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Sule is poor, Koch even worse Max is meh horrid back 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Thank fuck I am not watching or caring any more. If I were DFB I would have Sacked Löw in 2016 tho. No new impulses since. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Kova and Giroud both with a brace. Henry is so done on all time list by Olie. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Great goal by Kovacic, he's looking very very good for Croatia.Verstuurd vanaf mijn KB2003 met Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Azul said: Great goal by Kovacic, he's looking very very good for Croatia. Should obvy be a starter with Havertz and Kante in our squad. killer1257 and Azul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Germany having a nightmare but an ageing griup of top players who were world class/borderline world class that had won a lot (Neuer, Kroos, Boateng, Muller, Ozil) and as mentioned in Kepa thread regarding Spain, maintaining and having the next generation of top top players being the same as the previous ones is very difficult. Would imagine like Italy they will end up going to a tournament like Euros or WC and being good. They still have plenty about them but defensively their selections aren’t amazing and maybe Low been there for too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Should obvy be a starter with Havertz and Kante in our squad. There is so much creativity at Chelsea with Kai, Kova and Ziyech on the pitch. Kova is getting to his bestGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,381 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Should obvy be a starter with Havertz and Kante in our squad. Only against certain opposition. Kovacic against he likes of Newcastle or Burnley would be utterly pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Should obvy be a starter with Havertz and Kante in our squad. Kovacic at his best is world class, don't care what anyone else says.Verstuurd vanaf mijn KB2003 met Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Jogi Low out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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