The International Football Thread

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[Vesper 28,768]

we will face one of these 4 teams in the FWCC in December

[LAM09 6,744]

22 minutes ago, Vesper said:

we will face one of these 4 teams in the FWCC in December

I wouldn't say it's a given.

[Vesper 28,768]

4 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I wouldn't say it's a given.

those are the 4 teams left in the Copa Libertadores

there is almost zero chance we lose the FWCC semi-final against some scrub non South American side

and it is really likely the Copa team win their FWCC semi-final too

so do not understand what you are saying

only once in history (the first FWCC in 2000 that was under a different format and had two crazy good Brasil sides in it, the only time ever a Federation got two teams) has the UEFA champions league winners not made the final (Manure in 2000)

only 4 times in history has a non South American or non Mexican side (one Mexican side made it, last one (held in February 2021 due to COVID), when Palmeiras was rocked by COVID) not been in the final

The non SA/Mex sides were crushed in their 4 finals, by a combined score of 13 to 3

we will play one of 3 teams in the semi

from these 3 groups

 

or

or

 

 

 

[LAM09 6,744]

13 minutes ago, Vesper said:

those are the 4 teams left in the Copa Libertadores

there is almost zero chance we lose the FWCC semi-final against some scrub non South American side

and it is really likely the Copa team win their FWCC semi-final too

so do not understand what you are saying

only once in history (the first FWCC in 2000 that was under a different format and had two crazy good Brasil sides in it, the only time ever a Federation got two teams) has the UEFA champions league winners not made the final (Manure in 2000)

only 4 times in history has a non South American or non Mexican side (one Mexican side made it, last one (held in February 2021 due to COVID), when Palmeiras was rocked by COVID) not been in the final

The non SA/Mex sides were crushed in their 4 finals, by a combined score of 13 to 3

we will play one of 3 teams in the semi

from these 3 groups

 

or

or

 

 

 

I'm saying it isn't a given that a SA side will progress to the final. They have been a mixed bag in recent years & other teams around the world are closing the gap; RM faced two Asian teams in their FWCC triumphs whilst Inter beat an African team.  

One thing that let us down back in 2012 was underestimating teams, but I don't see that being an issue this time around.

Edited August 28, 2021 by LAM09

[Vesper 28,768]

1 hour ago, LAM09 said:

I'm saying it isn't a given that a SA side will progress to the final. They have been a mixed bag in recent years & other teams around the world are closing the gap; RM faced two Asian teams in their FWCC triumphs whilst Inter beat an African team.  

One thing that let us down back in 2012 was underestimating teams, but I don't see that being an issue this time around.

we didn't underestimate on 2012

we smashed a really good Monterrey side in the semis

and had the utterly rotten luck to face the best non UEFA side (that Copa Libertadores-winning Corinthians team) since the Brasilians won the first 3 FWCC's

plus fucking Rafa had a poor game plan, that cunt

other than Moscow 2008, that 2012 final haunts me the most of any final we have choked on. with the 2008 League cup final loss to spuds 3rd (only because it was spuds and the way Cech choked and then the last shot of game we hit the post) and of course the last two are the two pen shootout losses on the Super Cup, to Liverpool in 2019 in pens, then 5th, then pens loss to Bayern in 2013

it is just horrid to be the only UEFA fails since the first 3 FWCC's 

if we win in December and had won in 2012, we would the all-time best global comp English side

Manure would have 2 global trophies, but 2 finals losses too, when they collapsed at the 2000 FWC, crashed out in group stage, which is still the all-time worst performance for a UEFA team and they were beaten in the old Intercontinental Cup in 1968),. Liverpool are even worse, they are 1 win, 3 losses in global finals, and Forest and Villa lost their only global finals, in 1980, and 1982, respectively

plus we would have tied Real Madrid with 22 total trophies since 2004 (but still tied for 4th overall, trailing Bayern with 36, Barca with 35, and PSG with 30, although ALL of PSG's are easy domestic league trophies, they are shit at Europe level)

 

English sides are terrible in global club cups

only 3 wins and 8 fails (7 of them finals losses) including the only group stage crash out by a UEFA club

Spain is the best  with 11 wins 4 losses in global finals (7 and 1 in FWCC finals, with Barca losing in 2006 to a super Internacional (Porto Allegre) side (the last of the 3 Brasilian victories in a row, and last ever UEFA loss, until we choked in 2012)

Italy has 9 wins, 5 losses in global finals

Brasil has 10 wins, but 9 losses

Argentina has 9 wins too, but 13 losses, including no wins, 4 losses in FWCC finals

Germany has 5 wins 2 loses in global finals

Uruguay 6 wins, 2 losses but all were in the old Intercontinental Cup, and the last time a Uruguayan team (Nacional, who were 3 and 0 in finals, Peñarol were 3 and 2)  won was 1988

The Netherlands are 3 and 1 (Ajax 2, Feyenoord 1, and Eindhoven lost their single IC final)

Portugal are 2 and 2, Porto won the IC twice (including 2004 the very last IC ever, and after Mou came to us, and they barely beat the worst IC club finalist ever, Once Caldas, in pens after a 0-0 bore fest ), Benfica lost both their IC finals

the only 2 other countries to win any

Paraguay (1 win, and lost 2)

and Yugoslavia ( 1 win no defeats, Red Star Belgrade in the 1991 IC)

 

Edited August 28, 2021 by Vesper

[Vesper 28,768]

Ronaldo's record-breaking goal, stoppage-time winner remind us that no one does drama like Portugal's captain

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/portugal-por/story/4467139/ronaldos-record-breaking-goalstoppage-time-winner-remind-us-that-no-one-does-drama-like-portugals-captain

FARO, Portugal -- If anyone is still wondering whether Manchester United are getting a Cristiano Ronaldo whose best days are firmly behind him, just ask the shell-shocked Republic of Ireland players who thought they had denied him a goal-scoring world record in Estadio Algarve, only to see the Portugal captain smash it and then add to it in the space of seven crazy minutes at the end of a 2-1 World Cup qualifying victory.

Nobody does remarkable football drama quite like Ronaldo, but this historic night in Faro was up there with all of the great moments of his incredible career, largely because, for 89 minutes, he was having one of those nights when everything seemed to be going against him and his team. But at the end of it, he had claimed the international scoring record solely for himself having been locked on 109 goals alongside former Iran striker Ali Daei since netting twice against France at Euro 2020.

"I'm extremely happy, I needed one goal and I've scored two," Ronaldo said. "I'm very happy for the two goals that gave us the victory and for breaking the record.

"This record is mine and it is unique. I'm extremely happy and it's another one for my career. It's about motivation and the desire I have to continue playing football, also from this last contract I made, in which I was happy to return home.

 

highlights

https://soccercatch.com/matches/17680703/portugal-vs-republic-of-ireland#media

Edited September 2, 2021 by Vesper

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[nyikolajevics 2,573]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12397413/england-players-to-take-a-knee-before-playing-hungary-with-home-coach-vowing-to-stand-by-any-action-against-racism
 

 

A homophobic banner was seen in the stands during Hungary's defeat to Portugal in their opening game at the tournament, while monkey chants were also heard during their draw with France.
 

Very sad that this is our reputation because of ~100 idiots.. Hope will be no incident just a good game tonight, will attend.

[Fernando 6,453]

So what happen to the ban we was going to get for not letting players go to the qualifiers? Especially the ones from South America? 

And what is the reaction of the players? Any info?

[Vesper 28,768]

2022 World Cup Qualifying - UEFA, Group Stage

Hungary               
England                 

http://www.sportnews.to/sports/2021/world-cup-qualifying-hungary-vs-england-s3/

https://www.totalsportek.com/football/hungary-vs-england/

 

[Vesper 28,768]

2022 World Cup Qualifying - UEFA, Group Stage

Sweden       
Spain           

http://www.sportnews.to/sports/2021/world-cup-qualifying-sweden-vs-spain-s1/

https://www.totalsportek.com/page-1/

[Vesper 28,768]

2022 World Cup Qualifying - UEFA, Group Stage

Italy                         
Bulgaria                 

http://www.sportnews.to/sports/2021/world-cup-qualifying-italy-vs-bulgaria-s2/

https://www.totalsportek.com/page-2/

 

[Vesper 28,768]

2022 World Cup Qualifying - UEFA, Group Stage

Liechtenstein              
Germany                     

http://www.sportnews.to/sports/2021/world-cup-qualifying-liechtenstein-vs-germany-s4/

[Vesper 28,768]

already 1 1 in Sweden v Spain

Isak, then Soler

Edited September 2, 2021 by Vesper

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

Good for Timo to score. Even against Lichtenstein. 

[Fulham Broadway 16,831]

Great assist by Mason. Have that you racist fuck wits 😍

[nyikolajevics 2,573]

1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Great assist by Mason. Have that you racist fuck wits 😍

Thank you