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Wasnt impressed with our U21 contingent last night -they need to perform in games like that.

On the positive young Watmore was superb when he came on

I caught the end of that game, saw all 3 England goals. Watmore was very impressive.

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Anyone catch Beckham's charity match?

My word, Scholes and Beckham. They still have it. Once in a lifetime those two.

Have to disagree. Beckham had always been an average player with a decent cross or freekick in him but without the athleticism and ball control to be up there. And yes it has become a kind of fashion to praise Scholes for what he has achieved but the truth is he was into decline for most of his career becoming more of a mascot to Manchester United after turning 30. Both are perfect examples of the English completely misjudging their players.

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Have to disagree. Beckham had always been an average player with a decent cross or freekick in him but without the athleticism and ball control to be up there. And yes it has become a kind of fashion to praise Scholes for what he has achieved but the truth is he was into decline for most of his career becoming more of a mascot to Manchester United after turning 30. Both are perfect examples of the English completely misjudging their players.

Sorry. You couldn't be more wrong.

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Have to disagree. Beckham had always been an average player with a decent cross or freekick in him but without the athleticism and ball control to be up there. And yes it has become a kind of fashion to praise Scholes for what he has achieved but the truth is he was into decline for most of his career becoming more of a mascot to Manchester United after turning 30. Both are perfect examples of the English completely misjudging their players.

Agree about Beckham and Scholes, but only to an extent with the latter. Scholes was definitely more influential in his early United years, his peak was more in the 99/00 era. But I wouldn't go as far as to say he was in decline for most of his career. His role adapted in United and he was still very important in the tactical approach to the game, gave that United team a good sense of balance. Especially how when they went so long without a recognised CM. You can't deny that even top coaches and players in that time gave him enormous amounts of respect. England does misjudge mismanage a lot of players and it's unfortunate that Ferguson convinced Scholes to retire at 29, I think they could've done with him in 2006.

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You can enter the lottery for tickets for the Euro 2016 games now at https://euro2016.tickets.uefa.com/lottery/welcome_en.html

You will need a Visa or Mastercard for the application but it won't be charged unless you are successful in the draw which will take place in February.

You will also need you passport number as when I applied for tickets I was only able to apply for my national teams games and the passport number is used to verify your nationality.

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Finally after years England are playing players based on their club form and not selecting the same old shit tournament after tournament and friendly after friendly.

Alli, Rose, Kane, Dier and Barkley are all the way forward, the likes of Rooney should be not near the starting line up.

As a club we should be looking at this too, far too many has beens and prima donnas.

 

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