Nicolas Anelka

[Toli 977]

  On 30/12/2013 at 12:42, bushman said:

If I were to show up in front of your door wearing Nazi helmet, would you consider me pro Nazi ?

Let me give you an example. Several years ago, one of the so called royal family member attended a party dressed in Nazi outfit, swastika & all. Is he a Nazi supporter now ?

well, yes, I would? why would anyone wear a freaking nazi helmet if not having any connection to this scene?

i know the outfit you mean. I dont know why he wore it, but he is freaking dumb to do so and got critcized a lot. I cant remember anymore what his argumentation was, but If i would see anybody wearing the nazi uniforme, it would bei kinda logical to think, that he is one, isnt it? of course not everybody who wears certain things supports them automatically, but I think most of the people who wear nazi suites support nazis..about the so called "royal member" I dont know..he makes a lot of scandals and in his term, I dont think that he supports nazis, but who knows, what is going on in his head.

[bushman 2,043]

  On 30/12/2013 at 13:23, Toli said:

well, yes, I would? why would anyone wear a freaking nazi helmet if not having any connection to this scene?

i know the outfit you mean. I dont know why he wore it, but he is freaking dumb to do so and got critcized a lot. I cant remember anymore what his argumentation was, but If i would see anybody wearing the nazi uniforme, it would bei kinda logical to think, that he is one, isnt it? of course not everybody who wears certain things supports them automatically, but I think most of the people who wear nazi suites support nazis..about the so called "royal member" I dont know..he makes a lot of scandals and in his term, I dont think that he supports nazis, but who knows, what is going on in his head.

Why would The Prince wear swastika if he has no connection to Nazis ?

[The only place to be 11,313]

  On 30/12/2013 at 14:11, bushman said:

Why would The Prince wear swastika if he has no connection to Nazis ?

Because he's a fucking moron. Same goes for Anelka. Both deserve lengthy bans.

Apparently there are images of Sakho and Nasri doing the same gesture. What links all three?

[bushman 2,043]

  On 30/12/2013 at 14:13, The only place to be said:

Because he's a fucking moron. Same goes for Anelka. Both deserve lengthy bans.

Apparently there are images of Sakho and Nasri doing the same gesture. What links all three?

So your highness deserves a ban ?

What ban would you suggest ?

[Mouri_Matic 560]

It is pointless banning him because he means no harm but I don't get this shit type of celebrations some how, he didn't just scored the winning goal in the CL final or something, could of just done a normal raising hand celebration but he chose to make it controversial. Fair enough if his mum died like last week and he is attributing to her but nothing of sort happened, this is just pure idiot. Fine him like £100k and warn will be appropriate imo.

[bushman 2,043]

  On 30/12/2013 at 14:29, BlueMourinhoKing said:

It is pointless banning him because he means no harm but I don't get this shit type of celebrations some how, he didn't just scored the winning goal in the CL final or something, could of just done a normal raising hand celebration but he chose to make it controversial. Fair enough if his mum died like last week and he is attributing to her but nothing of sort happened, this is just pure idiot. Fine him like £100k and warn will be appropriate imo.

How do we interpret his celebration ? Should we listen to some Jewish community, to see how they view it ?

Can I wear a swastika around London ? Can I wear a Jewish star there, instead ?

[Mouri_Matic 560]

  On 30/12/2013 at 14:36, bushman said:

How do we interpret his celebration ? Should we listen to some Jewish community, to see how they view it ?

Can I wear a swastika around London ? Can I wear a Jewish star there, instead ?

I am not saying it is racist or anything but that why even bother doing these type of things in the 1st place, there will be no fire without smoke and he really didn't have to do that. So I am not criticizing him for it but rather his decision to do it. For the 2nd part, no and yes are your answers but then again you could try and see what happens lol

[We Hate Scouse 10,291]

  On 30/12/2013 at 14:36, bushman said:

How do we interpret his celebration ? Should we listen to some Jewish community, to see how they view it ?

Can I wear a swastika around London ? Can I wear a Jewish star there, instead ?

Here's an idea...Leave politics out of football. That way everyone wins.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

  On 30/12/2013 at 14:40, We Hate Scouse said:

Here's an idea...Leave politics out of football. That way everyone wins.

Exactly, what ever he thinks keep it to himself, whether he is gay/support Hitler or anything, keep it to himself. That is why many players never comes out with their view or sexuality, they won't survive in nowadays.

[bushman 2,043]

  On 30/12/2013 at 14:40, BlueMourinhoKing said:

I am not saying it is racist or anything but that why even bother doing these type of things in the 1st place, there will be no fire without smoke and he really didn't have to do that. So I am not criticizing him for it but rather his decision to do it. For the 2nd part, no and yes are your answers but then again you could try and see what happens lol

As I said, had he saluted anti-whatever, let him pay for it. What were his motifs ? Who knows ?

I could try what ? The jewish one or your favorite swasti ?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

  On 30/12/2013 at 14:40, We Hate Scouse said:

Here's an idea...Leave politics out of football. That way everyone wins.

Here's another idea, can we leave the politics out of this thread

Please continue the political discussion here, guys: http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/13128-politics-stuff/page-50

[nadavTKL 1,787]

  On 29/12/2013 at 09:45, BlueArmy said:

La quenelle isnt anti semitic for fuck sake, no one cared about it when he used it back in 2005.Its is like Choulo said anti zionist, nothing more nothing less, its is a peaceful way to fuck the French gouverment in a way, Dieudo is a wonderful humourist, the best in France, but since 2008 his mouth talked too much truth and the French gouverment with the pig that is Manuel Valls and at that time Sarkozy didnt really appreciated the anti-zionist approach that he always had so they tried ever since to stop him.Dieudo is in a war, and he got the french population behind him, helping him with money because of troubles about a song he made, a song ! What is making me laugh is that the DailyMail writers dont know shit about this gesture, they still describe it exactly like the French media, as an reverse nazi gesture, what a peace of joke they are, Renseignez-vous !

So you're saying the gesture is an anti-zionist thing or something that says "Fu*k you France gouverment"?

so much as been said about that and no one knows what it is lol...

I dont have a problem with people who have problems with Israel, "zionism" and stuff, but anyway Anelka is such an amazing idiot, its starting to be realy sad... why put yourself into those situations all the time.

[bushman 2,043]

  On 30/12/2013 at 14:47, BlueMourinhoKing said:

Exactly, what ever he thinks keep it to himself, whether he is gay/support Hitler or anything, keep it to himself. That is why many players never comes out with their view or sexuality, they won't survive in nowadays.

Are there many poofters in football ?

Half of the goons look to me kind peculiar though.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Anelka deserves no ban.

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

Such a overreaction. Lots of people have been pictured doing 'le quenelle' as far up as:

Also it's funny how when Deplagne celebrated a goal last year with le quenelle it went pretty much unnoticed, smh.

[The only place to be 11,313]

  On 30/12/2013 at 18:09, Eviltwinz93 said:

Such a overreaction. Lots of people have been pictured doing 'le quenelle' as far up as:

Also it's funny how when Deplagne celebrated a goal last year with le quenelle it went pretty much unnoticed, smh.

Obama and Jay Z aren't doing it.

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

  On 30/12/2013 at 18:12, The only place to be said:

Obama and Jay Z aren't doing it.

Well it's being reported that way. Regardless, he does deserve some support from the media seeing as their the ones who made this incident a controversy. He deserves no ban, end of.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

  On 30/12/2013 at 18:30, Eviltwinz93 said:

Well it's being reported that way. Regardless, he does deserve some support from the media seeing as their the ones who made this incident a controversy. He deserves no ban, end of.

What??? He deserves no support at all. He made what everyone in France knows is an incredibly offensive gesture in support of an extreme bigot who he considers his friend. I don't care if other people have done it. It's offensive and there's no place for it anywhere near football. This is not the media making something up, it's something very real that the media in England is being introduced to for the first time as it was a French phenomenon until now. Anelka deserves and will get a long ban. I have no sympathy for fascists and bigots nor people who try to justify and minimize their bigotry with pathetic backwards rationalizations. He's an adult who did something he knew was offensive in support of a disgusting human being. He deserves support? For what?

I'm finding the apologists for this baffling. And mostly idiotic.by people who don't have the faintest clue of what freedom of speech actually is (like the Duck Dynasty stuff) or how offensive gestures and language evolve. It's like calling someone a "retarded fag" and then saying well, "technically it means delayed bunch of sticks so nobody can be offended." Defending this level of obvious bigotry is bigotry.