Tomo 21,751 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I think Jose should do to Josh what he did to Huth.Have him in and around the squad for a year or two, play him whenever possible and then make a decision on his long term future. Peppen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The reason why he is not playing today is that he tweaked his groin in training yesterday. Should take part in our next game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Rob Beasley just tweeted Josh is off out on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 ^^Just read that. Disappointing but hardly surprising. I wonder where we're sending him out this time.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herpthederp 122 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 If it's not a Premier League club then he needs to rethink his future. He can't allow his development to be stifled any longer because he's clinging on to the hope that he's going to be a Chelsea starter. dave30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 ^^Just read that. Disappointing but hardly surprising. I wonder where we're sending him out this time..Not sure why disappointing. In an already crowded midfield, he wouldnt get a chance of any game time. It is good that he goes out and get his development going. The million dollar question is where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Not sure why disappointing. In an already crowded midfield, he wouldnt get a chance of any game time. It is good that he goes out and get his development going. The million dollar question is where?Disappointing because I honestly believe that Josh won't develop elsewhere as much as he would here. The reason for that is that Josh needs great players around him to show his true talent. His best asset is his vision and passing and naturally that requires players around him that actually have proper movement. I think if he stayed, played in the Capital One, early FA games, and got subed into matches we're winning in the PL he would be much better off. I was hoping that would happen but never really thought it would. Duppy Conqueror 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Disappointing because I honestly believe that Josh won't develop elsewhere as much as he would here. The reason for that is that Josh needs great players around him to show his true talent. His best asset is his vision and passing and naturally that requires players around him that actually have proper movement. I think if he stayed, played in the Capital One, early FA games, and got subed into matches we're winning in the PL he would be much better off. I was hoping that would happen but never really thought it would. it would be better to do that for chalobah who has actually showed on loan he deserves to be considered at chelsea zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 it would be better to do that for chalobah who has actually showed on loan he deserves to be considered at chelseaBut the point is, Chalobah can develop well anywhere, because his main assets can be valuable to any team. Josh on the other hand needs good players around him to be at his best.On any account, I think both will be going on loan as Jose only talked about Kevin, Romelu and Kala when talking about players returning from loan and joining the first team. I think it is best if Nathanial goes out on loan again. He still has a lot of room for improvement and he will be behind Mikel and Essien in the pecking order here. Tomo and royg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted July 21, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted July 21, 2013 Yes i know it was a pre season friendly. Yes i know this team are probably as good as Aldershot but McEachran really impressed me when he came onHis range of passing is just ridiculous, he made the rest of our team look beginners at passing when he came on and i think Jose might be working on his physical side too, just after he came on he barged one of their players off the ball. Look at the pass he made to Wallace before the Brazilian assisted Moses for the 4th goal, had 2 players pressurizing him but he released the ball to Wallace without breaking sweat.What he is lacking is the youthful confidence he had when he broke through under Ancelotti, who better to give it back to him then Mourinho, i really believe he will benefit more from staying with us (even if he only plays 15-20 games) than going on loan again and playing from some clueless Muppet like Tony MowbrayIn terms of natural talent he is the best young English player by an absolute mile (even over Wilshere) he needs to sort the mentality side of things and get a personal fitness coach because he's always knackered and drifts out of the game after an hour. DDA, Amblève., CHOULO19 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Jose found a cheese burger I see. Lookin good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 we have to give him a chance. he was really good since he came on. 25 minutes is no yard stick but still, give the guy a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 He has talent, no doubt, but considering how deep he wants to play he should be able to handle his own on the defensive side. Until he improves that, he'll always need to a babysitter in defence and that's not going to cut it in the PL. zolayes and semiller1313 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Blue Armour 4,439 Posted July 21, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted July 21, 2013 Pre-season-Yes, its only for fitness- Yes...but I'm saying it again, we will see the best of Josh only when the players in front of him make good movements. That's why he's better off playing with Chelsea's first team rather some team in Middlesborough, and I believe the recent friendly is a testament to that. royg, Tomo, didierforever and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Yes i know it was a pre season friendly. Yes i know this team are probably as good as Aldershot but McEachran really impressed me when he came onHis range of passing is just ridiculous, he made the rest of our team look beginners at passing when he came on and i think Jose might be working on his physical side too, just after he came on he barged one of their players off the ball. Look at the pass he made to Wallace before the Brazilian assisted Moses for the 4th goal, had 2 players pressurizing him but he released the ball to Wallace without breaking sweat.What he is lacking is the youthful confidence he had when he broke through under Ancelotti, who better to give it back to him then Mourinho, i really believe he will benefit more from staying with us (even if he only plays 15-20 games) than going on loan again and playing from some clueless Muppet like Tony MowbrayIn terms of natural talent he is the best young English player by an absolute mile (even over Wilshere) he needs to sort the mentality side of things and get a personal fitness coach because he's always knackered and drifts out of the game after an hour.Couldn't agree more. His natural ability to keep rhe ball moving and pick a pass is Xavi-esk! I have said it a 1000 times before and I will say it a 1000 times again, give Joshy a chance and he will show thst he is worthy of becoming a starter for Chelsea. royg, laura90, Tomo and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 21, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted July 21, 2013 Yes it's only preseason and yes it's only for fitness. But I couldn't help but wonder today, why in the hell are we sending this guy out on loan but keeping Van Ginkel who looked like he was struggling with some basic passes?! DDA, Blue Armour, laura90 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Yes it's only preseason and yes it's only for fitness. But I couldn't help but wonder today, why in the hell are we sending this guy out on loan but keeping Van Ginkel who looked like he was struggling with some basic passes?!exactly!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 lol people acting like it's his offensive contribution that he has to prove, no it isn'tit's his defensive contribution and he didn't show me anything in that sense, no improvement at allpeople aren't writing him off because he can't pass, dribble, or has no talent, it's because he's nowhere near a complete midfielder you need to be to be able to play in the PL Peace., kellzfresh, semiller1313 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Yes it's only preseason and yes it's only for fitness. But I couldn't help but wonder today, why in the hell are we sending this guy out on loan but keeping Van Ginkel who looked like he was struggling with some basic passes?!So why are we keeping ramires then? For the defensive aspect of his game, just like MVG. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 lol people acting like it's his offensive contribution that he has to prove, no it isn'tit's his defensive contribution and he didn't show me anything in that sense, no improvement at allpeople aren't writing him off because he can't pass, dribble, or has no talent, it's because he's nowhere near a complete midfielder you need to be to be able to play in the PLIm not saying start him in a Champions League semi final at the Allianz Arena, but he could be useful against team's like Hull especially who will park the jumbo jet infront of their goal. didierforever, Blue Armour, laura90 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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