OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 What position do you see Josh playing at in the 4-2-3-1 formation next season (if RDM stays on as manager or we stick with the formation with a new one)? Would it be playing alongside Mikel/Romeu in the double pivot role or playing in the hole behind the striker?I don't see him playing here at all next season, as he is nowhere near ready hence why he warms the bench at Swansea. Its not that their midfield is amazing either its just the fact he gets 10-15 minutes every 2 or 3 weeks if hes lucky and this was meant to speed up his development? Don't get me wrong I'm sure hes learned from their training but there is no point in him sitting warming the bench for them when he could of been at another club on loan actually playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I say in future we keep young players here and give them the appropriate playing time unless...the club we are loaning him too can guarantee him first team football and reguarly.We stick a clause in the loan deal saying he can come back if he doesn't get so many minutes in a month time length. OneMoSalah and CHOULO19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I say in future we keep young players here and give them the appropriate playing time unless...the club we are loaning him too can guarantee him first team football and reguarly.We stick a clause in the loan deal saying he can come back if he doesn't get so many minutes in a month time length.We should get another feeder club but an English one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamiCFC9 258 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Or make it like Spain, with B teams. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Or make it like Spain, with B teams.There should be a separate league for PL B teams imo, playing roughly the same amount of games as the PL. Pity the FA know fuck all about trying to help develop talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamiCFC9 258 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Ye man totally agree, England is miles behind Spain,Germany and Netherlands in developing young players.Its like FA really couldn't care less, I have the impression they just want to make as much money as possible and thats all. Kojo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Ye man totally agree, England is miles behind Spain,Germany and Netherlands in developing young players.Its like FA really couldn't care less, I have the impression they just want to make as much money as possible and thats all.The problem is you have Allardyce and Pulis impressionists coaching the kids of this country.Any potential English Messi will be in Tesco stacking shelves by the time he's 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I have to admit, I would criticize the FA but they basically gave Scotland half their national team... Commons, Mackie, Morrison etc. Fucking pathetic shows how bad Scotland is at bringing their own youngsters through as well, but that is mostly because English clubs buy them all like Feruz! Despite him being at Chelsea, since I support Celtic as well as Chelsea, I was disappointed after all Celtic had done for him and his family when he left. He wouldn't be in this country if Celtic hadn't seen him playing football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 There should be a separate league for PL B teams imo, playing roughly the same amount of games as the PL. Pity the FA know fuck all about trying to help develop talent.AVB suggested that months ago about having the reserve teams playing in a competitive league like they do in Spain but got slated for trying to change the tradition and structure of English football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 AVB suggested that months ago about having the reserve teams playing in a competitive league like they do in Spain but got slated for trying to change the tradition and structure of English football. David Moyes has tried it and Wenger suggested it too. Its the right way to go ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 David Moyes has tried it and Wenger suggested it too. Its the right way to go !But those fellas that run English football are too afraid to change things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 But those fellas that run English football are too afraid to change things.And that's why young players will continue to fall into the gap between reserve team football & first team football. This limits their development and we are left with a whole bunch of 22-25 years old who won't get the chance to represent England and/or play top level football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 What shite timing this loan move was.Josh would have actually got some playing time under RDM with the fixture conquestion we had and not only that he would have had a FA Cup winners and at worst a CL runners up one aswell.The timing of this loan move was fucking dreadful. He would have got the winners mentality being part off an FA Cup winning squad and one that got so far in the CL instead he sat on the bench with Swansea and never played in anything over than defeats.I can't even begin to imagine the frustration he must be feeling right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I can't even begin to imagine the frustration he must be feeling right now.Well he seems pretty happy sucking on his lollipops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeo 37 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I blame AVB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamiCFC9 258 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 AVB should be blamed 100%, actually Josh despite his age was one of the few players who can fit in his gameplan and what does the ginger did?Send him off to rot at a relegation shi te team, who don't give a fu k about CHELSEA's talents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 AVB should be blamed 100%, actually Josh despite his age was one of the few players who can fit in his gameplan and what does the ginger did?Send him off to rot at a relegation shi te team, who don't give a fu k about CHELSEA's talents.That's too harsh,we all expected Josh to play regularly or at least a few more games and AVB did the right thing by sending him out on loan.He knew Josh wouldn't get much game time and so for his best interest sent him out on loan to a good passing team,a style he had wished to adapt next season at Chelsea.In my opinion,Brendan Rodgers is the man to blame,not AVB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamiCFC9 258 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Every Chelsea fan was happy about Josh going at Swansea on loan (including me), BUT we are just fans we don't have inside information for most of the things, while AVB has(had), so he should've predicted this bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I think people need to step back and think more calmly. Josh is very young . We were guilty of expecting too much too soon.He hadnt fully developed physically and progress hasn't been what we hoped for . We had a similar situation with Kakuta. He too sufferedbad loan spells but now seems to be recovering and showing again the promise.Be patient there is still plenty of time for Josh , Gael and Lukaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Despite that zola, I do worry about Josh though. What if we've ruined him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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