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[CHOULO19 24,332]

Morale high road. You are the better person, so why let someone die by proxy? In this scenario would the world be better with selfless doctors that will try their hardest no matter the patient or one extra KKK member? You don't save them because of who they are, you save then because of who you are.

No disrespect, but that sounds like you took it from some lame Hollywood movie

Seriously though, that statement is self contradictory. By the words of Nietzsche: "Moral is the daughter of selfishness". True selflessness (ie something you do that you don't benefit in any way from and no body knows about) is logically immoral, and in my honest opinion just plain naive.

[capriccioso 2,545]

Spike probably took it from his beloved Cowboy Bebop

[Spike 12,049]

No disrespect, but that sounds like you took it from some lame Hollywood movie

Seriously though, that statement is self contradictory. By the words of Nietzsche: "Moral is the daughter of selfishness". True selflessness (ie something you do that you don't benefit in any way from and no body knows about) is logically immoral, and in my honest opinion just plain naive.

I do not see the contradiction at all.

Niesztche also said that when you fight monsters soon you become one yourself. Let's say the doctors let the KKK member die as an act of defiance, to strike a blow against them. They would be as guilty of murder than those that lynched mobbed others.

Guilty of killing people in lunch mobs.

Guilty of betraying their hippocratic oath and allowing patients to die.

I'm also kind of offended that some mock my own personal philosophy.

[Leif 6,006]

Protein shakes are cunts. So much caffeine. My heart's going as fast as a train. They also give me the shits.

[capriccioso 2,545]

It's a topic for pure off-topics. Write whatever comes to your mind. Don't know why anybody didn't start this before

So yeah, I'll start

WTF HAPPENED TO LEGEND?!

Well, quite a bump, but I'm shocked at what's happened to Adriano.

Take a good long look at who Scolari wanted to replace Drogba with.

[Leif 6,006]

Apologies to any religious people on here who may be offended by the following video, but this is some of the funniest shit I've ever seen (even if some of what he says isn't completely accurate):

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I do not see the contradiction at all.

Niesztche also said that when you fight monsters soon you become one yourself.

Most people rarely have a choice in life. If monsters come for a fight, very few can afford to be Ghandy.

Let's say the doctors let the KKK member die as an act of defiance, to strike a blow against them. They would be as guilty of murder than those that lynched mobbed others.

Guilty of killing people in lunch mobs.

Guilty of betraying their hippocratic oath and allowing patients to die.

You missed my point mate. Selfishness is the base of all morals. You are taught not to lie so that people believe you; you are taught to be help people so that they would help you back. So your first statement is contradictory because you said that doing something selfless is taking the moral high road.

I'm also kind of offended that some mock my own personal philosophy.

I did say "no disrespect"

[Hutcho 8,443]

Apologies to any religious people on here who may be offended by the following video, but this is some of the funniest shit I've ever seen (even if some of what he says isn't completely accurate):

That is quite jokes... Though tbh i do agree with him on some stuff, as i am not religious myself....

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

At the risk of starting a 'heated' discussion, I don't think I would save the life of someone like him. Why should I? The world is a better place without him.

First of all, apparently the add is a fake http://www.snopes.com/photos/medical/klaner.asp

It doesn't really matter in terms of this discussion though. Doctors have the duty to save anyone regardless of the situation. I think that's a good thing. You don't want doctors picking and choosing who they want to save. Also, two things about prejudice 1) It is learned. People are racist because they were raised racist and are kept unaware of the reality of "the other" who are also dehumanized. 2) Because it is generally a matter of education, it can be undone. This is why there are many people who are ex-Nazis, Ex-KKK, etc...and you don't know if the dying person is going to be the person who reforms (and a traumatic incident like that can definitely make someone think about things differently)

[CHOULO19 24,332]

First of all, apparently the add is a fake http://www.snopes.co...ical/klaner.asp

It doesn't really matter in terms of this discussion though. Doctors have the duty to save anyone regardless of the situation. I think that's a good thing. You don't want doctors picking and choosing who they want to save. Also, two things about prejudice 1) It is learned. People are racist because they were raised racist and are kept unaware of the reality of "the other" who are also dehumanized. 2) Because it is generally a matter of education, it can be undone. This is why there are many people who are ex-Nazis, Ex-KKK, etc...and you don't know if the dying person is going to be the person who reforms (and a traumatic incident like that can definitely make someone think about things differently)

Well I can't argue with that logic. But practically, would you do it?

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Well I can't argue with that logic. But practically, would you do it?

I like to think that I would, but honestly, I don't know.

[manpe 10,861]

I've realized that I am a solipsist

[dave30 728]

I've realized that I am a solipsist

In that case well done mate. You wrote Shakespeare, designed the Albert hall and created talk Chelsea all on your own

[manpe 10,861]

In that case well done mate. You wrote Shakespeare, designed the Albert hall and created talk Chelsea all on your own

Amazing, isn't it? In fact, you are me, I am you... why am I talking to myself?

[Spike 12,049]

Most people rarely have a choice in life. If monsters come for a fight, very few can afford to be Ghandy.

You missed my point mate. Selfishness is the base of all morals. You are taught not to lie so that people believe you; you are taught to be help people so that they would help you back. So your first statement is contradictory because you said that doing something selfless is taking the moral high road.

I did say "no disrespect"

I wasn't really using the term selfless as an arguing point more of a poetic adjective, funny that my writing style got be into trouble.

[OneMoSalah 8,789]

Well, quite a bump, but I'm shocked at what's happened to Adriano.

Take a good long look at who Scolari wanted to replace Drogba with.

JESUS FUCK HES FATTER THAN RONALDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also I hate Nike shorts with the stupid, inner short thingy inside them. FUCKING SO ANNOYING

[capriccioso 2,545]

GET IN BERTO

[Liquidator 5,176]

No activity all day? Me and Ryan were at school, whs was at work and cap went on a shopping spree in banana republic I assume