🇧🇷 Ramires

[Phil Driver 503]

Was everything Mikel is not ,bite ,energy,guts,stamina,progressive,committed,fast,plays as high up the pitch as he can and wins posession so we can counter,but is quick enough to be back in position to defend and passing was good ,always good to be proven right on a player and happy to have Jose back making the right calls .

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He did well today, but I don't like him next to Lampard, tbh. It limits him and he can't do what he does best that is being a box-to-box midfielder.

[Phil Driver 503]

I am afraid your sitting midfielder who holds hands with JT & co filling gaps of his own making may well be thing of the past under Jose Choulou everyone is a box to box player ,no passengers on this bus

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I am afraid your sitting midfielder who holds hands with JT & co filling gaps of his own making may well be thing of the past under Jose Choulou everyone is a box to box player ,no passengers on this bus

Except he didn't play box-to-box today because he was playing next to Lampard but instead stayed deep to get the ball from the CBs and fill "gaps of his own making" as is evident by the action areas map:

You can't have all your midfielders playing box-to-box That's not how football works.

[Phil Driver 503]

Not your maps again Choulo ,have you got one that shows Mikel's backwards passes?

Aggression,energy,stamina,tackling ,pressing and does that map show Rammys ball over the top for Torres for the penalty, something Mikel has never done in seven years from that role ,hence not even on the bench.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Not your maps again Choulo ,have you got one that shows Mikel's backwards passes?

Aggression,energy,stamina,tackling ,pressing and does that map show Rammys ball over the top for Torres for the penalty, something Mikel has never done in seven years from that role ,hence not even on the bench.

Well none of that really has anything to do with the point we were discussing (not that I agree with any of it). You said that Ramires can still play as a box-to-box next to Lampard who makes forward runs which nonsense as is evident by the maps above.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

He did well today, but I don't like him next to Lampard, tbh. It limits him and he can't do what he does best that is being a box-to-box midfielder.

Rally should start Van Ginkel and Lampard together. Ramires can go with Mikel.

[Phil Driver 503]

Well none of that really has anything to do with the point we were discussing (not that I agree with any of it). You said that Ramires can still play as a box-to-box next to Lampard who makes forward runs which nonsense as is evident by the maps above.

The Ramires, Lampard combination will interchange one will sit and one can go ,you will see this with these two and in a Mourinho team ,as opposed to when Mikel is playing where everybody knows he will just sit (inc the opposition) the interchanging of positions is key and will be in this team.

I see you do not want to discuss the Ramires pass to Torres for the pen. that is fine as Mourinho's team selection tells us how he is thinking. Ramires will get forward at times and Lampard will sit as they both have the ability to do this ,Mikel has no ability to get forward as your maps will show and will not include a pass like Ramires/Torres for the pen yesterday from that deeper role. What one of your maps shows Mikel in the stands yesterday?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

The Ramires, Lampard combination will interchange one will sit and one can go ,you will see this with these two and in a Mourinho team ,as opposed to when Mikel is playing where everybody knows he will just sit (inc the opposition) the interchanging of positions is key and will be in this team.

I see you do not want to discuss the Ramires pass to Torres for the pen. that is fine as Mourinho's team selection tells us how he is thinking. Ramires will get forward at times and Lampard will sit as they both have the ability to do this ,Mikel has no ability to get forward as your maps will show and will not include a pass like Ramires/Torres for the pen yesterday from that deeper role. What one of your maps shows Mikel in the stands yesterday?

No, they won't interchange roles. Lampard will almost never drop deep to receive the ball from the CBs, that is Ramires' job while Frank will barely get a touch or two in the build-up but instead will be in a more advanced area waiting to make a run into or around the box. While when Ramires plays next to Mikel, Essien or MVG, he has the license to go forward and join the attacks and use his pace to make runs into the box. That is when Rami is at his best which is why I originally said I don' like Rami to partner Lampard.

If they interchanged roles they'd have very similar action areas maps, but they don't. It is clear that Rami was sitting deeper than Lampard who made more forward runs. How many of his trademark runs did you see Rami make into the box yesterday? Zero, because he was playing deeper.

Rally should start Van Ginkel and Lampard together. Ramires can go with Mikel.

Agree. I think that Rami works best with Mikel next to him as well and I also think Lamps with MVG will work too.

[Phil Driver 503]

while Frank will barely get a touch or two in the build-up - Rubbish .

[Phil Driver 503]

Agree. I think that Rami works best with Mikel next to him as well and I also think Lamps with MVG will work too.

The signs are that Mourinho doesnt agree and Mikel will not be working as well with anyone as his first choice was Lampard/Ramires those are the stats you should be looking at .

[bleed_blue 136]

Rally should start Van Ginkel and Lampard together. Ramires can go with Mikel.

What crimes has Ramires committed to suffer such a harsh punishment?

I wouldn't wish that even to my enemies.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

What crimes has Ramires committed to suffer such a harsh punishment?

I wouldn't wish that even to my enemies.

What? Mikel can stay back so Ramires cam go forward more, with Lampard he can't because Lampard himself wants to come forward all the time. And I know Mikel is shit but it is just tactical sense.

[The_Flash 1,144]

I think the amount of times he got taken out yesterday was a joke. The tackle where he got totally taken out and almost stood on his head was a red

There is no point in all this technology if the ref are going to continue to cheat and engineer results. It always has astounded that players, staff, manager everyone can get fined and banned etc but these refs get away with everything. They constantly engineer results, they cause injuries as they let it go and let it go and them someone gets hurt. They cause points and trophies to be lost and some teams to get relegated and even the most obvious and shocking decisions they are never called up on it. I really thought that push on Ivan was another penalty. It doesn't matter if you have given ten already the rules are the rules.

This silly new thing with Sky having this huge tv on while they interview they should drag the red out and say what were you doing here? The mans head is hanging off yet you deemed it not a penalty??

[Styles 9,790]

He was excellent yesterday and even made some great passes that you normally don't associate with him. I can only put that down to him being confident and not second-guessing himself. Long may it continue.

[Sheva. 5,373]

I was impressed with his pass to Schurrle, those were the one's he would normally over-hit.

[Styles 9,790]

I was impressed with his pass to Schurrle, those were the one's he would normally over-hit.

What was most impressive about that was Ramires played it first time with his weaker foot. It was perfectly weighted and Schurrle didn't have to break stride.

[Phil Driver 503]

Jose will get inside Rammys head, he has obviously recognised his talent and I think he has identified a role in the team for Rammy where he can become very effective for us.

[Tomo 21,751]

What an incredible player we have, superb engine, under-rated finisher and his technical ability is getting better by the day, it will never be up there with the best, but that isn't his job so it doesn't matter.

He will be our most important player this season, we can rotate the 6 behind the forward depending on who we are playing, but whenever Rami is out, we will feel his loss.

He will get even better under Mourinho. What i do hope is Jose starts working on aspects of his game other than pace, because that won't be around forever and if he carries on relying on that, his decline when his pace does go (or god for bid gets a nasty injury) will be steeper than Essien's.

[Johnny Kills 164]

I wish some of the video magicians that are on here make a Ramires goals vid