Madmax 9,219 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 should be kept to comply with the new rules and given a proper chance with the first team squad....give him a proper position and a year to prove himself at it with both him and Mancienne i can see us letting both of them go,but sometime in the next two to three years regretting it and then trying to buy them back for three or four times the price we sold them for. My thoughts exactly, maybe in better words than what I would've managed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 if this boys walks away from chelsea i will know that our board ist totally stupid... jack is probably the next frank lampard, there are so many similaritys between them, sometimes its so obvius that you dont see it...both ar really really underrated, both have an exceptional work rate, both have a nice shot in they're feets, but yeah, jack can play many many more positions than franky...both are relly intelligent, both can tackle, both have a superb technique (may be not the best in the world, bot right up there)...just look at his movement and his abilitys on the ball...this will be a future entland star walking out of the door, so i absolutly dont understand ppl here letting him go, best prospects in our youth and better than any signing we could make:CORKYMancienneKakutaBrumav.AanholtMc Eachran ( a bit to young)Clifford (same)Kaby (way to young but great talent, could be next makalele or essien)sala (great squadplayer, superversatile)so i sometimes think ppl are totally out of mind here...cork played on EVERY England-Youth Level, any team he entered was CONQUERED by him and he was a FIRSTTEAMPLAYER from day one and after at least three games he was a starter for sure... PLUS he was at CHelsea SINCE NINE... he will be a REAL Chelsea TALENT... mor than terry (come over herer with 14)...just think about us, producing our own lamps...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNvOJ3Kqd6chttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNvOJ3Kqd6chttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWzr5-21Mmk&feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EskWeston 696 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Don't know about the comparison to Lampard, but i think Jack Cork is a quality player and i would hate to see us lose him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Don't know about the comparison to Lampard, but i think Jack Cork is a quality player and i would hate to see us lose himi've come to this conclusion after many thoughts... look ad his body language:Technique: equalBodylanguage: equalPhysic: equalPassing: equalshooting: equalloved by every manager he works with: equaldont talks much just plays: equalacts like an intelligent and quite lad: equalunderrated by own fans: equalplays where you want him to play: equalnever complains about Manager: equalmanager working with him astonished with him: equalso corky = lampslike... just watch him pass, his calmness on the ball and his workrate... i think you're may be more of an expert and if you take a look at, you will know what i mean... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EskWeston 696 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Technique: equal - Jack Cork's technique is miles off Lampard, obviously age has a lot to do with that but i don't see many similarities therePhysic: equal - Jack isn't as physical as Lamps, can be worked on thoughPassing: equal - Different type of passer, Jack is more like Ballack in that respect than Lamps i feelshooting: equal - No way near, not many strikers as good at shooting as Lamps is, He gets into some good positions as you would expect from a midfielder, but not the way Lamps doesunderrated by own fans: equal - Frank is most certainly NOT underrated by his own fans. And to be fair there are not many Chelsea fans who will know anything of Jack Cork as he never played for our first team outside of pre season.I like Jack a LOT and think he can offer us lots this season if given the chance, but to compare him to Lampard, i just don't see any similarity. Connor Clifford on the other hand, there is player like Lamps the way he drives the midfield (kind of an Essien/Lamps cross breed actually) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 @esksry this was MY Fault... I was talking about the young West-Ham midfielder Frank Lampard... not the finished Prospect, like we have him now... may be you can agree more than Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EskWeston 696 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 @esksry this was MY Fault... I was talking about the young West-Ham midfielder Frank Lampard... not the finished Prospect, like we have him now... may be you can agree more thanLol, OK., So then the question is, would we get another Lampard type player with Cork given another 5 years? I still don't think we will, as top class as Jack Cork is and can be i don't see him ever being a Lampard type player. Sorry to be so contradictory but it's just the way i see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Lol, OK., So then the question is, would we get another Lampard type player with Cork given another 5 years? I still don't think we will, as top class as Jack Cork is and can be i don't see him ever being a Lampard type player. Sorry to be so contradictory but it's just the way i see it ya so only future will tell but i really think he will make the central midfield his own, where ever he'll play... and i really see similaritys... like i said, bodylanguage, shooting, technique, workrate and passing... so we'll see hehe but we both agree that corky is TOP CLASS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 OfficialSeason long loan at Burnley.http://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/page/LatestHeadlines/0,,10413~2119482,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I'd prefer he went to a club in the Premier League. But he seemed to do well at Burnley, so let's give him a chance. I think this kid has a good future with England and with Chelsea, let's hope he shines so we can play him in our squad next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 A loan move seems right, but to a Championship side?I don't know, but i guess if Burnley were the only ones calling for him then guess better for him to get first team action there on loan then rot on someone's sub bench. I guess we can only base his future on the development he has there before coming to a viewpoint of staying or cashing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Arrgh two pointless Championship loan moves in Bertrand and Cork ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EskWeston 696 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 2 England U21 internationals and we loan them to the Championship, not what i wanted to see at all. Dissapointed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 The club really are clueless at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 A loan move seems right, but to a Championship side?I don't know, but i guess if Burnley were the only ones calling for him then guess better for him to get first team action there on loan then rot on someone's sub bench. I guess we can only base his future on the development he has there before coming to a viewpoint of staying or cashing in.there have been dozens of teams scouting cork... he just has gone to burnley cause he was treated well over there, unlike he was at chelsea... a shame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Great way to be showing how we're reducing the age of our squad. Sign Benayoun who's 30, and loan out Bertrand and Cork to yet another set of Championship clubs. It's pointless and disgraceful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Chelsea are really wasting the English talents. First Bertrand and now Cork.Cork held up pretty well in the PL, why waste his talent by loaning him to the Championship Bertrand has been doing well in the Championship for years and still no PL club loan or a chance with us. They already messed up Sinclair, so finally get it right with these two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Exclusive: Palace table bid for Chelsea ace Monday, 17 January 2011By Richard Cawley CRYSTAL Palace have made a bid for Chelsea midfielder Jack Cork - as well as lodging an official offer for Everton striker James Vaughan. The South London Press has been told that Cork, the son of former Wimbledon striker Alan, is a target for new Eagles boss Dougie Freedman. He is currently on a season-long loan with Burnley and has impressed during previous loan stints at Southampton, Scunthorpe and Watford. Palace are also chasing a deal for Vaughan, on loan at Selhurst Park earlier this season, and his club Everton are believed to be ready to sell for around £850,000. For the full story on the bids for both players, don't miss tomorrow's South London Press. Follow us on Twitter - @SLPsport. South-London-TodayJack Cork scooped the fans' man of the match award and while the on-loan Chelsea man again showed why he needs to be snapped up on a permanent transfer, I think Michael Duff or Danny Fox probably just pip him for me. I have never been much of a Fox fan but I thought he was superb on Saturday, both defensively and going forward. Equally too, Duff was brilliant at centre half, throwing himself into challenges despite having already picked up a booking. lancashiretelegraph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Chelsea are really wasting the English talents. First Bertrand and now Cork.Cork held up pretty well in the PL, why waste his talent by loaning him to the Championship Bertrand has been doing well in the Championship for years and still no PL club loan or a chance with us. They already messed up Sinclair, so finally get it right with these two Sorry but Sinclair just was not good enough, he had a fair few chances in the 1st team under Jose, Avram and Scolari and didnt really impress in any of them (with the expetion of Arsenal at the Emirates the day we lost the league).Bertrand is a good player and if he was a right back id say he had a real shout, but with A-D-C and P-V-A comperting for that position he might find it difficult, having said that he is defiently prem standard atleast.Cork i agree does deserve a chance, he was single handedly trying to get Burnley out of a hole last season and has been argubly their best player this, ive always seen him as our versatile back up (John O Shea style). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Yeah Tomo's right. Sinclair is a Championship player, not a Premier League one. We gave him enough chances to shine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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