Chelsea 0-2 Man City

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

5 hours ago, Thor said:

Actually thought that was a decent performance against the best team in the world and our first game playing our best team. 
 

Shitty are not the best team in the world bruv, I don’t get where you get that idea from.

Real are the biggest club in world football, and they are the best club team in the world, and always have been.

[Special Juan 28,133]

Starting line up told me everything I needed to know, the first name on the sheet is Sanchez, fuck me he is absolute garbage and I keep asking myself what the actual fuck do managers see in this shithouse. The game itself went as I expected it, wasted chances, Jackson doing his best impression of a fucking donkey and us giving Haaland the freedom of SW6.

Wolves on Sunday will be more of the same, I'm saying it now winless before the international break

[manpe 10,861]

Poch already experimented with Enzo at 10 and it failed, why is he playing there again? As soon as Poch put him back deep and Gallagher up, we started playing a lot better. Maresca didn't do his homework? Enzo's a DLP and DLP only.

[NikkiCFC 8,300]

2 minutes ago, manpe said:

Poch already experimented with Enzo at 10 and it failed, why is he playing there again? As soon as Poch put him back deep and Gallagher up, we started playing a lot better. Maresca didn't do his homework? Enzo's a DLP and DLP only.

Actually our best football was with Enzo injured. 

[Vegetable 830]

52 minutes ago, manpe said:

Poch already experimented with Enzo at 10 and it failed, why is he playing there again?

He was listed as captain also, which I find quite intriguing after the Euro thing. Don't want to create any conspiracy, but given club was literally begging for this guy to come here, who knows what he has written into his contract. Maybe since he is half-godlike in the eyes of a lot of fans for whatever reason, this is also reflected in contract and his preferred position must be heard as someone pointed earlier that Enzo allegedly prefers to play more up front, despite it resulting in nothing.

Edited August 19, 2024 by Vegetable

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

22 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

He was listed as captain also, which I find quite intriguing after the Euro thing. Don't want to create any conspiracy, but given club was literally begging for this guy to come here, who knows what he has written into his contract. Maybe since he is half-godlike in the eyes of a lot of fans for whatever reason, this is also reflected in contract and his preferred position must be heard as someone pointed earlier that Enzo allegedly prefers to play more up front, despite it resulting in nothing.

I desperately hope that is not true. He really is not that good and absolutely useless as 10.  When he is not giving it his all and putting his body on the line like he did at the Wc, he really is just an average player tbh. Neither his technique, nor his athleticism nor his football iq are anywhere close to that of a 100m player. 

[IMissEden 21]

40 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

He was listed as captain also, which I find quite intriguing after the Euro thing. Don't want to create any conspiracy, but given club was literally begging for this guy to come here, who knows what he has written into his contract. Maybe since he is half-godlike in the eyes of a lot of fans for whatever reason, this is also reflected in contract and his preferred position must be heard as someone pointed earlier that Enzo allegedly prefers to play more up front, despite it resulting in nothing.

He’s resulted plenty for a team with Messi - if he wasn’t good enough he wouldn’t have played. His Benfica stint while brief was dominant. In both cases, he has a proper midfield. The issue here is, people don’t properly assess his midfield partners, and so think the onus is on him to provide the support that is needed in place first for such players to be creative assessors without repercussion. To simplify and not be a twitter idiot, DM, CM, CAM —- whether he is CAM or CM or DLP, you have to have destroyers alongside him, who recycle possession, with cool heads. Caicedo is not exactly that. Lavia is not that at all. In which context, can Enzo actually do whatever fiction is in the air yet to be done. When there are different players alongside him. Don’t misprofile him. Fabregas would be shit in this side, Pirlo would be ran over, Kroos would get similar statements made. Greatness struggles to come through when burdened with anxiety or stress. The environment is the issue, dynamics are the issue. Not the player. 
 

What this club fails to understand is that most players teetering between very good, and great, need a great coach. Ancelotti to Pep would have him looking like he was, and should further be. So too with most players we have now, who won’t hit their heights here, as usual. 
 

How many times can players be great everywhere, shit in this obviously shit environment, and still get sweeping assessments made in that very context. How many times want the great players out, mistaking them for being the issue, as opposed to the absolute garbage either side of them week in week out. It harms their abilities. Have seen all these takes before re De Bruyne re Havertz re xyz majority of fanbase cannot properly assess whatsoever even if give it a full day off to try. Players particularly detailed why they’re one of the ones, by reputable people. Written off like kids by kids with no contextual considerations re the nuances that determine success, and determine good football. Way more than is ever touched on among fans. 
 

I’ll enjoy him playing actual football whenever he is lucky enough to join a football club🙃

Edited August 19, 2024 by IMissEden

[manpe 10,861]

38 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

He was listed as captain also, which I find quite intriguing after the Euro thing. Don't want to create any conspiracy, but given club was literally begging for this guy to come here, who knows what he has written into his contract. Maybe since he is half-godlike in the eyes of a lot of fans for whatever reason, this is also reflected in contract and his preferred position must be heard as someone pointed earlier that Enzo allegedly prefers to play more up front, despite it resulting in nothing.

Not allegedly, Poch himself said that Enzo asked him to play higher up. He probably thinks he can score and assist more higher up the pitch, but he can't shoot the ball to save his life. Maresca, the yes-man he is, will probably bend over to every request. Making him captain was a joke too, no wonder many believe Chelsea is a racist club.

[IMissEden 21]

Check his goals for Argentina 🤥, Benfica😔, did anyone actually watch games of his outside of when he joined BlueCo lol. Identify what is there please. Profile him correctly please. Ahead of a season wherein Havertz will have many eat their words. Both born to score. Both like Bambi on ice here but loved everywhere else. 
 

He was a big goal threat every time on the edge of the box for Argentina and for Benfica. When central, he was Galladog. Longer post above re environment. Watch Nkunku join same boat. These are people, not machines. With the most chaotic environment in top level football, you need more, not less, considerations re psychology. We have less than ever both internally and as a fanbase. Issues won’t be fixed, or learned from. Despite this happening over, and over, and over again. Literally the Majority of players this fanbase has wanted out over the years has been oh oops within 2 yrs. They’d never have made it here. Because of here. Not because of them. The club is in a dire state. Not a slight dip. It effects different people differently, from how things are organised, to rushed, to considered not worthwhile. Average players are easier to go under the radar. They stay, average. Better players will show you higher, or lower extremes. That is part and parcel of being different to average players. You aren’t going to do well with them. Neymar wouldn’t, Ronaldo wouldn’t. For a top team, those players are perfect. For Crystal Palace they are not. We are closer to crystal palace. Why would someone like Enzo work among all this. There is no cohesion. Influencers have fed a misframe that balance is there. There isn’t one defensive midfielder in the squad. Reference the Saudi league for a better understanding of how this team is built all wrong, and how it effects those previously considered among the best players in the world. The environment and the balance, two different things, there and here, are the same ilk, with the same result. You cannot expect semblance of what should be happening under the ethos of BlueCo or inexperience of top level performance tied to the board. How is this team built any different to a random Saudi team. They, over there, have more experience - from players, to coaches. What plagues the good players there plagues the ones here, yet here not got one set of experienced hands. Baffling that the players who most embody the game, down tools, while the guys going through the motions, keep doing that nice and fine. There are levels. Need to better understand so many nuances, all fans. Beyond legs and what’s todays tactico. What is the structure. Is it a functional one. No. Ergo. 

Edited August 19, 2024 by IMissEden

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 minute ago, IMissEden said:

Check his goals for Argentina 🤥, did anyone actually watch games of his outside of when he joined BlueCo lol 

Goals for Argentina? You mean all mammoth 4 of them, 2 of which coming against the mighty forces of El Salvador and Curacao ?

Face it, Enzo is one of the worst attackers in the squad and one of the least suitable years to ever fill that no. 10 role in club history. You could play bettinelli there and he would probably score more

[IMissEden 21]

Hearing talk of Mikel saying too much. Going to go listen now, and bet my life savings, this professional footballer revered by many, an expert of his role, who played with the best players of all time year after year, will be echoing what I said. Checking now. 
 

edit

He thinks the issues are structure, player misprofiling, ethos, squad holes still not filled. Glad to be on same page as Mikel and not 1000 twitter teens parroting what they see others say 

Any microscope on Enzo, is conceding to being reactionary, as any discussion is only following the influencer twitter crowds, or conceding ignorant, in not seeing put the cart ahead of the horse is not the right way to assess where things are. The last thing needing picked at is Enzo. Which again, is not a reaction of eyes to field, but eyes to social media. 

Edited August 19, 2024 by IMissEden

[IMissEden 21]

35 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Goals for Argentina? You mean all mammoth 4 of them, 2 of which coming against the mighty forces of El Salvador and Curacao ?

Face it, Enzo is one of the worst attackers in the squad and one of the least suitable years to ever fill that no. 10 role in club history. You could play bettinelli there and he would probably score more

Just say you didn’t see the goals, and probably only saw one after my comment. Learn how to profile players. They’re pretty much all the same goal, and a very impressive one. Learn more about what emphasises / nullifies that type of play, that he continues to give Argentina, and will go back to whenever free. Re, nonsense about why would he ask to be deployed up high. People don’t even understand the context of the player they’re supposedly talking / parroting, about. 
 

Next consider player development after diving deeper into how to profile players. If you haven’t already, or don’t want to, how is this a serious convo right now. From where this confidence of assessing players. What is your track record. 

Edited August 19, 2024 by IMissEden

[IMissEden 21]

yesterday. Use your ears, or eyes. I don’t mind. It’s easy to miss things when all the crowds of parrots are parroting something. 

[King Kante 1,643]

2 hours ago, manpe said:

Poch already experimented with Enzo at 10 and it failed, why is he playing there again? As soon as Poch put him back deep and Gallagher up, we started playing a lot better. Maresca didn't do his homework? Enzo's a DLP and DLP only.

It is because Caicedo is being protected. He shouldn't be in the starting line-up with Lavia back but they want him crowbarred into the side because he cost £120m.

[YorkshireBlue 3,268]

13 minutes ago, King Kante said:

It is because Caicedo is being protected. He shouldn't be in the starting line-up with Lavia back but they want him crowbarred into the side because he cost £120m.

I'd rather caicedo and lavia, watch the highlights Enzo fucked 3 decent chances yesterday, not to mention lavia and caicedo have more of a connection than caicedo and Enzo had in a full season. Every one says caicedo is the problem but when Enzo was injured we went on a 7 game win streak 🤔 but let's continue with caicedo is the problem narrative.