Chelsea 6-0 Everton

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

Not really sure why Matt Law has become so toxic towards Chelsea. I know he often got inside information when Roman owned the team, but he has kept getting more negative since the team was sold.

 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

5 hours ago, lucio said:

Designated penalty taker should be crystal clear from the start of every game, this is Sunday league stuff. Shocking from poch 

5 hours ago, King Kante said:

Exactly I actually blame Poch more than the players. 

🤣

Wow did you guys listen to any of the stuff after the game? Or we just throwing shit and hoping it sticks? 

He basically said after the game that all the players knew who the designated penalty taker was?

I mean is it really Poch’s fault Jackson and Noni acted like selfish bellends? Ate blame the guy for things he is directly responsible for but not for Noni and Nico going against something that has been established all season.

I mean why would it not be clear to anybody, yet alone his team mates, that Cole who has scored 8 from 8 this season from the spot, is the designated penalty taker? Are you both really going to say its Poch’s fault as opposed to the two lads who caused the scuffle?

[lucio 5,418]

3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

🤣

Wow did you guys listen to any of the stuff after the game? Or we just throwing shit and hoping it sticks? 

He basically said after the game that all the players knew who the designated penalty taker was?

I mean is it really Poch’s fault Jackson and Noni acted like selfish bellends? Ate blame the guy for things he is directly responsible for but not for Noni and Nico going against something that has been established all season.

I mean why would it not be clear to anybody, yet alone his team mates, that Cole who has scored 8 from 8 this season from the spot, is the designated penalty taker? Are you both really going to say its Poch’s fault as opposed to the two lads who caused the scuffle?

If that’s true he should have subbed them both off. 
either they thought the taker wasn’t set or they they tried to undermine Palmer and Poch in which case they should both have come off immediately 

there wouldn’t be this uncertainty under a real coach , nor would the players dare cause trouble like that 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

57 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

🤣

Wow did you guys listen to any of the stuff after the game? Or we just throwing shit and hoping it sticks? 

He basically said after the game that all the players knew who the designated penalty taker was?

I mean is it really Poch’s fault Jackson and Noni acted like selfish bellends? Ate blame the guy for things he is directly responsible for but not for Noni and Nico going against something that has been established all season.

I mean why would it not be clear to anybody, yet alone his team mates, that Cole who has scored 8 from 8 this season from the spot, is the designated penalty taker? Are you both really going to say its Poch’s fault as opposed to the two lads who caused the scuffle?

I believe what Palmer says much much more than what Poch says. After the game Palmer was interviewed by the crew at USA network. They wanted to know if the players knew before the game that he was the designated penalty kicker? Palmer's reply was..."Well we all know now." I do not think for a second that Poch laid down that there is a designated penalty kicker and now that he is recieving heat from the press, he is scrambling with his story.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

27 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I believe what Palmer says much much more than what Poch says. After the game Palmer was interviewed by the crew at USA network. They wanted to know if the players knew before the game that he was the designated penalty kicker? Palmer's reply was..."Well we all know now." I do not think for a second that Poch laid down that there is a designated penalty kicker and now that he is recieving heat from the press, he is scrambling with his story.

Oh for fuck sake.

Ok sure Palmer has taken what 8 or 9 pens this season but its somehow still not crystal clear that he is the designated penalty taker? Be like saying Jorginho or Hazard weren’t the designated penalty takers in previous seasons gone by 🤔

You don’t let someone take 8 or 9 penalties in a season if they are not the designated penalty taker. I mean do you honestly believe that every time we get a penalty, the players are just deciding who takes it in the moment? And coincidentally it always seems to be Cole 😂?

1 hour ago, lucio said:

If that’s true he should have subbed them both off. 
either they thought the taker wasn’t set or they they tried to undermine Palmer and Poch in which case they should both have come off immediately 

there wouldn’t be this uncertainty under a real coach , nor would the players dare cause trouble like that 

Sure he could of subbed them or fined them or done whatever but he has publicly slammed them. It’s so clear the players themselves should shoulder the blame. Not the manager. 

How is there any uncertainty? Palmer has taken the most penalties for us this season and hasn’t missed one yet. If anything it should be pretty blatantly obvious to everyone inside and on the outside of the club that he is the designated penalty taker… or he wouldn’t have taken so many. I mean how are people struggling to grasp this?

I get Poch hasn’t done particularly well but theres only so much we can blame him for. What he said about this situation and the players not thinking as a collective was bang on the money.

Edited April 16, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

6 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Oh for fuck sake.

Ok sure Palmer has taken what 8 or 9 pens this season but its somehow still not clear that he is the designated penalty taker? Be like saying Jorginho or Hazard weren’t the designated penalty takers in previous seasons gone by 🤔

You don’t let someone take 8 or 9 penalties in a season if their not the designated penalty taker. End of story.

Sure he could of subbed them or fined them or done whatever but he has publicly slammed them. It’s so clear the players themselves should shoulder the blame. Not the manager.

How is there any uncertainty? Palmer has taken the most penalties for us this season and hasn’t missed one yet.

If anything it should be pretty blatantly obvious to everyone inside and on the outside of the club that Palmer is the designated penalty taker… how are people struggling to grasp this?

Two games ago Poch was asked directly if he has set penalty kicker in Palmer, his reply was, "I let the lads decide who takes the penalties". So as of two games ago, he didn't have a set player. Only after the bad optics is he now saying he does. I am not impressed at all by Poch. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Just now, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Two games ago Poch was asked directly if he has set penalty kicker in Palmer, his reply was, "I let the lads decide who takes the penalties". So as of two games ago, he didn't have a set player. Only after the bad optics is he now saying he does. I am not impressed at all by Poch. 

And if thats his approach and Cole has been taking them all? Is it still not clear that they've decided he is the one to take them?

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

And if thats his approach and Cole has been taking them all? Is it still not clear that they've decided he is the one to take them?

Sterling took one of Palmer recently? And this is not first time Madueke/Jackson are sneaking around. It's weird. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

9 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Sterling took one of Palmer recently? And this is not first time Madueke/Jackson are sneaking around. It's weird. 

I would like to think after the Sterling one they allocated a designated taker but even before that Palmer had taken 5 of the 8 penalties we had gotten prior to that. It certainly looks that way because Palmer has also taken every penalty since when he has been on the pitch.

Madueke and Jackson both making a sideshow of the best performance of the season was an egotistical thing. Dele Alli nailed it in a oner, they didn’t try take the ball off him in the game against Man United when the pressure was on. Pair of them are average players with poor mentalities. 

Edited April 16, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

That just could not stop it... Even after the pen.

 

 

[lucio 5,418]

2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

That just could not stop it... Even after the pen.

 

 

They are scum and trash players , sell both for peanuts 

[lluubbeenn 173]

This is getting out of control. I don't give a shit about this penalty at 4/5-0. We battered a prem team for the first time since the Saints 2 years ago. First time this has happened with our more or less new squad. There is some light at the end of the tunnel. Everton may be shit, but they are not that bad. We made them look that bad. 

And all we talk about is some stupid argument, that will be easily resolved in the dressing room. I love the mentality Palmer posses and pray everyday he does not let the English media get to his head. COYB!

[Strike 7,490]

10 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Two games ago Poch was asked directly if he has set penalty kicker in Palmer, his reply was, "I let the lads decide who takes the penalties". So as of two games ago, he didn't have a set player. Only after the bad optics is he now saying he does. I am not impressed at all by Poch. 

To be fair, his reaction post Everton game has been spot on. 

[King Kante 1,643]

12 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

🤣

Wow did you guys listen to any of the stuff after the game? Or we just throwing shit and hoping it sticks? 

He basically said after the game that all the players knew who the designated penalty taker was?

I mean is it really Poch’s fault Jackson and Noni acted like selfish bellends? Ate blame the guy for things he is directly responsible for but not for Noni and Nico going against something that has been established all season.

I mean why would it not be clear to anybody, yet alone his team mates, that Cole who has scored 8 from 8 this season from the spot, is the designated penalty taker? Are you both really going to say its Poch’s fault as opposed to the two lads who caused the scuffle?

As @lucio says if that is true, he should've subbed them off and he should've done the same with Sterling against Leicester. The reason why that happened if because we have a young team being guided my a manger who doesn't have authority. Fair enough for it to maybe happen once - Sterling - but this also happened in the Utd game with Noni trying to take the second one. This has been going on and he doesn't have the clout with the players to sort it out. 

If these were experienced pros, I would maybe give him more of a benefit of a doubt - as you would then say the players should know better - but these are kids. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,317]

We had a strong captain for13 years, and this wouldnt have happened.  Madueke can be forgiven as he thought the penalty was for his foul, but Jackson has a bit of a 'start a fight in an empty room' about him.

End of the day its not important in the scheme of things, shows a competitive spirit.

 

[Duppy Conqueror 1,537]

There was no doubt who the designated penalty taker was in real pressure moments like the games against Man U and City.didnt see anyone fighting to take it off Palmer then.but padding their stats when already 4 nil up, oh they want to be "heroic" then..

 

 

 

[lucio 5,418]

2 minutes ago, Duppy Conqueror said:

There was no doubt who the designated penalty taker was in real pressure moments like the games against Man U and City.didnt see anyone fighting to take it off Palmer then.but padding their stats when already 4 nil up, oh they want to be "heroic" then..

 

 

 

Madueke is ultimate stat padder, will do nothing for months before scoring vs Norwich in the league cup. I’d sell him for £5m

[Johnnyeye 7,510]

On 16/04/2024 at 04:29, Vesper said:

Azpi would have walked away, lolol

he was so non confrontational with our side

i keep thinking about that Sarri and Kepa debacle in the COC final in 2019, Azpi was awful as a captain that day, he did fuck all to solve the problem, Terry would never have allowed that shit to take place. I have a gut feeling if Caballero came on for Kepa we would have won the pen shootout.

[Muzchap 8,966]

On 17/04/2024 at 10:33, Fulham Broadway said:

We had a strong captain for13 years, and this wouldnt have happened.  Madueke can be forgiven as he thought the penalty was for his foul, but Jackson has a bit of a 'start a fight in an empty room' about him.

End of the day its not important in the scheme of things, shows a competitive spirit.

 

Yup we need another Ballack or Terry and quickly. 

To be fair to Connor, thought he did OK and had a good game. What he lacks in top quality skill, he makes up for (IMHO) with sheer grit, determination and leaves nothing on the pitch. He could step up, if the manager backed him to be like Terry or Ballack. He has the mentality, just needs the confidence. 

[Johnnyeye 7,510]

8 hours ago, Muzchap said:

Yup we need another Ballack or Terry and quickly. 

To be fair to Connor, thought he did OK and had a good game. What he lacks in top quality skill, he makes up for (IMHO) with sheer grit, determination and leaves nothing on the pitch. He could step up, if the manager backed him to be like Terry or Ballack. He has the mentality, just needs the confidence. 

Although 2 very different characters, it helps that Connor is from the academy, just like Terry was, so he has a more deeper connection with the club. I agree with your points

Edited April 19, 2024 by Johnnyeye