Man City 1-1 Chelsea

[Blue Armour 4,443]

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

43 minutes ago, gdlk said:

Theres a not written rule in football - when the team is doing well or good, you dont make changes! 

With subs Poch gave the chance city to calm down, especially their back line and to start bringing more pressure on us, thats why and we conceded. 

There is no such a thing esp not after the 5 subs what that did to the game's intensity. No football game end with the same starting XI these days.

Players get tired, which can be a real risk against a team that play so wide and quick as City does.
The home team make changes to seek the result and apply pressure in the final minutes -- city can often push the opposition into a half-line for some time.

Crazy to criticize the manager after we get a point against City away from home. Are we now suggesting our roster IS REMOTELY similar to City's? really? Shall we go into names of the starting XI and their freaking bench for a reality check?

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, gdlk said:

Theres a not written rule in football - when the team is doing well or good, you dont make changes! 

With subs Poch gave the chance city to calm down, especially their back line and to start bringing more pressure on us, thats why and we conceded. 

Maybe he spotted who looked tired.
But why Challobah after such a long absence in such crucial circumstances ?

[robsblubot 3,595]

13 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Maybe he spotted who looked tired.
But why Challobah after such a long absence in such crucial circumstances ?

Suspect physicality and height to handle high balls as he did in his very first intervention?

Which of these players do you think should have been used in the dying moments of the match?
Bettinelli, Gilchrist, Samuels-Smith, Harrison, Madueke, Mudryk

Edited February 17, 2024 by robsblubot

[cosmicway 1,333]

34 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Suspect physicality and height to handle high balls as he did in his very first intervention?

Which of these players do you think should have been used in the dying moments of the match?
Bettinelli, Gilchrist, Samuels-Smith, Harrison, Madueke, Mudryk

Mudryk and Madueke could give them a run but they 'd have to get the ball to do that.
Rather Gilchrist.
I did n't like the way they could carry the ball from the midfield unopposed to right inside our box.
I call this Alamo, not defensive play.
 

[robsblubot 3,595]

38 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Mudryk and Madueke could give them a run but they 'd have to get the ball to do that.
Rather Gilchrist.
I did n't like the way they could carry the ball from the midfield unopposed to right inside our box.
I call this Alamo, not defensive play.
 

Mudryk and Madueke aren't tidy enough in their game (right now or ever); there would be a high risk of them getting pick pocketed and ruining everything. The others are just too young, too inexperienced, to play in a game like this. Try them elsewhere first.

You did not like the fact City was unopposed when moving the football, and I don't like it either. The difference here is that I blame the club, not the manger for this. I look at this absolutely ridiculous bench and blame the club.

I for one cannot imagine other mangers doing anything different. I mean the very best managers wouldn't come here anyway.
Jose would've parked the bus way sooner eh.

Edited February 17, 2024 by robsblubot

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, robsblubot said:

Mudryk and Madueke aren't tidy enough in their game (right now or ever); there would be a high risk of them getting pick pocketed and ruining everything. The others are just too young, too inexperienced, to play in a game like this. Try them elsewhere first.

You did not like the fact City was unopposed when moving the football, and I don't like it either. The difference here is that I blame the club, not the manger for this. I look at this absolutely ridiculous bench and blame the club.

I for one cannot imagine other mangers doing anything different. I mean the very best managers wouldn't come here anyway.
Jose would've parked the bus way sooner eh.

Man to man, like Tuchel.
We scored in the first half in that match and kept the 1-0.
City had to try to reach our half - which they did but not every minute.

[bluesman2610 1,417]

Just leave this here

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[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

1 hour ago, cosmicway said:

Man to man, like Tuchel.
We scored in the first half in that match and kept the 1-0.
City had to try to reach our half - which they did but not every minute.

You're forgetting the fact that we had experience all over the pitch and the team was well-drilled in how to get through a low scoring game. 

Right now we don't have Rudiger, James, Azpi, Kovacic/Jorginho/Kante, Christensen...

Our team is decent enough and you can see they are keen on putting up a fight but we just don't have the quality to see out 90+ minutes against a top 6 PL side at the moment. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

4 hours ago, robsblubot said:

Suspect physicality and height to handle high balls as he did in his very first intervention?

Which of these players do you think should have been used in the dying moments of the match?
Bettinelli, Gilchrist, Samuels-Smith, Harrison, Madueke, Mudryk

I feel like Gilchrist could have come on...he's been playing that defensive cameo role for a number of games this season.  As the saying goes, if you don't play the youngsters how do you know they are good enough? 

Like when Klopp played Bradley against us, no-one expected him to be the standout player of the game and yet by the end of the game, he was toying with us. 

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 minute ago, Reddish-Blue said:

You're forgetting the fact that we had experience all over the pitch and the team was well-drilled in how to get through a low scoring game. 

Right now we don't have Rudiger, James, Azpi, Kovacic/Jorginho/Kante, Christensen...

Our team is decent enough and you can see they are keen on putting up a fight but we just don't have the quality to see out 90+ minutes against a top 6 PL side at the moment. 

Parking the bus means the opposition are not allowed to create chances.
Not the battle of Gravia inn.
We played 11 men in the box like third division side, not like a mid table premiership team.
We played like Newcastle who were 2-0 ahead and lost to City.

[King Kante 1,643]

3 hours ago, bluesman2610 said:

Just leave this here

Two things. 1) He did get scared. They sub's and tactics in the second half were pure Dyche. 2) We play one game a week. If he cannot train the team to be fit enough in those circumstances, something is wrong. 

I say this as someone who has defended Poch this season on multiple occasions. 

[lucio 5,418]

Yeh city just played a European away game. Using fatigue for an excuse is pure cope. 

People trying to celebrate throwing away 2 points late on... Brighton mentality 

[Mário César 1,278]

2 hours ago, lucio said:

Yeh city just played a European away game. Using fatigue for an excuse is pure cope. 

People trying to celebrate throwing away 2 points late on... Brighton mentality 

exactly 

its good but now its time to move on

[Seymop 90]

I for one would have happily taken a point before kick-off . We played with heart and Disasi, who I had written off as bang average, had a great game . We did however get pushed further and further back in the last 20 minutes and I don’t think taking two forward players off and replacing them with defenders helped - especially as neither Chalobah orCasedei have had any minutes recently. We lost any outlet and trying to play 20 minutes in our own penalty area against the firepower and skill of City was always a big ask. But it is was still a point many of us didn’t expect !!

[Strike 7,491]

5 hours ago, King Kante said:

Two things. 1) He did get scared. They sub's and tactics in the second half were pure Dyche. 2) We play one game a week. If he cannot train the team to be fit enough in those circumstances, something is wrong. 

I say this as someone who has defended Poch this season on multiple occasions. 

To match this City team, the boys were pressing flat out for the first 60 mins. it was clear that changes were needed and although I am not a fan of the Chalobah substitution I don't think it was about training the team to be fit enough. They would be spent in any case trying to keep up with this City team. There is a huge difference between the rosters 

[bluesman2610 1,417]

You could clearly see before sterling Jackson and Palmer were subbed they weren’t tracking back like they had been and were visibly tired. I know you guys are disappointed in the draw but re-watch before the subs you can see why he made the changes in tactics.

Edited February 18, 2024 by bluesman2610

[Vytis33 1,272]

Rewatched a bit of the game Disasi and Gusto were immense.  I always have to remind myself that Gusto is only 20 years old too.  Great bit of business there it looks like

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Opposite to many, I would still count this as one point won. True, we could or should have been 3-0 up at HT. But then again we have been wasting these kind of chances for years now and Haaland usually has not, so it was probably fair to go with a lead into the last 20 mins. But honestly we were never gonna keep a clean sheet vs City of all teams. They have so many quality players to bail them out when things are going against them.

Poch clearly had the team well prepared for once. Palmer, Jackson, Sterling were indeed visibly tired. Subbing on Trev for his comeback was a head scratcher but his fitness has nothing to do with the equaliser. 
 

Edited February 18, 2024 by Magic Lamps