Newcastle 4-1 Chelsea

[Mário César 1,257]

our board ruined our club

how we spend so much and have a weaker squad than the squads of the last few years

shambolic management 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

12 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

I only hope that this was the expectation from the board going into the season.

I.e. that a 1 billion spend on largely unproven players and moving out experienced squad members, was a calculated move with the understanding that there might be a short term hit to the teams on field performances. 

All the noise coming from the players camp, such as Enzo, indicate as such. i.e. the players were told its a long term project.

But whether this actually meant spending time out of top 6 and outside Europe, is another matter. 

If they actually had high expectations after this ludicrous spending, then I would really fear for the club under this admin.

That's what would put us in trouble with FFP. Not the allegations about past transactions under Roman.

We cannot afford to spend too much time outside of European competition. Simple as that. Sporting wise or financially.

Players will up sticks and move if we aren’t in European competition regularly thats the harsh reality of it. And our £1bn spend utilising amortisation will inevitably not be as well off if we don’t have this money coming in also.

Before with Roman, the lack of Europe was not an issue as the players, managers & fans always knew we would be back in and about sooner than later. Because that regime demanded it.

With this mob, who knows? I have no idea what we are gearing up for, every time I hear or read project/the 2030 thing I almost cringe because its as if we are already making excuses and know we are a million miles off it. You cannot spend £1bn in 3 windows and then turn around and say we need 3 or 4 years to compete for the top 4, never mind win any trophies. It is simply unfeasible. I mean if we need to spend £1bn to simply become a top 6 team then we have done something wrong. Be it approach, the players we’ve signed etc…. Just wrong.

Been saying it for ages. The recruitment has been poor. Since day 1 of Boehly’s ownership. How much more money are these clowns Winstanley & Stewart going to waste? On players that won’t improve us right now as well as in the future? Arguably we need a total reset again in those positions. They’d be the first 2 I’d hold accountable. Things people have been saying for years such as we need a top GK, we need a top CB, we need a top CF, all 3 ready made to go, they neglectfully didn’t get any of them for whatever reason. Instead we got about 4 MF players all of the same profile. All of a similar age group. In the space of 2 windows. Lavia, Santos, Ugo? Why? Thats nearly £100m. And 2/3 of them will not have a long term career here more than likely because Enzo & Moises will be kept as they cost more than £100m and are ‘highly rated’ within the club. 

Edited November 25, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[lucio 5,418]

Club is done , imagine thinking we’d “turned a corner” after drawing our last game at home , conceding 4 in the process 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

10 minutes ago, lucio said:

Club is done , imagine thinking we’d “turned a corner” after drawing our last game at home , conceding 4 in the process 

The type of mistakes we made v City defensively we also made today. And at Arsenal. And Brentford etc. Far too easy.

Also I am slightly concerned with the playing style. We only really create opportunities from counter attacking and mistakes. In possession trying to break teams down we are still quite pitiful to watch still unless Cole or Raheem beay players 1 v 1.

What is the playing style? We are almost 6 months in and bar counter attacking, its not exactly clear to me what we are trying to do.

Everyone says about Poch and the high pressing and fitness levels from Southampton and Spurs but it doesn’t look like thats really settled in yet either.

Edited November 25, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[lucio 5,418]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

The type of mistakes we made v City defensively we also made today. And at Arsenal. And Brentford etc. Far too easy.

Also I am slightly concerned with the playing style. We only really create opportunities from counter attacking and mistakes. In possession trying to break teams down we are still quite pitiful to watch still unless Cole or Raheem beay players 1 v 1.

What is the playing style? We are almost 6 months in and bar counter attacking, its not exactly clear to me what we are trying to do.

Everyone says about Poch and the high pressing and fitness levels from Southampton and Spurs but it doesn’t look like thats really settled in yet either.

You’re right , I can’t see anything that defines who we are as a team , other than a bunch of young players thrown out there 

[Laylabelle 9,535]

1 hour ago, lucio said:

Club is done , imagine thinking we’d “turned a corner” after drawing our last game at home , conceding 4 in the process 

Tbf I thought we'd lose without scoring 4...

There is no point getting points from those games then having stupid moments in these. Don't expect much from Man U or even Everton tbh...you can't look at fixtures and think ooo have a chance there cause we don't seem to

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

We were rock solid defensively with Colwill Silva Disasi Gusto/Cucurella. 

Coincidently we started conceding tons of goals since James integration and Colwill losing LB spot for Cucurella. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

Nothing new here tbh. There isn't enough quality on the pitch to fight for top four. Team struggled for the entire match: could not control the ball well enough, and players got bullied at times. They were just so much better!

The team rise to the occasion when facing strong opposition, but you simply can't do that for the entire season. Aside from Sterling, there isn't another reliable (as in ready) attacking player in the squad. Pretty crazy when we consider the amount spent.

Regarding James, that is normal. A returning player has a cost, but it's one we need to pay to get him fit again.

[cosmicway 1,333]

3 hours ago, lucio said:

Club is done , imagine thinking we’d “turned a corner” after drawing our last game at home , conceding 4 in the process 

Nothing goes really well since Hazard left.
We won a CL but in retrospect this was one match, the one against City. The others were inferior and we did n't get to play Bayern.
Because look how last year we nearly made it again in the CL with Potter and Lampard and Real were lucky to eliminate us.
EPL is the hard competition and we are looking at the top teams with binos.
Maybe this year we are so far marginally better than last year, but this is a performence for Wolves-Everton-West Ham. Not for Chelsea.

[Mário César 1,257]

20 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Nothing goes really well since Hazard left.
We won a CL but in retrospect this was one match, the one against City. The others were inferior and we did n't get to play Bayern.
Because look how last year we nearly made it again in the CL with Potter and Lampard and Real were lucky to eliminate us.
EPL is the hard competition and we are looking at the top teams with binos.
Maybe this year we are so far marginally better than last year, but this is a performence for Wolves-Everton-West Ham. Not for Chelsea.

we can not say "nothing goes well" and not talk about UCl, that is the most important in club terms 

we were a very good side, but not excellent side since conte title and that was with hazard

2017 transfer market still hunt us and we made some mistakes but at least we were top4 side 

since RA sold the club, we are a mid table side, that is a lot worst 

Edited November 25, 2023 by Mário César

[Blue Armour 4,439]

2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

We were rock solid defensively with Colwill Silva Disasi Gusto/Cucurella. 

Coincidently we started conceding tons of goals since James integration and Colwill losing LB spot for Cucurella. 

Not really related to lineup alone.

We started playing better opposition in the last 3 games with Spurs, City and Newcastle. 

Our lack of defensive organization is being more exposed. Especially in setpieces.

Edited November 25, 2023 by Blue Armour

[cosmicway 1,333]

36 minutes ago, Mário César said:

we can not say "nothing goes well" and not talk about UCl, that is the most important in club terms 

we were a very good side, but not excellent side since conte title and that was with hazard

2017 transfer market still hunt us and we made some mistakes but at least we were top4 side 

since RA sold the club, we are a mid table side, that is a lot worst 

UCL is a knock out competition.
Something goes amiss and you are out. Remember Atvidabergs and Basel ?
But overall these Euro teams are inferior to the EPL teams. Take away the English clubs, Real Madrid-Bayern and possibly PSG, they are inferior.
The fact that we came very close to the final last year with Potter-Lamps as managers proves it.
There has been a decline and as Hazard was the no 2 player in the world (admitting the short one was the no 1) he was pulling as through but now we go by intuition.

[robsblubot 3,595]

7 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

We were rock solid defensively with Colwill Silva Disasi Gusto/Cucurella. 

Coincidently we started conceding tons of goals since James integration and Colwill losing LB spot for Cucurella. 

Like I said above, while I think we need to get James fit again, it was indeed a bit weird to start 2 players who are severely lacking match fitness in a game like this. It's easy now to look back in hindsight, but it was pretty obvious this match was going to be intense and physical.

[Bluepower777 36]

Ugochuchkwe is way way out of his depth in this league and why drop Disasi, Caceido, On the bench you also had Colwill, Maatsen, Cucerella was exposed once again too, a very poorly selected team defensively 

[Reddish-Blue 2,505]

5 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Not really related to lineup alone.

We started playing better opposition in the last 3 games with Spurs, City and Newcastle. 

Our lack of defensive organization is being more exposed. Especially in setpieces.

United and Everton must be delighted, knowing full well that our weakness is set pieces.   Wonder what the rate is for Maguire to score the winner against us

[Bluepower777 36]

Ugochuchkwe is way way out of his depth in this league and why drop Disasi, Caceido, On the bench you also had Colwill, Maatsen, a very poorly selected team defensively as everyone is saying, Cucurella was once again exposed, we need to sell this player urgently plus a couple more. On the attacking side we said hope they have their shooting boots on which once again they did not have, we can forgive Sterling but Jackson, Palmer, Gallagher and Reece who fancies himself as a dead ball expert were all very poor when it came to shots at goal. As stated we had a whole bunch of subs who are better equipped than those that started, I’m starting to worry about Potchetino but then again there’s noone else really available.

[Vesper 30,175]

5 hours ago, cosmicway said:

Atvidabergs

With a population of around 7,000, Åtvidaberg is the smallest town ever to bring home a Swedish league title.

 

Edited November 26, 2023 by Vesper

[Vytis33 1,270]

 

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

11 hours ago, Vytis33 said:

 

 

So everything is ok then. As if we won’t see anymore Newcastle esq performances this season. Brother is gaslighting. 
 

Been a liability all season but these half arse unprepared performances stem from the top. 

[milka 3,394]

Ted Lasso gutted our indentity for this  Salzburg module with kids from around the world .

From CL winner , FIFA World Cup winner to  mid table  club  . 1bn and our only top players are Silva , James and Sterling everything else is unproven. With the departure of Emma Hayes, this is our last world-class asset. These yankies  suicide this club with this kindergarten module . 

That's why they dont want Tuchel, Nagelsman , Luis Enrique they want development managers like Potter and Pochettino .  That`s why Vivell   quit this circus. 

 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2023 by milka