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1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Yet another person speaking out against Poch’s training methods. 
 

You have to think this has something to do with the injuries we are seeing. 
 

https://x.com/cfcdaily/status/1772996985538191522?s=46&t=IADWMMDWtMYMPFeimX1NoQ

I don’t know. For the past 18 months since the changes made by Boehly/Clearlake to the medical department, the injuries/recovery timelines have been absolutely ridiculous. Under Tuchel, Potter, Lampard and now Poch.

And even then, Poch has never a huge record of players getting injured constantly at any other club in his career either so wouldn’t see how that would start here given how fit his teams are usually (say usually because some of our mob in particular Enzo Fernandez, Axel Disasi, Reece James & Ben Chilwell when both have played, barely look like their fit enough to play Sunday league football never mind professional). 

It is ironic as well all the players that seem to be getting regular or big injured are guys with poor injury histories. 

Not sure whats in the tweet as been deleted. 

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3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

I don’t know. For the past 18 months since the changes made by Boehly/Clearlake to the medical department, the injuries/recovery timelines have been absolutely ridiculous. Under Tuchel, Potter, Lampard and now Poch.

And even then, Poch has never a huge record of players getting injured constantly at any other club in his career either so wouldn’t see how that would start here given how fit his teams are usually (say usually because some of our mob in particular Enzo Fernandez, Axel Disasi, Reece James & Ben Chilwell when both have played, barely look like their fit enough to play Sunday league football never mind professional). 

It is ironic as well all the players that seem to be getting regular or big injured are guys with poor injury histories. 

Not sure whats in the tweet as been deleted. 

Ricky Lambert speaking against Poch when he was managing at Southampton. All they did was run full intensity on training days after a match. 

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7 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Ricky Lambert speaking against Poch when he was managing at Southampton. All they did was run full intensity on training days after a match. 

Think the story was along the lines of Rickie Lambert and Jos Hooiveld went in after a training session and tried to get him to slacken up on the amount of running they were doing. In the end, he didn’t and actually made them run more the next time round. Which apparently “broke” Lambert - who then went on to play his best football of his career in the 18 months Poch was there.

If its that clip which was off from BBC, it has been thrown about twitter and Reddit very much as a stick to beat Poch with regarding these injuries, which is wrong.

Rickie Lambert later has gone on and still said countless times about how Poch was the best coach he’s ever worked with.

Aaron Lennon did try and say Poch’s training maybe was behind our poor start this season - but because our players wouldn’t be used to the intensity and load of it. Which says more about how far off it we were last season also with 3 different managers in terms of preparation. 

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18 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said:

regardless of the manager, the players are simply shit

Sad thing is you can't 100% blame individual players.

The whole squad is what is really shit.

The people who assembled a squad with so many young 20 year-old's, with very few leaders and experience to learn from, have basically made a team that is going to keep choking every now and again.

I've long been droning on during the past few months about how this team is extremely unlikely to finish above 8th place this season.

That seems to be the case so far.

My only hope is that in the next transfer window, after all the sales they (have to) make, they make a few smart, reasonably low transfer-fee, experienced signings, like a James Ward-Prowse for example. I think a few, quality, experienced players in different positions could elevate the squad and get more out of the younger players.

 

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4 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

The people who assembled a squad with so many young 20 year-old's, with very few leaders and experience to learn from, have basically made a team that is going to keep choking every now and again.

As so many have mentioned on this forum...how the F*ck did we let Kante, Jorginho and Kovacic leave in back to back windows? 

Very poor squad planning is the reason why we are mid-table right now.     Enzo-Caicedo may be a good pairing but I doubt we see the best of them till 2026/27

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2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

As so many have mentioned on this forum...how the F*ck did we let Kante, Jorginho and Kovacic leave in back to back windows? 

Very poor squad planning is the reason why we are mid-table right now.     Enzo-Caicedo may be a good pairing but I doubt we see the best of them till 2026/27

But when they were here people were slating them. Someone was talking about cashing in on Kante for about 4 years straight too. Maybe they work for the club 🤣

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12 hours ago, Laylabelle said:

So predictable! You just know it wasn't going to he straightforward and tbh lucky they did have 10! Probably would've lost to them if was 11. 

I do wonder what is being said in the HT team talks as we have no leaders in the dressing room and then you have Poch who hasn't won anything as a manager

Feel like we need an old school Conte approach to get the team fired up!  

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