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8 hours ago, Thor said:

I see a side devoid of tactical understanding - not talent. Talent is there. Yes, we are better. Take a look at the 2021 CL winning side.

We have Silva, Chilly, James from the CL team at the back. Missing Rudiger and Azpi. I think our backline isn't anywhere near as good. 

We have Caceido and Enzo in the middle of the park. Neither are as good as Kante (who is?) but both are better and more dynamic than Jorgi. 

Havertz, Werner and Mount were our front 3... You can tell me what you want, but I'd take Palmer, Nkunku/Jackson and Sterling over those 3 as far as talents. 

 

Aside from our defence - our team from the middle of the park up, is more talented. These guys are either dumb as bricks tactically, aren't being taught well, or there is a culture issue. 

I agree with those points, especially with what you mentioned about our defence and midfield.

IMO the midfield two of Enzo and Caicedo could have benefited immensely, playing along side an experienced midfielder like Kante for at least 1 or 2 seasons. We were too quick to ship our experienced CMs (Kante, Kovacic, & Jorginho) regardless of their fitness & form issues (Kante has had very little issue since moving in fact), just for the sake of profit.

I agree that in defense, we were screwed partially by the old board, that let go off Rudiger (which in turn worsened Tuchel's reign), but in the first season we recruited poorly. Fofana with a poor injury track record, and Koulibaly who, despite some underwhelming stats, was made a first choice CB on high pay. The mistake was not bringing in a quality experienced CB in the last summer window, despite knowing that Silva isn't likely to stick around.

 

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7 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

I agree with those points, especially with what you mentioned about our defence and midfield.

IMO the midfield two of Enzo and Caicedo could have benefited immensely, playing along side an experienced midfielder like Kante for at least 1 or 2 seasons. We were too quick to ship our experienced CMs (Kante, Kovacic, & Jorginho) regardless of their fitness & form issues (Kante has had very little issue since moving in fact), just for the sake of profit.

I agree that in defense, we were screwed partially by the old board, that let go off Rudiger (which in turn worsened Tuchel's reign), but in the first season we recruited poorly. Fofana with a poor injury track record, and Koulibaly who, despite some underwhelming stats, was made a first choice CB on high pay. The mistake was not bringing in a quality experienced CB in the last summer window, despite knowing that Silva isn't likely to stick around.

 

I thought Disasi was supposed to be the experienced signing as he's 25, not 22 and under like the rest of the CB's we have. 

Miss the days when we would make smart signings like Cahill, Ivanovic, Alex rather than splashing the cash on talented youngsters like Fofana. 

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8 Chelsea academy stars who could break through in 2024

https://www.givemesport.com/soccer-football-Chelsea-academy-stars-who-could-break-through/#ranking-factors

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Chelsea's academy has a plethora of talented young players eager to make the step up to Mauricio Pochettino's first team. The wealth of talent at the Argentine's disposal makes it pretty tricky to break into his set-up, but Alfie Gilchrist has shown it is possible. The 20-year-old defender has made seven senior appearances for the west Londoners and is clearly highly thought of by Pochettino.

With the Blues again faltering in the Premier League, having languished in mid-table for much of the 2023/24 campaign, it may present an opportunity for young players to make an impact in the senior team as they bid to improve on a disappointing last 18 months or so. The Blues have adopted a new transfer policy since Todd Boehly's takeover which has seen a number of promising young players recruited and given the chance to impress, and it appears academy players are included in that strategy, too, with the likes of Conor Gallagher now starring and becoming a key fixture of the midfield.

So, who will be the next academy player to graduate from Cobham? GIVEMESPORT takes a look at eight young Chelsea stars who could break through in 2024.

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

8 Chelsea academy stars who could break through in 2024

https://www.givemesport.com/soccer-football-Chelsea-academy-stars-who-could-break-through/#ranking-factors

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Chelsea's academy has a plethora of talented young players eager to make the step up to Mauricio Pochettino's first team. The wealth of talent at the Argentine's disposal makes it pretty tricky to break into his set-up, but Alfie Gilchrist has shown it is possible. The 20-year-old defender has made seven senior appearances for the west Londoners and is clearly highly thought of by Pochettino.

With the Blues again faltering in the Premier League, having languished in mid-table for much of the 2023/24 campaign, it may present an opportunity for young players to make an impact in the senior team as they bid to improve on a disappointing last 18 months or so. The Blues have adopted a new transfer policy since Todd Boehly's takeover which has seen a number of promising young players recruited and given the chance to impress, and it appears academy players are included in that strategy, too, with the likes of Conor Gallagher now starring and becoming a key fixture of the midfield.

So, who will be the next academy player to graduate from Cobham? GIVEMESPORT takes a look at eight young Chelsea stars who could break through in 2024.

Should be titled “8 Chelsea starlets who could be sold in 2024”

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27 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Should be titled “8 Chelsea starlets who could be sold in 2024”

You’d really sell Angelo , Santos and casedei?

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7 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

I thought Disasi was supposed to be the experienced signing as he's 25, not 22 and under like the rest of the CB's we have. 

Miss the days when we would make smart signings like Cahill, Ivanovic, Alex rather than splashing the cash on talented youngsters like Fofana. 

Disasi is experienced, but he is lacking in quality. Unless he undergoes an Alex or Rudiger type evolution, I don't know what more we can expect.

Signings like Alex, Ivanovic & Azpi were super shrewd. 

We probably should have pushed for Skriniar in that window of last season 

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46 minutes ago, lucio said:

You’d really sell Angelo , Santos and casedei?

No, he probably means that the current regime see any Cobham product as pure profit.

Raise their value and ship them out. Regardless of whether you could improve the  Chelsea first 11.

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52 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

No, he probably means that the current regime see any Cobham product as pure profit.

Raise their value and ship them out. Regardless of whether you could improve the  Chelsea first 11.

Misread could as should , apologies 

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3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Should be titled “8 Chelsea starlets who could be sold in 2024”

The article itself doesn't make sense....Angelo, Casadei and Santos didn't come through the academy, they were all bought for good sums of money....as for the rest of the list, Humphreys is the only one that could actually break into the side next season. 

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2 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

No, he probably means that the current regime see any Cobham product as pure profit.

Raise their value and ship them out. Regardless of whether you could improve the  Chelsea first 11.

If we are buying youngsters for 15+ million, where is the profit going to come from?   Clubs aren't going to line up to buy our reserve players for 30+ million unless they are showing serious potential.   That only works for academy products as the transfer fee is pure profit. 

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We are not Brighton to develop players for 2-3 years not to mention that  with this billion , on paper we should have been in a fight for the title with right managment , not  with this clueless yankies  .

Even with Abramovich, with whom titles were a daily occurrence and there was no place for youngsters, even then there were players who was kids  and better(Abraham, Mount,Tomori,James)  than those who are bought now . Mid owners, mid managment , mid coach, mid players mid everywhere in the club .

They will roar if win Carabao Cup or anything with the club in next 10 years  while Abramovich fired managers after double season or CL win that was the level at the time .

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To be fair in think the first season of Arteta was very bad. There was some games that had good moments but it was bad in general that first season. Then second season improve. 

I envision the same happening with Poch and the team. 

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13 minutes ago, Fernando said:

To be fair in think the first season of Arteta was very bad. There was some games that had good moments but it was bad in general that first season. Then second season improve. 

I envision the same happening with Poch and the team. 

Arteta is clear of poch , he still won a trophy too 

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33 minutes ago, lucio said:

Arteta is clear of poch , he still won a trophy too 

Same argument apply first season had a lot of up and downs and there was some games that showed promises. Similar here as well. That's why I see something similar by n next season, a bigger improvement then this season. 

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1 hour ago, Fernando said:

To be fair in think the first season of Arteta was very bad. There was some games that had good moments but it was bad in general that first season. Then second season improve. 

I envision the same happening with Poch and the team. 

Intresting look at the table that year...they lost 10 games in total. We've lost 9 already lol. Hopefully it'll all come together...

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12 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

We will also!

Maybe in a few years time..our cup rehearsal the other night didn't send out confidence signs...be different circumstances but can't see us playing any different. Not at Liverpools level. Be nice if did surprise however.. maybe they can lose a few players. 

 

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