The Next Manager?

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16 minutes ago, Cosmin said:

Yes, but it's kind of weird to say that Pellegrini underachieved by not being able to eliminate Barcelona (even though he tried) and at the same time to defend by any means Mourinho, who was scared to seal the deal against a 10-men PSG team. That was a huge embarassement for us. If you don't believe me, go back to that game's thread. Or check the media. Or ask basically anyone. I am sorry, but I can't see how you can defend that. 

Jose certainly defended it 

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City didn't live up to their reputation in Europe, but no way this is an embarrassment either, as some of you suggest. They are always in pot 2 so this means they are bound to be drawn against a top team in their group. Also the fact that they had to face Barcelona in the knockout stages two years in a row didn't help either. And they played decent football in those legs. Unlike Mourinho's Chelsea that has gone out against a 10 men Paris SG and Atletico Madrid. And I don't even want to remember the away games in Paris and Madrid in which we barely touched the ball.

And this plan B thing is overrated - Carlo didn't have a plan B either, still most of us Chelsea fans love him and would have him here in a blink. Mourinho? What was his plan B? Three at the back, Ivanovic the centre forward and Kennedy as a wing back? 

 

 

[Essien19 1,415]

Yes, but it's kind of weird to say that Pellegrini underachieved by not being able to eliminate Barcelona (even though he tried) and at the same time to defend by any means Mourinho, who was scared to seal the deal against a 10-men PSG team. That was a huge embarassement for us. If you don't believe me, go back to that game's thread. Or check the media. Or ask basically anyone. I am sorry, but I can't see how you can defend that. 

Last year wasn't his first year in Manchester, it's always been this way in Europe, when the big boys come knocking and need a result, it's game over for bluemoon.

You can lose, but their way to bottle it is horrible, can't create good goal scoring opportunies, despite of a multi-million Euros squad!

No chance whatsoever.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8P9fg6Eu9Bw

Jose made mistakes, but he got the better of an elite team, PSG, despite having a poorer squad.

The game against Bayern Munich in the Supercup was very close, that's how i want to see it, not getting destroyed like Pellegrini.

When had the media ever something positive to say about Chelsea?

I don't give a flying fuck, i have my own opinion, maybe in here the majority see it differently.

I respect different views, but i don't have to change mine.

[MefiX19 1,092]

I thing Pellegrini rumors are fake! THey come from Metro and they are saying now that he will sign for Man U. I don't really know much about Conte, but i would love to see Sampoali guy here. Fresh blood into Europe, and maybe a new gem? He won Copa America for the first time in Chille's history and they play some fantastic football! I don't want to see Pellegrini here, he is not a great manager imo. yes they can crush small sides and big ones as well, but he is too inconsistent. Koeman and Pottchetino would be amazing as well, especially Pottchetino, i love him, but he is Spurs manager and Spurs dont sell players to us...

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5 hours ago, Cosmin said:

Pellegrini is a decent manager. His record is great and City were always a very positive team under him. Way better than under Mancini anyways. I don't understand why people hate him so much. I wouldn't say no to the guy, he's decent after all. And he's a gentleman. Remember when our beloved Mourinho was leading 1-0 against "Pellegrino" on Etihad, we parked the bus even though it was 10 vs. 11, but "Pellegrino" didn't give up and the game finished 1-1? Well, that's that attitude that I'd like to see at Chelsea. 

You can say that he could've done better at City, but you can't say that his team was not entertaining or a lot more attractive to watch than Mourinho's Chelsea. Not to mention his achievements at Malaga specially. He almost took them to the UCL semifinals. Malaga, people. 

I invite you to read this article. Nice stats.

This is Chelsea we shouldn't settle for 'descent'.. i hear you on the other stuff you say though

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May I ask about Unai Emery? Is he good?

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So Sampaoli is the one who won the company America with Chile. Plays very attractive, attacking football. Style seems to be that his teams defend with a high line and pressing furiously as a team, with past vertical football over the simple desire to have possession. Can anyone add anything or correct me on anything? The main issue seems to be that he hasn't got experience in Europe and apparently his club managerial record isn't a standout

Conte to me, is a mystery. Anyone clued up about him? Does he have a style of play he likes? How did jive play under him and how are Italy playing under him? How much should national management affect his prospects with us, considering Sampaoli is in an opposite position where his national management is more impressive than his club achievements. 

If not those two,  go all out for Potchettino. 

[kellzfresh 7,229]

If we don't want to see the type of football we just saw against watford, then we know which type of manager to get. 

[Svita 10 186]

somebody with balls to play youngsters

[Tomo 21,733]

I thought this was the besy thread to say this, its said a lot we need a true blue as assistant, well putting it out their as far as proper Chels is concerned you don't get much bigger than Eddie Newton.

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22 hours ago, manpe said:

How come?

Read that the board does not feel he is up for the challenge, hence he is only at the bottom of their wishlist. Will get considered only if all the other managers (Simeone, Pellegrini, Pochettino, the two Italians etc.) refuse to come here.

[Jase 43,479]

Regarding Pellegrini's European woes with City, yes, there is no question that they have had some tough draws in the Champions League but that cannot be used as an excuse every time. They are a top side filled with top class players. If City are going to be among the elites, then they have to test themselves and compete against the best. What does it say if people are just going to just keep on using 'oh, they have gotten some tough draws' excuse every year rather than look ahead to the challenge and use it to improve?
Furthermore, it seems as though people have selective memory all of a sudden. City have had some tough draws but people also seem to have forgotten that they do not only get beaten more often than not, but also tactically outwitted. I mean, how many times have we watched City's matches in European and then moaned about Pellegrini's naivety and tactical intelligence?

[Henrique 9,133]

Hiddink is the perfect manager for next season. Some people don't realize this team is in chaos. There won't be european football next season, and there will be a HUGE pressure to get a top 4 finish again, and that won't be easy by any means. To be honest, at this point I'm pretty sure some of those names linked with the job: Conte, Allegri, Sampaoli, all of them have a big chance of not even surviving an entire season. I also beleive at this point giving Simeone the job is a huge risk, we can't burn this option at this point.

Its not a situation where the new manager will get a solid squad, and a team that finished 3rd in the league, but a team that lack depth, don't even have a proper playing style, with a average RB still playing as a LB, where he can't even cross, and an aging CB playing as a RB, and two average players as the only options for DM.

Next season the main goal is to build the foundations for upcoming seasons and a provisional manager like Hiddink is the best option. We know he is not staying  for the long term and there won't be any silly dream about a manager that can create a dinasty (weird obessession, probably created by SAF success). After one season or two, we can go after a proper new manager.

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

Regarding Pellegrini's European woes with City, yes, there is no question that they have had some tough draws in the Champions League but that cannot be used as an excuse every time. They are a top side filled with top class players. If City are going to be among the elites, then they have to test themselves and compete against the best. What does it say if people are just going to just keep on using 'oh, they have gotten some tough draws' excuse every year rather than look ahead to the challenge and use it to improve?
Furthermore, it seems as though people have selective memory all of a sudden. City have had some tough draws but people also seem to have forgotten that they do not only get beaten more often than not, but also tactically outwitted. I mean, how many times have we watched City's matches in European and then moaned about Pellegrini's naivety and tactical intelligence?

Pellegrini is actually the 2nd best option, right after Hiddink considering the circunstances of next season.

[Cosmin 2,484]

From what I understand, Allegri's our next manager.

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5 minutes ago, Cosmin said:

From what I understand, Allegri's our next manager.

Some italian journo with a verified tag on Twitter and a Conte avi said it's Conte. Who to believe? I'd  prefer Antonio, though. Seems more tactically astute and the desire with him is obvious.

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51 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Hiddink is the perfect manager for next season. Some people don't realize this team is in chaos. There won't be european football next season, and there will be a HUGE pressure to get a top 4 finish again, and that won't be easy by any means. To be honest, at this point I'm pretty sure some of those names linked with the job: Conte, Allegri, Sampaoli, all of them have a big chance of not even surviving an entire season. I also beleive at this point giving Simeone the job is a huge risk, we can't burn this option at this point.

Its not a situation where the new manager will get a solid squad, and a team that finished 3rd in the league, but a team that lack depth, don't even have a proper playing style, with a average RB still playing as a LB, where he can't even cross, and an aging CB playing as a RB, and two average players as the only options for DM.

Next season the main goal is to build the foundations for upcoming seasons and a provisional manager like Hiddink is the best option. We know he is not staying  for the long term and there won't be any silly dream about a manager that can create a dinasty (weird obessession, probably created by SAF success). After one season or two, we can go after a proper new manager.

This is all true, but would the board really back Hiddink with the money and signings necessary to get us competing for the top 4 knowing that he wouldn't be here long? We need someone with a long term vision ASAP that can begin implementing their style right away, not another season in limbo.

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1 hour ago, Henrique said:

Hiddink is the perfect manager for next season. Some people don't realize this team is in chaos. There won't be european football next season, and there will be a HUGE pressure to get a top 4 finish again, and that won't be easy by any means. To be honest, at this point I'm pretty sure some of those names linked with the job: Conte, Allegri, Sampaoli, all of them have a big chance of not even surviving an entire season. I also beleive at this point giving Simeone the job is a huge risk, we can't burn this option at this point.

Its not a situation where the new manager will get a solid squad, and a team that finished 3rd in the league, but a team that lack depth, don't even have a proper playing style, with a average RB still playing as a LB, where he can't even cross, and an aging CB playing as a RB, and two average players as the only options for DM.

Next season the main goal is to build the foundations for upcoming seasons and a provisional manager like Hiddink is the best option. We know he is not staying  for the long term and there won't be any silly dream about a manager that can create a dinasty (weird obessession, probably created by SAF success). After one season or two, we can go after a proper new manager.

Some players are finished here. Whole club is going to be restructured. There will be a lot of changes so there's no problem to have a manager with fresh approach.