bushman 2,043 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 OK Gary, I assume 5thou is not coming my way, then ?Chicken... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I know its the currant bun but Guardiola is set for Citehhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4740888/Pep-Guardiola-snubs-Man-Utd-Chelsea-AC-and-Bayern-for-City.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Wouldnt surprise me they seem less mental there sacking wise..if so lol!! Rafa and Torres years here we come!I'd cry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I know its the currant bun but Guardiola is set for Citehhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4740888/Pep-Guardiola-snubs-Man-Utd-Chelsea-AC-and-Bayern-for-City.htmlThe Sun? He was set for City a month ago. He was set for Chelsea a week ago. He's set for City again.Expect a lot of this media bullshit over the following months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Mou ton united, pep to cityand rafa to stay @ chelsea.... I could deal with A. Wenger btw... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,944 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'd take Wenger here in a heartbeat. He has no money to spend and a squad with about 2 class player and still has them in the conversation every year.Imagine what he could do with our squad and resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Are you guys for real ?Wenger is the biggest French fry & niggardly a-hole around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The Sun? He was set for City a month ago. He was set for Chelsea a week ago. He's set for City again.Expect a lot of this media bullshit over the following months.Theres never much else in the media. However I dont think its a coincidence Man City now have 3 ex-Barca men on the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Posté le 13 janvier 2013 à 17:49:34 !Interrogé par le Daily Mail sur un possible avenir pour Pep Guardiola en Premier League, Arsène Wenger, décidément très inspiré, s'est lancé dans une comparaison culinaire pour qualifier le début de carrière du technicien espagnol. «Guardiola a commencé sa carrière avec du caviar en ayant à sa disposition tous ces footballeurs de classe mondiale. Il en aura aussi à Chelsea, c'est un bon ingrédient pour trouver de nouveau le chemin du succès», a lancé l'entraineur d'Arsenal. Précisant sa pensée, le technicien français des Gunners a ajouté : «Tout dépend de la qualité des joueurs. Barcelone compte aujourd'hui 16 points d'avance sur le Real Madrid donc ils ont une équipe exceptionnelle. Guardiola est un grand entraîneur, mais c'est aussi le cas de Benitez qui est en poste actuellement.» (Photo Presse-Sports) http://www.francefootball.fr/#!/news/2013/01/13/173918_wenger-et-le-caviar-de-guardiola.htmlWenger speaks about Guardiola at Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 One season without a trophy shouldn't have been a reason to sack him. He was undermined by sacking of Wilkins and death of his father. As soon as we get rid of the player power problem in the squad, we will get a manager for a longer term than we have so far.It all has been discussed before, but the problem wasnt "a season without trophy", but how he failed to use players from academy, like when he used Paulo Ferreira as CB instead of using Bruma against a small club in a Premier League game, or how he failed to find a solution when some players were injured, or how he failed to give United a game in UCL quarter finals, and in his last days he was more concerned about how to use Torres and Drogba together than anything.He was like Mancini, a guy that can win a PL playing a nice football but is not the right man to make a club go forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I know its the currant bun but Guardiola is set for Citehhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4740888/Pep-Guardiola-snubs-Man-Utd-Chelsea-AC-and-Bayern-for-City.htmlTo be honest if there is one team in the world that I dont see Guardiola at, is Manchester City. Why he would choose City, instead of an italian giant like Milan or a team like Bayern? I dont see a point in snubbing Chelsea for City.Anyway, Guardiola is living in New York City, The Sun is from UK, and they have a top source is Spanish football. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 To be honest if there is one team in the world that I dont see Guardiola at, is Manchester City. Why he would choose City, instead of an italian giant like Milan or a team like Bayern? I dont see a point in snubbing Chelsea for City.Anyway, Guardiola is living in New York City, The Sun is from UK, and they have a top source is Spanish football. Nice.The Sun is owned by someone who lives in NYC. Why would he choose City above an ''Italian giant''.? Lots of money for one, 3 ex-Barca men on Man Citys board for another, and unlimited transfer funds for another reason. Theres also the small detail of being left to manage without some owner interfering and getting the sack three months down the line. But if you see them as the ''one team in the World '' that he wont go to' thats fine., I personally doubt he'd consider Crewe. Arent football forums great ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The Sun is owned by someone who lives in NYC. Why would he choose City above an ''Italian giant''.? Lots of money for one, 3 ex-Barca men on Man Citys board for another, and unlimited transfer funds for another reason. Theres also the small detail of being left to manage without some owner interfering and getting the sack three months down the line. But if you see them as the ''one team in the World '' that he wont go to' thats fine., I personally doubt he'd consider Crewe. Arent football forums great ?Can you imagine? I'd have a great deal of respect for a top manager who went to a poor club because he wanted a real challenge. They don't because they know that there are only 10 teams in the world that even have a chance to win anything important with any regularity. If they go anywhere else, they simply will not win and therefore will not be considered top managers. Managers like Rafa or Mourinho are smart. They won't take jobs somewhere anywhere except at those 10 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 It all has been discussed before, but the problem wasnt "a season without trophy", but how he failed to use players from academy, like when he used Paulo Ferreira as CB instead of using Bruma against a small club in a Premier League game, or how he failed to find a solution when some players were injured, or how he failed to give United a game in UCL quarter finals, and in his last days he was more concerned about how to use Torres and Drogba together than anything.He was like Mancini, a guy that can win a PL playing a nice football but is not the right man to make a club go forward.Playing youngsters has never been an issue for sacking. Must have been the UCL game and results, hence the trophies. Damn shame really. (He maintained a very good win percentage during his 2 year reign - 61,47%, Mourinho and Hiddink have higher, but keep in mind Hiddink was in charge for only like 20 matches) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The Sun is owned by someone who lives in NYC. Why would he choose City above an ''Italian giant''.? Lots of money for one, 3 ex-Barca men on Man Citys board for another, and unlimited transfer funds for another reason. Theres also the small detail of being left to manage without some owner interfering and getting the sack three months down the line. But if you see them as the ''one team in the World '' that he wont go to' thats fine., I personally doubt he'd consider Crewe. Arent football forums great ?They are great, but sometimes you read some really dumb things, like your Crewe example, because only a 10 years child would understand what I mean. yeah, The Sun is owned by someone who lives in NYC, but I'm not sure if the owner has something to do with the top source in Spanish football, and I dont think the owner (Murdoch, a 81 years old australian guy), who lives in NYC as you said, even know who Guardiola is.Oh, you just forgot that City sacked Mark Hughes few months after he was appointed, and Mancini just won PL last season, how can they sack the manager that gave them their first really major trophy after so many years? People said that about Carlo, didnt they. A football club is made by hundreds of people, so I really dont think 3 ex-Barca men will have anything to do with Guardiola's decision. Yeah, football forums are great. Really great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Can you imagine? I'd have a great deal of respect for a top manager who went to a poor club because he wanted a real challenge. They don't because they know that there are only 10 teams in the world that even have a chance to win anything important with any regularity. If they go anywhere else, they simply will not win and therefore will not be considered top managers. Managers like Rafa or Mourinho are smart. They won't take jobs somewhere anywhere except at those 10 teams. This will never happen, you need background to be able to do a great job (money to be more specific). It is not about being smart, it is about creating a name. Then, the good job opportunities will come. You talk like their only quality is chosing where to manage, like if doing so they are automatically winners.There is a lot of hard work in it too. Also, they are not smart in what they do, everyone would do the same. The difference is that they have climbed their way up (without resources at first) and now they can comfortably choose the best option.You talk like Mourinho is a winner because he knows how to choose where to go and Harry Redknapp isnt because he doesnt. It is not like this! Harry would have gone to Real or Chelsea if we was offered such jobs, but he wasnt and Jose and Rafa were... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Can you imagine? I'd have a great deal of respect for a top manager who went to a poor club because he wanted a real challenge. They don't because they know that there are only 10 teams in the world that even have a chance to win anything important with any regularity. If they go anywhere else, they simply will not win and therefore will not be considered top managers. Managers like Rafa or Mourinho are smart. They won't take jobs somewhere anywhere except at those 10 teams. Too true. They never take on real challenges, which, if they are supposed to be so good at what they do, you'd think one or two would swallow their pride and help a lower club out. You or I could manage at Man City with unlimited resources, wear a city scarf, and it helps if you speak in broken English, and use ''This is Football'' in sticky situations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Too true. They never take on real challenges, which, if they are supposed to be so good at what they do, you'd think one or two would swallow their pride and help a lower club out. You or I could manage at Man City with unlimited resources, wear a city scarf, and it helps if you speak in broken English, and use ''This is Football'' in sticky situationsWhy managers need to get real difficult challenges to proof themselves and everyday workers dont?It is like finding a job, if you are offered a job at a very top company, with resources and excellent wages, why do you need to choose to be a cashier at McDonalds? Too prove your real vallue?Very hypocritical... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 They are great, but sometimes you read some really dumb things, like your Crewe example, because only a 10 years child would understand what I mean. yeah, The Sun is owned by someone who lives in NYC, but I'm not sure if the owner has something to do with the top source in Spanish football, and I dont think the owner (Murdoch, a 81 years old australian guy), who lives in NYC as you said, even know who Guardiola is.Oh, you just forgot that City sacked Mark Hughes few months after he was appointed, and Mancini just won PL last season, how can they sack the manager that gave them their first really major trophy after so many years? People said that about Carlo, didnt they. A football club is made by hundreds of people, so I really dont think 3 ex-Barca men will have anything to do with Guardiola's decision. Yeah, football forums are great. Really great.Well googled about Murdoch Exactly City sacked Hughes, and the same will happen to Mancini if its a trophyless season. We shall see where Guardiola goes, but saying Man City is the ''last team he would go to'' is a bit unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Good managers are managers who have tactical awareness and have complete respect of his squad. They have a new pep talk for every half time and keep their men motivated on the task hand. Now that's a skill. Best example being Mourinho / SAF, who preparetheir teams like they would be going to a real battlefield fighting for their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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