YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Strike said: The D also counts as in the box. The only person who has this wrong is you lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: He is in the D. I will admit it. Watching football for 25 years but this is the first time I see that half circle outside the box being ever mentioned and purpose explained. Never occurred to me there is a reason for its existence 🤣 Who knows, maybe in 25 years I learn what is circle in the middle of the pitch for 🤣 Strike, bigbluewillie, OhForAGreavsie and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,073 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Who knows, maybe in 25 years I learn what is circle in the middle of the pitch for 🤣 I used to be a referee so you need only ask. 🙂 In that connection, I once met Sir Stanley Rous. Literally once. He ran football as head of fifa for over ten years, played, refereed at top level, was chairman of The FA, and single-handedly wrote the first modern version of the laws of Association football. (This was in the days when The FA was responsible for the laws of the game.) Rous lost the top job at fifa partly because the rest of the world was fed up with England trying to run the sport, and partly because he was a man of his era who saw nothing wrong with apartheid South Africa so he resisted attempts to isolate them from the international game. Hint: The centre circle is also the metric equivalent of ten yards in radius. 🙂 Edited March 10, 2023 by OhForAGreavsie NikkiCFC and Strike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said: The D also counts as in the box. The only person who has this wrong is you lol. Oh, even the D is counted? My life is a lie OhForAGreavsie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Right then why is the ball allowed to be outside the D at corners. And it really fucking annoys me. Fulham Broadway, guddy69 and Norfolkblue1961 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,073 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, bigbluewillie said: Right then why is the ball allowed to be outside the D at corners. And it really fucking annoys me. Aside from the fact that the old law, which required the ball to be fully within the quadrant, made taking the kick harder, it was incompatible with the way the laws treat other lines on the pitch. A ball which is almost entirely outside the pitch, but which overhangs the outer edge of the touchline by even a millimetre, is deemed to be 'in' the field of play. A foul which occurs on the outer edge of a line marking out the penalty area would be penalised with the award of a penalty, not a free kick. If those lines are a part of the area they contain, then it follows that the arc which marks the edge of the corner quadrant should also be regarded as being 'in' that quadrant. Hence the 'new' law deems that as long as some part of the ball overhangs some part of the corner quadrant's arc, the ball is 'in' the quadrant. Edited March 10, 2023 by OhForAGreavsie manpe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Thanks for the heads up but... Whoever came up with that idea is an imbecile. guddy69 and OhForAGreavsie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 hours ago, bigbluewillie said: Right then why is the ball allowed to be outside the D at corners. And it really fucking annoys me. The one they seem to ignore constantly is when the keeper does a drop kick upfield. Invariably they are often a few feet out of the area as its booted bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolkblue1961 56 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 hours ago, bigbluewillie said: Right then why is the ball allowed to be outside the D at corners. And it really fucking annoys me. Me too....It literally drives me insane Fulham Broadway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Oh and whoever cannot take a corner from inside the quadrant shouldn't be playing football. Fulham Broadway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: The one they seem to ignore constantly is when the keeper does a drop kick upfield. Invariably they are often a few feet out of the area as its booted Yeah! I was wondering about, so many times i've been screaming look at the fucking keeper well out of the penalty area, but now I find out that the powers that be have sanctioned it. Sorry I know this is not the correct thread, but I just needed to get this off my chest😇 Fulham Broadway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,073 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, bigbluewillie said: Yeah! I was wondering about, so many times i've been screaming look at the fucking keeper well out of the penalty area, but now I find out that the powers that be have sanctioned it. Sorry I know this is not the correct thread, but I just needed to get this off my chest😇 I must be misunderstanding you here because I don't see why a keeper shouldn't be allowed to play the ball outside the penalty area. He has the same 'rights' as any other player. It's just that he has special rights when he in his own penalty area. When he's doing a drop kick from the edge of his penalty area, as long as he doesn't handle the ball outside the area, why can't he can drop it wherever he likes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,313 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: I must be misunderstanding you here because I don't see why a keeper shouldn't be allowed to play the ball outside the penalty area. He has the same 'rights' as any other player. It's just that he has special rights when he in his own penalty area. When he's doing a drop kick from the edge of his penalty area, as long as he doesn't handle the ball outside the area, why can't he can drop it wherever he likes? Sorry OFAG yes, what I've seen is so many keepers taking the drop kick when handling the ball outside the area -seems to be a blind spot to officials, though it's more noticeable when watching on TV OhForAGreavsie and bigbluewillie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: I must be misunderstanding you here because I don't see why a keeper shouldn't be allowed to play the ball outside the penalty area. He has the same 'rights' as any other player. It's just that he has special rights when he in his own penalty area. When he's doing a drop kick from the edge of his penalty area, as long as he doesn't handle the ball outside the area, why can't he can drop it wherever he likes? Yes! but not when he's still holding the ball, as Fulham Broadway say's I've seen so many keepers holding onto the ball on their run up to launching the kick and then encroaching they are hold the ball outside the penalty area so long as there is at least 1mm of the keepers back foot on a part of the white line...to me it's handball. But you're going to tell me the law has changed and they're allowed to do it, this and every aspect that they have changed is ruining the game, not making it better. I think i'd better desist on this subject, before I get pulled to order, may we can have a thread regarding the laws of the game. Edited March 10, 2023 by bigbluewillie OhForAGreavsie and Fulham Broadway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,073 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: Sorry OFAG yes, what I've seen is so many keepers taking the drop kick when handling the ball outside the area -seems to be a blind spot to officials, though it's more noticeable when watching on TV 5 hours ago, bigbluewillie said: Yes! but not when he's still holding the ball, as Fulham Broadway say's I've seen so many keepers holding onto the ball on their run up to launching the kick and then encroaching they are hold the ball outside the penalty area so long as there is at least 1mm of the keepers back foot on a part of the white line...to me it's handball. But you're going to tell me the law has changed and they're allowed to do it, this and every aspect that they have changed is ruining the game, not making it better. I think i'd better desist on this subject, before I get pulled to order, may we can have a thread regarding the laws of the game. Ah, I get you. I can't say I've noticed that. Maybe officials have taken their eyes off this because keepers don't kick from hands anywhere near as often as they used to. These days it should actually be easier for the linos to monitor this. In the old days they would jockey level with the front edge of the penalty area watching to see that keepers didn't carry the ball out of the area, then sprint hell for leather after the kick to get in line with the last defender who had pushed up towards halfway. Nowadays, the last defender is usually standing next to the goalkeeper. 🙂 bigbluewillie and Fulham Broadway 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 hours ago, bigbluewillie said: Yes! but not when he's still holding the ball, as Fulham Broadway say's I've seen so many keepers holding onto the ball on their run up to launching the kick and then encroaching they are hold the ball outside the penalty area so long as there is at least 1mm of the keepers back foot on a part of the white line...to me it's handball. But you're going to tell me the law has changed and they're allowed to do it, this and every aspect that they have changed is ruining the game, not making it better. I think i'd better desist on this subject, before I get pulled to order, may we can have a thread regarding the laws of the game. It’s crazy keepers get away with handling outside the area almost every time. Even the blatantly obvious ones like Martinez in the 2020 FA cup final It is never even checked. they could easily use the offside line technology for that esp when it’s preventing a goal. pretty sure the bvb goalie did Cary the ball outside the he box when he snatched it before Sterling but no one bat an eye. Fulham Broadway and bigbluewillie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 On 09/03/2023 at 18:11, Strike said: you do not seem to understand the basic rules of the game (ie. the penalty arc) you can plainly see (Özcan is on the right) he is within 10 yards of the pen spot (as in the Dortmund player directly behind Kai) Özcan is INSIDE THE PEN ARC VAR showed the replay from multiple angles during the game, and you could see he was within 10 yards both were inside the arc BEFORE Kai even touched the ball https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick CASE CLOSED Strike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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