Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 FT best game of the tourney purportedly but decided by the worst of refs very gutted this fraud robbed us of 30 more mins France were resilient, England wasteful so not completely undeserved Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,181 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Kane the choker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,181 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 and slabhead too, what a plonker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Southgate lost this too, england with his terrible selection. Henderson, maguire, pickford all useless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: there is contact and there is illicit contact. france a clearly beneficiaries of this drugged ref Thought Argentina and Netherlands was even more physical. Personally I dislike players who look for contact on every play—that’s not what mount did or does, but Kane does that a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Henderson , Foden , Saka useless as hell . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Giroud le grand empereur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,181 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Southgate lost this too, england with his terrible selection. Henderson, maguire, pickford all useless blame all round, richly deserved typical English chokers France were hardly great at all we lost it, they did not win it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 France's efficiency is scary, they are able to amp it up when they need which is the mark of champions. Hopefully they keep it and humiliate that terrible Morocco side 1 minute ago, robsblubot said: Thought Argentina and Netherlands was even more physical. Personally I dislike players who look for contact on every play—that’s not what mount did or does, but Kane does that a lot. It was. Ref completely lost control but at least it somewhat evened out today the ref rigged the game which was disgusting. Almost every wrong decision benefitted France. England have to move beyond kane, pickford, southgate and all the junk he carries with him. There is enough quality there but Southgate with his favouritism costs them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 lol think about it, Kane will probably retire without a single title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,181 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, milka said: Henderson , Foden , Saka useless as hell . Saka was great, no clue what game you watched robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: France's efficiency is scary, they are able to amp it up when they need which is the mark of champions. Hopefully they keep it and humiliate that terrible Morocco side It was. Ref completely lost control but at least it somewhat evened out today the ref rigged the game which was disgusting. Almost every wrong decision benefitted France. England have to move beyond kane, pickford, southgate and all the junk he carries with him. There is enough quality there but Southgate with his favouritism costs them I think the ref effect was less than what you think, but I take your point. Some of England new stars are a bit young at this stage. They will become stronger players at euros and then next wc. Experience plays a huge part in WC finals … it’s very rare to see young sides in the final. Edited December 10, 2022 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,181 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said: lol think about it, Kane will probably retire without a single title well Millwall Young Player of the Year: 2011–12 🤣 nyikolajevics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Southgate lost this too, england with his terrible selection. Henderson, maguire, pickford all useless He waited till France scored before making changes. Reactive managers only have themselves to blame. Vesper and robsblubot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LAM09 said: He waited till France scored before making changes. Reactive managers only have themselves to blame. The subs were very late indeed. Even when I thought England was playing well, there was a point where the subs should have been made to freshen up legs and push forward. I think mount was already warming up before the goal btw. not enough time for mount and sterling Tbf. Edited December 10, 2022 by robsblubot LAM09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Vesper said: well Millwall Young Player of the Year: 2011–12 🤣 lol he has plenty of individual titles. Like 3 PL top scorers and wc golden boot. But it's a team sports and eam titles are more important On a different note, while England were significantly weakened by key injuries, Iinjuries to Pogba and Benzema were key to France. They looked like shit with those two in 2021 with their lack of intensity. Giroud adds so much to France. They still miss Kante but Tchouameni is a decent back up Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, robsblubot said: The subs were very late indeed. Even when I thought England was playing well, there was a point where the subs should have been made to freshen up legs and push forward. not enough time for mount and sterling Tbf. The fact that Saka was taken off first was baffling. Theo couldn't handle him. I'm sure Southgate's run is now over. Vesper and robsblubot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) indeed saka was englands best for me. Btw as a regular critic I thought rice had a good game. France did not block him to be fair, so he had time on the ball other players weren’t allowed, but he did pick up nice passes and was good defensively. england did nullify mbappe which was one good thing the headcoach did tho. Edited December 10, 2022 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, LAM09 said: He waited till France scored before making changes. Reactive managers only have themselves to blame. Was similar when they lost to Croatia and Italy. They led early on and failed to close the deal. Apart from the selection, the late subs and taking off Saka, the best player on the pitch, His match plan was too cowardly. Henderson to close off the the right side and having walker play deep they failed to exploit the acres of space behind mbappe. LAM09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,181 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: lol he has plenty of individual titles. Like 3 PL top scorers and wc golden boot. But it's a team sports and eam titles are more important On a different note, while England were significantly weakened by key injuries, Iinjuries to Pogba and Benzema were key to France. They looked like shit with those two in 2021 with their lack of intensity. Giroud adds so much to France. They still miss Kante but Tchouameni is a decent back up France biggest misses due to injuries are Kante, Presnel Kimpembe, Nkunku, and arguably Pogba especially the first two they play better with Giroud than Benz IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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