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2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Some positives that need a mention from that match:

- Trev was once again mistake free and had an easy game, Silva as well

- Chilly was much better today than he was against Villa

- midfield wasn’t a gaping hole once Potter made the change with Kova

We’re basically the opposite of where we were under Tuchel before he was fired. We couldn’t defend and made school boy errors nonstop. Now we’re secure defensively but our attack is extremely stale. 

our attack  has been stale for years, MANY years. when did we last score goals for fun? hazzard prime with costa maybe?

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All these big player acquisitions in the past three to four years have not been big at all. Generational talent, will out run defences with a nonstop motor. 
Until our player recruitment gets right, top four is what we can hope for. Not exactly what I want, but it is what it is if players are getting top of the league money and playing inconsistent at best.   

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11 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

What a crock of shite. Tuchel won a CL with 75% of this squad.

Arguably, you could say the squad is better now than it was then. I mean Sterling is an improvement, Cucurella is an improvement, Aubamayang is an improvement, fair enough losing Rudiger and even Christensen but we’ve not necessarily downgraded hugely on them. 

People complained TT had us playing poorly with this squad… now Potters in, nobody in the world could beat teams with this squad? Jesus.

Next week it’ll be back to “this squad should be playing better”…. 

 

75% that ain't getting any better, that was 2 season ago we won the champions League, great back then but seriously, sterling was great in a man city shirt, cucu is no improvement on chilwell and only a defensive improvement on Alonso. Rudi far superior to KK, Fofana is better than AC but he's injured.  Also I never said BEAT I said walk over teams, if you think any manager could make these players steamroll teams, then am sorry but your deluded. Our midfield is mid table, we have a 38 year old centre back that we rely on far to much, our best player is injured, our best DM is injured, ziyech pulisic, finished here.... Potter is doing his best with players that he had no influence in buying and bought for another managers system (clubs fault). We don't have a KDB or a Salah (clubs fault) we don't have a player that can change the game in an instance, yes we have James, but he's a RWB you need these players up top or running your midfield, every 1 said it start of season we needed midfielders! We are now paying the price. But on the other hand we needed defenders aswell, so we had to prioritize. 

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Miles away from City and even Arsenal.

We were lucky to get a penalty otherwise we wouldn’t score even if we play 180 minutes…

Zero creativity in attack, really. Not only today.

Draw is a fair result because they could win us. Ourselves to blame that we couldn’t waste 2-3 more minutes and won it.

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GP is obviously not better than TT but they are both good coaches, would not blame either for the situation we are in. Rahter, it's the squad  that is just hopeless. As I said during the match and many here agreed afterwards, our recuritment is terrible. We have wasted close to a bn on absolute shit players like Cucurella, Lukaku, Sterling, Ziyech etc . Until we actually have a recuritment strategy with a competent DoF in place, we should just not splash out huge sums and then wonder where it went wrong. Broja once more did 10x more than Auba in a fraction of the minutes, Mount outshone Sterling, Trev is maturing into one of the best cbs in the league when Cucurella ran around like a headless chicken again. Jorginho and Azpi  while good servants to the club are finished. We should only buy players that identify 100% with the club. Obviously most of our acquisitions just come in to collect a paycheck and do as much as necessary not to violate their contracts but nothing more. we have gone the Barca route of luring players here who are not fit for the team nor the club with fat paychecks and hoping for the best, no clear strategy of how to integrate and play them. Now we pay the price. manUre have the same strategy btw and they looked like shit today as well too albeit slightly more creative than we did, blind chicken and stuff.

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btw rewatched extensive highlights and while ManUre had more big chances with antony and rashford missing guilt edged ones, we should have had another penalty. Casemiro bodychecked Sterling right after he attempted that intercepted bass to Auba in the box. Clear pen for me as he hits him on the knee as well. Honestly, i was shocked when we got that Jorginho penalty. After maguire's chokehold vs Azpi i never blieved we would ever get a big decision against them again. Also where did the 6mins come from? One goal? that was the moment I was sure we would concede late. Another (albeit anyway terrible) match compleltey ruined by a professional match fixer with a whistle.

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1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

GP is obviously not better than TT but they are both good coaches, would not blame either for the situation we are in. Rahter, it's the squad  that is just hopeless. As I said during the match and many here agreed afterwards, our recuritment is terrible. We have wasted close to a bn on absolute shit players like Cucurella, Lukaku, Sterling, Ziyech etc . Until we actually have a recuritment strategy with a competent DoF in place, we should just not splash out huge sums and then wonder where it went wrong. Broja once more did 10x more than Auba in a fraction of the minutes, Mount outshone Sterling, Trev is maturing into one of the best cbs in the league when Cucurella ran around like a headless chicken again. Jorginho and Azpi  while good servants to the club are finished. We should only buy players that identify 100% with the club. Obviously most of our acquisitions just come in to collect a paycheck and do as much as necessary not to violate their contracts but nothing more. we have gone the Barca route of luring players here who are not fit for the team nor the club with fat paychecks and hoping for the best, no clear strategy of how to integrate and play them. Now we pay the price. manUre have the same strategy btw and they looked like shit today as well too albeit slightly more creative than we did, blind chicken and stuff.

Agree with most of this and we need to fix the glaring issue in midfield. 

Get someone in there who can add a bit of physicality and get away with those 'professional' fouls like Rodri, Fabinho, Casemiro etc

The fact that Potter doesn't want to use Zakaria at all...it seems like he'll be sent back to Juventus in January. 

As for Cucurella, we overpaid massively.  City were smart, they offered very good value for Cucurella (30-35 million) and when Brighton asked for 50+ million, they cancelled the deal.   For some reason we got desperate and ended up spending twice his actual value.  

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2 hours ago, xPetrCechx said:

Miles away from City and even Arsenal.

We were lucky to get a penalty otherwise we wouldn’t score even if we play 180 minutes…

Zero creativity in attack, really. Not only today.

Draw is a fair result because they could win us. Ourselves to blame that we couldn’t waste 2-3 more minutes and won it.

If we played either of those sides, I wouldn't be surprised to see a 4-1 scoreline in their favor. 

Both Chelsea & United are in the same place, fighting for 4th place in the league.  The only difference is that they got their midfield sorted whilst our midfield is one injury away from serious problems (especially with Kante out for many months). 

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5 hours ago, LAM09 said:

It's clear how reliant we are on James. We are literally a different side once he's out & it's beyond the point of concern.

And Kante and Rudiger.

Absolute jokes that anyone thinks midget CuCu is a viable CB.

This was all so fucking avoidable too. 

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On a side note, did you guys sense the hatred from the ex-Madrid boys of Casemiro and Varane?

Varane punched the flag on his way out (although to be fair, he was wrongly booed off for an unfortunate injury)

Casemerio got into a tussle with Mount and was acting like he was possessed by a demon after scoring the equalizer. Felt like slapping his face through the TV when that happened, lol.

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