Vegetable 830 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Gundalf said: Just patience fans who dont have a total meltdown when their club goes thru a tough period in the hope that continuity will help the club to be successful again. I think there would be zero tension in this thread if only people would understand the small detail that most of (reasonable) people calling for managerial change are not seeing the idea of sticking to a single manager for while as a problem, but the person of Potter himself and his lack of capacity to handle such project at this level. Like seriously, if we've gotten, say, Conte in and decided to support him no matter what, hardly anyone except some reactionists would complain. And why you are trying to take some personal stabs on people with different view on the matter of Graham freaking Potter I cannot understand. Not quite worth it man. Edited February 18, 2023 by Vegetable Norfolkblue1961, TheHulk and Hamilton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolkblue1961 56 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: Brighton is playing better than us. Everyone is playing better than us. We are pitiful at the moment. It is utterly depressing xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 If we were playing with improvements but just unlucky then fair enough. But we aren't. There's the only spark and then it's gone and back to playing crap and it's been like that week in week out. It's a shame but it isn't working. There's no point going into another season hoping for it to change because it won't. Unless like said they're happy with midtable finish then it's fine for next season... Norfolkblue1961 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Today is definitely a bit of a tipping point for me as it was just a completely unforgiveable performance and result. I'm all for giving time and patience so long as there is progress. That doesn't necessarily mean always in results. In recent games, we were looking more solid in defence and against West Ham and Dortmund there were signs of the attack starting to click and create chances, albeit not over a consistent manner of 90 minutes. But today was so devoid of anything remotely positive. At some stage the manager has to be held more accountable when this is what is being turned out. A period of transition is all fine and well, but losing at home to Southampton deservedly is simply not. Fernando, Blue Armour, Norfolkblue1961 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Vegetable said: And why you are trying to take some personal stabs on people with different view on the matter of Graham freaking Potter I cannot understand. Not quite worth it. Bc there are people who get personal and are questioning the fandom only bc some dont want the manager to be sacked after a few months. Thats also personal. Let me get it straight: I dont rate Potter as someone who can have a direct impact on a team, to instantly make a team better, there are a lot of coaches who are a lot better in this. Also at Brighton it took him 2 years to get fully going. (Brighton fans had the same discussions about him in his first year there). BUT I consider Potter as someone who can work well in a long term, implementing a philosophy, a structure, a DNA for the next decades. He may be a bad coach in terms of direct impact, but he can build a system. And I think this is what Boehly wants to achieve. No coincidence that Boehly initially wanted to hire Christoph Freund from RB Salzburg as well, as the Red Bull football teams have this kind of system, DNA, structure to perfection. Everyone, from the 10yo academy players to the senior team is on the same page. The system comes first, and every player that is bought, every new coach that is implemented has to follow this structure. And I think this is what Boehly and Potter want to achieve and build. Chelsea had so many different coaches over the last few years, everyone with their own philosophy, demands on transfer market and so on and tbf, this is a outdated view on football. Hire and fire is over. Over the last 15 years, Chelsea has lost its DNA. What is Chelsea FC, what does it stand for? What philosophy is there? When Potter was announced I literally said that I dont expect us to be any good for 2 years but that it will benefit us in the long term. And I still think it will. Edited February 18, 2023 by Gundalf Vegetable and YorkshireBlue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Thomas Tuchel has THREE times more Premier League wins this season for Chelsea than Graham Potter. He was sacked a week into September. ChrissWTF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, Superblue said: Today is definitely a bit of a tipping point for me as it was just a completely unforgiveable performance and result. I'm all for giving time and patience so long as there is progress. That doesn't necessarily mean always in results. In recent games, we were looking more solid in defence and against West Ham and Dortmund there were signs of the attack starting to click and create chances, albeit not over a consistent manner of 90 minutes. But today was so devoid of anything remotely positive. At some stage the manager has to be held more accountable when this is what is being turned out. A period of transition is all fine and well, but losing at home to Southampton deservedly is simply not. Even though I was leaning towards Potter out last week... the Dortmund game gave me hope but today was a disgrace. If he isn't sacked within 24 hours, I'll be shocked.. it's about to get extremely toxic everywhere you turn for Chelsea fans. Norfolkblue1961 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Tuchel won 4 of the 8 wins we have this season... Where's the logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,874 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,621 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 i love mourinho but i would rather keep potter than bringing him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! manpe 10,861 Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post! Share Posted February 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: Thomas Tuchel has THREE times more Premier League wins this season for Chelsea than Graham Potter. He was sacked a week into September. Of all the years I have been a Chelsea fan, firing Tuchel and then replacing him with Potter is among the most horrible decisions I've seen the club make, if not the worst. Tough call between this and sacking Mourinho for Avram Grant. Fernando, Vegetable, lucio and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian 9 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I really wanted it to work out but I just dont see how long this will go on for but at the same time who would we even hire.... Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, manpe said: Of all the years I have been a Chelsea fan, firing Tuchel and then replacing him with Potter is among the most horrible decisions I've seen the club make, if not the worst. Tough call between this and sacking Mourinho for Avram Grant. At least we played well under Grant. Johnnyeye, Vesper and manpe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,482 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 This guy is shameless. Vegetable, OneMoSalah and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,224 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, manpe said: Tough call between this and sacking Mourinho for Avram Grant. If not for JT's PK slip on the ultra dodgy Moscow pitch, the piss drinker's hubby would have won the CL. Just as his predecessor José Mourinho had done, Grant completed his period as Chelsea manager without losing a single home game in the Premier League. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Wake me up when this guy is sacked Hamilton and Johnnyeye 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 How can he possibly stay after that? We looked totally aimless and without any ideas against the rock bottom side who have no actual coach. A team with an interim manager looked more assured in what they were doing than the most expensively assembled squad ever. We need a proper big club manager who can drill into these players some clear ideas and get them to buy in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 British journos to the rescue already 😂 I wanted to say that I'd expect some official stance from club after this, because if it will be another "It is understood Boehly keeps faith in Potter" via some local psychofan I will fucking snap, but he was faster 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 this is relegation form we are in atm with the players we have and this guy is still allowed to be the head coach, mind boggling. Norfolkblue1961 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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