Vesper 30,224 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: I like Isak, I think he has a lot of potential and plenty of scope for development. However the talk of around £70m just makes him far too much of a risk, as he hasn't done enough to justify such a fee and he hasn't yet shown he can be a prolific goal scorer. If we were talking £30 - 40m, I wouldn't mind him as an alternative to Haaland because we'd potentially be able to sell Tammy to help fund him and I don't think he'd then inhibit us buying another striker next summer if we needed/decided. But the price being quoted is just far too high to take that chance, and I think would then make it difficult for us to go back into the market next summer for a Haaland. If we're talking that level of money it needs to be a more proven commodity. €70m (£60m), not £70m Dortmund had a €30m (£25.5m) buyback that kicked in this month, BUT now I am seeing articles saying Real Sociedad have 'gotten rid' of that, but no explanation as to how they did so. I have never really heard of this before, and the only way I can see it is IF Dortmund accepted a big cash buyout to make the buyback null and void. Alexander Isak's buy-back clause situation and what it could mean for Premier League suitors Real Sociedad have managed to rid of Alexander Isak's buy-back clause which strengthens their transfer stance amid interest from Premier League sides like Chelsea https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/alexander-isak-transfer-interest-latest-24360556 Borussia Dortmund no longer have a buy-back option on Real Sociedad striker Alexander Isak. The Swedish star has been a revelation in La Liga, scoring 17 times and attracting interest from around Europe. Dortmund allowed Isak to leave for Sociedad in 2019 but included a clause that allowed them to buy the striker back for £25m. The Spanish side have managed to rid of that buy-back option however meaning they can now name their price. Isak continues to impress at Euro 2020 and put in a man of the match display against Slovakia recently. Chelsea are among those keen on the 21-year-old with Thomas Tuchel knowing the striker from his time at Dortmund. Sociedad are adamant he will not be sold for less than his £60m buyout clause but the Blues are looking to add a striker this summer. Dortmund's handling of Isak was a cause of tension between Tuchel and the Bundesliga club as he wasn't informed of his return in January 2017. The German spoke highly of the striker even then, saying: "Alex is a very strong striker, who can play with his back toward goal and is strong in the combination. He scores a lot of goals, so it is great to have him here. "The signing of Isak makes perfect sense. This gives the club a long-term solution for the position of striker. Isak is a very talented player. Edited June 21, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) Inter Milan outline new condition for Chelsea to complete Achraf Hakimi transfer The Blues continue to be linked with the Moroccan wing-back but Inter first have to sell another player before they contemplate letting him go https://www.football.london/Chelsea-fc/transfer-news/Chelsea-hakimi-condition-inter-milan-20862952 Chelsea continue to be strongly linked with a move for Inter Milan’s Achraf Hakimi. Competing with Paris Saint-Germain for his signature, the Blues have reportedly plotted a swap deal involving current defender Marcos Alonso. The Spaniard appears unlikely to have a future at Stamford Bridge beyond the summer, with Chelsea boss Thomas Tuchel preferring England international Ben Chilwell. Meanwhile, the arrival of Alonso has reportedly been approved by Inter’s newly appointed boss Simone Inzaghi. However, there is a potential problem in Marina Granovskaia’s plan in that Inter’s current wing-back option Ivan Perisic must be sold in order for the Serie A champions to accept any deal involving Alonso. According to FCinternews, a sale of the Croatian international this summer is “essential” should the swap deal be accepted. A finalist of the World Cup in 2018, the 32-year-old is out of contract next summer and is apparently being eyed by Bundesliga clubs which could potentially make a sale a little easier. Edited June 21, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Vesper said: €70m (£60m), not £70m Dortmund had a €30m (£25.5m) buyback that kicked in this month, BUT now I am seeing articles saying Real Sociedad have 'gotten rid' of that, but no explanation as to how they did so. I have never really heard of this before, and the only way I can see it is IF Dortmund accepted a big cash buyout to make the buyback null and void. Even then though it's still too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Superblue_1986 said: Even then though it's still too high. yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Settling for a much lesser player after missing out on our top target is dumb. If not Haaland just invest heavily in other areas of the team and pray we make top 4 or win the CL again and can try for him next year. If we buy Isak for big money and he sucks we’re stuck with him and one of our rivals could sign Haaland. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styl1994 188 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Pizy said: Settling for a much lesser player after missing out on our top target is dumb. If not Haaland just invest heavily in other areas of the team and pray we make top 4 or win the CL again and can try for him next year. If we buy Isak for big money and he sucks we’re stuck with him and one of our rivals could sign Haaland. pray we make top 4 Not a option we are not Tottenham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 On 17/06/2021 at 18:15, Styl1994 said: Not happening Honestly think we would only get Hakimi and Haaland from that list and then call it a day. they were having a laugh killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 This Hakimi drama is getting old fast. Now we are offering RLC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,282 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, ZAPHOD2319 said: This Hakimi drama is getting old fast. Now we are offering RLC? source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mário César said: source? Gazzetta Dello Sport via ESPN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 On 18/06/2021 at 20:22, NikkiCFC said: What is alternative? Adama Traore. in terms of actual even remotely available (some would take a shit tonne of cash to turn the heads of the selling club) best RWB options Achraf Hakimi Silas Katompa Mvumpa (22yo, 1.89m beast, out with a knee injury atm though, IF he recovers we could be a massive weapon if we fail on Hakimi, he has insane pace and a better shot, 13 goals and 5 assists in only 2100 minutes for Stuttgart, I so hope his knee injury heals up completely and fast) Emerson Royal (if Barca sells him) James Justin (Leicester will want insane cash though) Adama Traoré Enock Mwepu (23yo, 1.84m, 10 goals, 7 assists for RB Salzburg) Lutsharel Geertruida (20yo, 1.84m Feyenoord RWB, 8 goals 2 assists, but now is also out with an injured knee) Devyne Rensch (18yo 1.79m Ajax youngster, 3 goals, 2 assist in the league in the 9 games after he went fulltime starter) Wilfried Singo (20yo 1.9m beast for Torino, super raw, needs time) best LWB options Theo Hernández Robin Gosens Ramy Bensebaini Borna Sosa (23yo Croatian, 1.86m, 10 Bundesliga assists as a LWB/LB in only 2000 minutes, 9 in 3 months, from mid January to mid April, then had a now-recovered-from shoulder injury) best bargain buy out of all these Plus, the 18yo (19yo in 3 days) Nuno Mendes, who I can so see becoming a monster and easily reaching that level, although he is nowhere nearly as large (1.76m so they say) as 4 listed above, all of whom are over 6 feet tall, although he has tremendous leaping skills, he is extremely athletic. Alfonso Pedraza is sorta getting there as well and is 1.84m, so has good size as well, but I am NOT convinced he si Chels quality wild card, a 21yo, 1.81cm Brasilian from Club Athletico Paranaense, Abner Vinicius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Can see Isak happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Can see Isak happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, Vesper said: He looks like a good player, but nowhere near 70m or what we should aspire to in our main striker to me. Also haven't seen him that much though, is he better than i'm giving him credit for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Isak looks to me like the sort of signing Arsenal would make. A good talent that has the potential to become a great buy but is also a risk. Comes across as a player that mid level clubs pursue because they aren’t attractive enough to lure the very best. Do I think he’d be decent for us? Probably. But is he the sort of striker who can take us up to City’s level in the league? Nope. If we’re dead set on getting a striker this summer no matter what and fail with Haaland, I think the only “let’s take a punt on this guy” forward I’d be reasonably happy with is Vlahovic. Got all the tools to become world class and is so young that even if he starts slowly can get better and better with great coaching. Less risky for me than Isak. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Artandur said: He looks like a good player, but nowhere near 70m or what we should aspire to in our main striker to me. Also haven't seen him that much though, is he better than i'm giving him credit for? He's pretty good technically. Great dribbler and link up play. When you look at our current attacking players metrics in build up, they are all heavily involved. When you compare it to Isak and Haaland, the former looks like he would better suit us. But that is the question. Are we so poor at finishing because we have too many players involved in the build up and no one being the clinical focal point? If that is the case Haaland is the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: He's pretty good technically. Great dribbler and link up play. When you look at our current attacking players metrics in build up, they are all heavily involved. When you compare it to Isak and Haaland, the former looks like he would better suit us. But that is the question. Are we so poor at finishing because we have too many players involved in the build up and no one being the clinical focal point? If that is the case Haaland is the answer. Yeah thanks, that's pretty much what i figured. Feels like he would definitely be a really good option for us to have, but not the big money solution to our problems, that we should be looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Artandur said: Yeah thanks, that's pretty much what i figured. Feels like he would definitely be a really good option for us to have, but not the big money solution to our problems, that we should be looking for. I think its more so the latter. We need a clinical focal point vs another attack heavily involved in build up. So Haaland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, Artandur said: He looks like a good player, but nowhere near 70m or what we should aspire to in our main striker to me. Also haven't seen him that much though, is he better than i'm giving him credit for? he is not worth £60m at this point in his career £35m, 40m, sure and I have followed him since 2016 he is fairly unique, would not be at all upset to see him come for a fair price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styl1994 188 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Think we would all like Haaland but if he doesn’t arrive we need to do something Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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