Chelsea Transfers

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Fernando said:

I thought Gallagher and Gilmour where 2 different type of players? 

You mean the loaning out bit? Was trying to make the point that both are still relatively inexperienced at the highest level and it would be ironic if Tuchel uses Gallagher instead of Gilmour. 

[Vesper 30,091]

7 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Depending on how Mbappe’s contract situation goes, it’s entirely possible that one club could end up signing both he AND Haaland for peanuts next summer.

Probably what both Spanish giants are hoping for. 

that's the scenario that the hardcore Real Madrid lunatics are close to being pretty sure will happen and are pushing as though it is already etched in stone as fact

IN 2022

1 They get Mbappe on a free

2 They get Camavinga on a free

3 They get Håland for €75m (£64m or so atm)

4 They get Kimmich for less than Håland in 2022 or on a  free in 2023, and perhaps Goretzka too (new Kroos they call him, LOLOL) Both are due to Bayern not being able to match wage offers RM will make.

5 They go hard for de Ligt this window, or the next or the next (contract expires in 2024, so it would be 2023 that they can do the cheap manoeuvre)

6 They will get Salah this  window or next (that is the least most likely to be seen being pushed, and the smarter ones  say its thsi window or bust, as he turns 30yo in 11 months)

7 End game, once all that (or most all) happens, and that billion euro new stadium is pumping in over €120-150m plus new revenue each year, they can proceed to further rape every other team on the planet and take the best players possible for any and all positions down the road (I have seen some list out examples, like Alphonso Davies for LB, even the best young Brits, Foden (after Pep fucks off they say), Bellingham, Saka, Sancho (they deffo want Brits, I even saw MOUNT mentioned by a couple, roflmaooo), Hakimi (some are obsessed with getting him back, many had a fit RM did not match PSG, as they had right of first refusal). Basically ANY player from any team, and the most insane think they can also go in and mug Barca for De Jong, and Pedri (and Fati if he comes good after his horrific injuries).

They are full blown megalomaniacs, and delusional (hopefully, my god, imagine if most of that actually happens, ffs). They do (and I do grudgingly admire that some of them have a grand vision and rationales) have a paradigm that IN THEORY makes some sense. Barca falls apart after Messi leaves, aided by RM ruthlessly raping them, the same for PSG, Bayern is financially handcuffed by too low revenue due to Bundesliga, Juve will pose no huge threat once they show they can take players like de Ligt form them, AC Milan simply never comes back to the level when they were often the best team on the planet for ages, and that leaves just the Big 4 EPL clubs (Manure, Citeh, us, Pool) to battle, and they wager Madrid is simply Irresistible (cue the song, lol) due to climate, stadium, reputation, lifestyle, etc etc etc., especially compared to the non London English clubs.

Let us all hope it is a dystopian nightmare that never happens.

 

 

[Tomo 21,751]

6 minutes ago, Jas said:

You mean the loaning out bit? Was trying to make the point that both are still relatively inexperienced at the highest level and it would be ironic if Tuchel uses Gallagher instead of Gilmour. 

Would be different situations. 

Gilmour has all the potential in the world while Gallagher's probably a versatile squad player level, makes sense to loan the former out while using the latter as squad filler, even more so given he's also capable of filling in higher up, especially when Mount needs a rest.

[King Kante 1,643]

16 hours ago, Jas said:

Unless my memory has failed me, has there been anything about us wanting to sell Zouma? I know Tuchel wants a defender but all signs have been pointing to a RWB or right sided defender.

Problem with those players is finding a buyer/taker. With Abraham for example, there seems to be only one club that can maybe afford him and that's Aston Villa. West Ham would like him as well, I believe, but they don't have the money. 

Until we know for sure there's concrete interest in our players and someone is willing to fork out the cash, it'll be hard for us to get any meaningful income. 

Well I think it is a fairly logical leap Zouma would be someone the club would sell, as: 

1) He clearly doesn't fit TT's style 

2) He is the type of defender a lot of PL clubs would like

3) His minutes were starting to dwindle to Tammy numbers

4) We have so many players, some will need to be sold, who could admittedly be handy, in order to raise some capital. 

I will freely admit, this is me crystal ball gazing and not based on any sort of fact. So, please take more as a projection/prediction rather than me stating it will be a fact/is happening. 

[Clockwork 1,794]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

taking CR7 now would make us look like a poundland Juve

hard pass

A veteran and proven goal scorer is what we need. Given the amount investment we have made in our young attackers. Haaland was never going to happen. We could do much worse.

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17 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Would be different situations. 

Gilmour has all the potential in the world while Gallagher's probably a versatile squad player level, makes sense to loan the former out while using the latter as squad filler, even more so given he's also capable of filling in higher up, especially when Mount needs a rest.

But both are still inexperienced and unlike Gallagher, Gilmour at least already has some experience in playing for us.

I don’t see the point of him filling in for Mount when we already so many options upfront to do so.

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3 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Well I think it is a fairly logical leap Zouma would be someone the club would sell, as: 

1) He clearly doesn't fit TT's style 

2) He is the type of defender a lot of PL clubs would like

3) His minutes were starting to dwindle to Tammy numbers

4) We have so many players, some will need to be sold, who could admittedly be handy, in order to raise some capital. 

I will freely admit, this is me crystal ball gazing and not based on any sort of fact. So, please take more as a projection/prediction rather than me stating it will be a fact/is happening. 

I knew it! 😪

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

With James now hopefully Zouma is merely an emergency option. 

[Vesper 30,091]

15 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

A veteran and proven goal scorer is what we need. Given the amount investment we have made in our young attackers. Haaland was never going to happen. We could do much worse.

he isn't coming here

for a multiplicity of reasons

Manure being a big one

I am just gobsmacked that a sarcastic throw-away line by Jason has been latched onto and one of the players in it is now being given weight as some sort of viable path to pursue

[Vesper 30,091]

15 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

With James now hopefully Zouma is merely an emergency option. 

we REALLY need to sell Zouma

so many teams would want him

he just doesn't fit our scheme, but he is a more than viable CB in the right situation

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2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

we REALLY need to sell Zouma

so many teams would want him

he just doesn't fit our scheme, but he is a more than viable CB in the right situation

If we sell Zouma, we will likely then have to get a replacement because that would leave us with just 3 out-and-out CBs and one of them is soon to be 37 years old while another 2 is like half-CB and half-RWB at the moment.

[Vesper 30,091]

16 minutes ago, Jas said:

If we sell Zouma, we will likely then have to get a replacement because that would leave us with just 3 out-and-out CBs and one of them is soon to be 37 years old while another 2 is like half-CB and half-RWB at the moment.

Romagnoli is there for the taking at a cut rate price compared to what was wanted in the past

then there is Maxence Lacroix and Sven Botman

finally, IF he really wants out and Pep truly is putting him up for sale, there is Laporte, who I absolutely still rate

Both Romagnoli and Laporte are left footers as well.

Any of these 4 are a big upgrade over Zouma, and selling him covers a lot of the cost

 

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[King Kante 1,643]

3 hours ago, Clockwork said:

A veteran and proven goal scorer is what we need. Given the amount investment we have made in our young attackers. Haaland was never going to happen. We could do much worse.

If we need a veteran striker, Benzema is the one (who is also unavailable) to go for. CR7 is far too greedy to pump up his stats to be in this side. 

[King Kante 1,643]

3 hours ago, Jas said:

If we sell Zouma, we will likely then have to get a replacement because that would leave us with just 3 out-and-out CBs and one of them is soon to be 37 years old while another 2 is like half-CB and half-RWB at the moment.

Tbh, the RCB gets played as a Half Back in the current system. Not sure you need a 'real' CB for the position. Dave and James are fine imo for that position. 

[Hashishi 148]

The problem is next season when Rudiger, Christensen, Azpi and Silva's contracts finish. We will be left with Zouma and Ampadu with no planning. A CB around Christensen's age, e.g. Romagnoli, would set us up in that position for a while. 

I think we have more pressing matters, and letting someone like Ampadu play 5th or 6th CB isn't the worst idea, even if Zouma is sold. Tuchel seems to spot player talent better than Lampard and I'm guessing a full preseason will allow him to see what we have. I think we might see one or two surprises a la Moses under Conte.