Chelsea Transfers

[NikkiCFC 8,121]

  On 07/07/2021 at 19:16, OneMoSalah said:

Neither please.

Belotti isn’t a top class side starting CF and neither is Ings. They are enough for a certain level but I’m not sure they would improve our options upfront. 

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Not for starter of course. We are speaking what if we can't sign top striker, and both Olie and Tammy leave so we continue with Kai. Those are realistic options for backup. 

[OneMoSalah 8,832]

  On 07/07/2021 at 19:21, NikkiCFC said:

Not for starter of course. We are speaking what if we can't sign top striker, and both Olie and Tammy leave so we continue with Kai. Those are realistic options for backup. 

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But again, will those guys be allowed to leave if we can’t get in a top CF? I doubt it.

[Superblue 6,372]

  On 07/07/2021 at 19:48, OneMoSalah said:

But again, will those guys be allowed to leave if we can’t get in a top CF? I doubt it.

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You'd assume not. However Tammy had completely been frozen out. I wouldn't be against Tammy staying but if Tuchel doesn't fancy him then it's pointless.

I would say Giroud was starting to fall into the same bracket. He'd make the bench for pretty much all the games but how much game time did he receive in the final weeks. I don't have the info but I'd assume if was very little.

I don't want us buying for the sake of it, we've been there and suffered as a consequence (we still are in some cases). However we do also need to make sure that Tuchel has a squad that he trusts. I do worry that might not be the case with Tammy and Giroud.

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If Tammy starts regularly at his current level of play we are done for. He's simply nowhere near an elite striker any way you look at his game. He lacks so many attributes that it's easier to start with what he has: some pace and decent finishing.

Regarding him as a sub, while I'm not sure he's good enough even for that atm, the first question is whether that role would be of interest to him. If he wants to start games regularly, then he needs to look for a smaller club. That's not going to happen at Chelsea or any other top club... that's why there is no interest from any top club.

He could however, drop a tier and grind game time, and then even improve becoming a good striker in the PL. Don't think CL is where he belongs - his game simply lacks range.

Personally I think he will leave.

[OneMoSalah 8,832]

  On 07/07/2021 at 20:00, Superblue_1986 said:

You'd assume not. However Tammy had completely been frozen out. I wouldn't be against Tammy staying but if Tuchel doesn't fancy him then it's pointless.

I would say Giroud was starting to fall into the same bracket. He'd make the bench for pretty much all the games but how much game time did he receive in the final weeks. I don't have the info but I'd assume if was very little.

I don't want us buying for the sake of it, we've been there and suffered as a consequence (we still are in some cases). However we do also need to make sure that Tuchel has a squad that he trusts. I do worry that might not be the case with Tammy and Giroud.

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Aye it doesn’t look great for Tammy but at the same time, will we get the apparent 35/40m price we want for him? Who’s going to replace him if we aren’t able to get deals for Haaland or Lukaku?

Theres no other real links to CFs which is a huge concern and we hopefully won’t just buy an average player for the sake of it.

It would probably be stupid to sell either of Tammy or Giroud without making a purchase first in that area. Giroud is the only one with any sort of concretely links away as well. Tuchel might have to give him another chance though if we don’t get anyone in. 

[Vesper 29,408]

I keep seeing Isak mentioned

we are NOT paying 90m euros for him (his new release clause as he just renewed until 2026)

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  On 07/07/2021 at 17:02, Pizy said:

I could absolutely see us panic buying Danny Ings on deadline day after fucking about and failing everywhere else.

Actually wouldn’t be a bad buy, tbh. He’s the sort of striker who wouldn’t stand in our way of pursuing Haaland or someone else next summer and would remain a great squad option for several years.

Could see Ings bagging 15 PL goals in our team for sure.

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I cannot see us making a move for Ings, who is 29yo in 2 weeks and has a shit injury history, BUT his refusal to renew will likely fuck us to a point in unloading Tammy for a decent price, as the same clubs who want Tammy also will now go for Ings (West Ham, Villa, etc)

[milka 3,374]

 If really Tuchel want Rice and an offer is being prepared for it who will be sold ?

Kovacic ? 

[Superblue 6,372]

  On 07/07/2021 at 22:28, Vesper said:

I cannot see us making a move for Ings, who is 29yo in 2 weeks and has a shit injury history, BUT his refusal to renew will likely fuck us to a point in unloading Tammy for a decent price, as the same clubs who want Tammy also will now go for Ings (West Ham, Villa, etc)

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In all honesty I don't know if that will be viewed as a big enough step up for Ings. 

He was at Liverpool and that spell was just completely wrecked by injury. I think he'll look to back himself for a move to a big 6 team and try to write those wrongs. 

Depends on Southampton's stance with a move this summer but even next summer just hitting 30, I think on a free he would be pretty desirable across the Prem, even for the top clubs because he'd be a more than decent rotational option.

[Superblue 6,372]

  On 07/07/2021 at 22:32, milka said:

 If really Tuchel want Rice and an offer is being prepared for it who will be sold ?

Kovacic ? 

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Why would we sell someone, we need minimum 4 midfielders in the squad and Gilmour has already left on loan.

[Vesper 29,408]

  On 07/07/2021 at 22:32, milka said:

 If really Tuchel want Rice and an offer is being prepared for it who will be sold ?

Kovacic ? 

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zero chance of that (Kova being sold to fund Rice)

[King Kante 1,563]

  On 07/07/2021 at 14:51, Blues Forever said:

In the recent years i can only think about Luiz, Kepa, and Ziyech. The rest including Werner, Pulisic, Kovacic are hardly discreet.

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Well it depends how you look at things. The transfers such as Werner and Pulisic were linked but it looked like they were going elsewhere. Hence, a load of posts about the board not knowing what they were doing, then boom, done deal. 

So, I think this is a slight semantics issue, no the club aren't so discreet that absolutely nothing gets reported (although they have done on occasion) but they work in a way were it seems like we're behind others and/or not doing much. 

My issue with posts here is that there are some people losing their sh*t over not having a signing yet. However, for all we know they could be working hard on Håland. 

Thus, if Håland was announced in four weeks time, people wouldn't class it as discreet as it was reported, however to do a deal like that would mean constant negotiations for months. So, if we do, then we have been discreet currently as there aren't constant updates (like Werner for instance were most of the noise was to the Dippers.)

  On 07/07/2021 at 20:28, OneMoSalah said:

Aye it doesn’t look great for Tammy but at the same time, will we get the apparent 35/40m price we want for him? Who’s going to replace him if we aren’t able to get deals for Haaland or Lukaku?

Theres no other real links to CFs which is a huge concern and we hopefully won’t just buy an average player for the sake of it.

It would probably be stupid to sell either of Tammy or Giroud without making a purchase first in that area. Giroud is the only one with any sort of concretely links away as well. Tuchel might have to give him another chance though if we don’t get anyone in. 

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Watkins raised £35m last season with zero PL experience. Tammy, despite his flaws, is a proven regular scorer in England, is young and has the English tax factor. £35m+ is quite achievable imo as there are plenty of middle PL clubs that need a goal scorer (Brighton, Palace, Newcastle, West Ham etc.)

  On 07/07/2021 at 22:32, milka said:

 If really Tuchel want Rice and an offer is being prepared for it who will be sold ?

Kovacic ? 

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Does TT really want Rice? The guy isn't very good at breaking the lines with either his passing or running. Imo, if he does come it won't be long before he is converted to a CB role; especially in a 3. 

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[King Kante 1,563]

  On 08/07/2021 at 00:18, NikkiCFC said:

 

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There had better be a fee involved. 

[Vesper 29,408]

  On 08/07/2021 at 00:20, King Kante said:

There had better be a fee involved. 

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#Calciomercato,#Milan | The deal with Chelsea for #Giroud close to closure, but there is something new: the details

 

 

[Vesper 29,408]

Arsenal offer £17.1m midfielder Houssem Aouar 

https://le10sport.com/football/mercato/exclu-mercato-ol-arsenal-vient-de-degainer-pour-aouar-557339

[Blues Forever 1,232]

Basically Haaland or bust.

[DH1988 1,336]

Lautaro, what a waste of space, glad those links stopped with us.