Chelsea Transfers

[Superblue 6,370]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

I so hope so, but the expenditure to bring him in, pay him for 5 to 7 years years and dump Kepa at a massive loss is (over 7 years, 2 now plus 5 to come)

closing in on half a BILLION quid, net, for just our number one keeper

If there was some sort of Kepa/Oblak deal done it would be done in the same way as Pjanic/Arthur (i.e. 2 separate transactions rather than one deal) which would significantly minimise the impact on FFP for this deal (assuming that is even going to be a thing moving forward).

[Vesper 28,765]

On 14/07/2020 at 11:59 PM, Superblue_1986 said:

If there was some sort of Kepa/Oblak deal done it would be done in the same way as Pjanic/Arthur (i.e. 2 separate transactions rather than one deal) which would significantly minimise the impact on FFP for this deal (assuming that is even going to be a thing moving forward).

Oblak release clause is £108m

so £50m cash + Kepa puts Kepa's valuation at £58m

which is NEVER gonna happen

especially as he has 5 years left on his contract at £190K per week 

 £49.4m

if that actually happened then we just got Oblak for basically giving him to Atleti and paying his salary for 5 years

of course Oblak¨s salary if he came will be at least what he has now

which is the true deal killer from OUR end

it is now £18.9m per year with the exchange rate

so if we signed him to 5 years, that is £94.5m amortised outlay just to match

if he demands a 7 year deal,  (he is 27 now, 28yo in January) that is £132m amortised in salary outlays over 7 years

£363K per week 

 

[Superblue 6,370]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

Oblak release clause is £108m

so £50m cash + Kepa puts Kepa's valuation at £58m

which is NEVER gonna happen

especially as he has 5 years left on his contract at £190K per week 

 £49.4m

if that actually happened then we just got Oblak for basically giving him to Atleti and paying his salary for 5 years

of course Oblak¨s salary if he came will be at least what he has now

which is the true deal killer from OUR end

it is now £18.6m per year with the exchange rate

so if we signed him to 5 years, that is £93m amortised outlay just to match

if he demands a 7 year deal,  (he is 27 now, 28yo in January) that is £130m amortised in salary outlays over 7 years

£358K per week (almost double Kepa's GROSS)

BUT those Oblak figures are NET for Oblak

you can multiple by roughly 1.7 to get the gross

around £610K PW gross

£160m or so for 5 years, £222m for 7 years just in salary outlays

madness, we cannot afford him, plus imagine the effect on ALL of or other players

even if we pay them £200K PW (most make far less), they are making less than a third of what our GK is on both a net and a gross basis!

Wow, never had a clue his wages were that high. No wonder Atletico are reported to be really struggling through this period if they're handing out contracts like that.

[Vesper 28,765]

14 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Wow, never had a clue his wages were that high. No wonder Atletico are reported to be really struggling through this period if they're handing out contracts like that.

the big 3 La Liga teams, plus Manure, Shitty, and especially Juve, PSG, and Bayern all have insane wage bills

 

Barca and Real are on another planet

and again these INSANE numbers below, are NET

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/football-leaks-reveal-lionel-messis-staggering-wages-barcelona-signing-new-contract-147118

Lionel Messi pockets in the region of €2million-a-week with his astonishingly lucrative new contract at Barcelona, according to a new report by Football Leaks.

Messi ended growing speculation over his long-term future in November when he put pen to paper on a new deal that keeps him at the Camp Nou until 2021.

While it was widely assumed that the new contract was possibly the most lucrative in the history of the sport, the specific financial details that have emerged confirm that the five-time Ballon d'Or winner earns around €100m-a-year.

The 30-year-old forward will earn €71m annual wages under the new contract, with the rest coming from image rights. It's approximately twice what Real Madrid superstar Cristiano Ronaldo earns.

There are other significant incentives written into the contract, including a €70m bonus for Messi if he stays at Barca for the entire duration of his contract. In addition to that, his buy-out clause stands at an astronomical €700m.

 

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/football-leaks-lionel-messi-s-100-million-euro-contract-a-1187549.html

The documents show that Messi is to receive an annual fixed salary of 71,053,846 euros through the end of the 2020/21 season. He is also to get a one-time bonus of 63.5 million as well as a "loyalty bonus" of 70 million euros. On top of that come performance bonuses. If the team wins the Champions League, for example, Messi would receive an additional 12,057,513 euros.

If the Argentinian takes to the field for at least 60 percent of all matches over the next four years and fulfils his contract through its end date of June 30, 2021, then he can be certain of an average annual income of 106,347,115 euros. And if FC Barcelona were to achieve a "treble" -- winning the Champions League, the Spanish league title and the Spanish cup all in a single season -- and Messi were named FIFA player-of-the-year, he would make 122,515,205 euros for that season.

[NikkiCFC 7,941]

This is too much money to spend on GK.

Cech was 7m, Courtois 8m... Can we just find something like that. Turkish guy is my number one target.

[Vesper 28,765]

but, for actual perspective,

on multiple single DAYS

Jeff Bezos has made 10 times what Messi makes in a YEAR

[DDA 9,690]

32 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

This is too much money to spend on GK.

Cech was 7m, Courtois 8m... Can we just find something like that. Turkish guy is my number one target.

We done well with Cech and Courtois. Well when Courtois could keep his legs closed.

[Vesper 28,765]

36 minutes ago, Vesper said:

but, for actual perspective,

on multiple single DAYS

Jeff Bezos has made 10 times what Messi makes in a YEAR

but to put BEZOS in perspective

by the 1850's or 1860's

one family, the combined Houses of Rothschild

controlled, directly or indirectly

an estimated 55% of the entire wealth on the whole planet

the only time in human history one entity controlled over half of the planetary wealth

by the 1870's and on that slipped (supposedly, lolol)

in today's pounds

as the estimated worth of the planet itself, everything on it, is 5 quadrillion (5,000 trillion) USD ie £4 quadrillion

that would mean one family controlled

£2.2 QUADRILLION

£2,200,000,000,000,000

so taking Roman's all-time net worth high (roughly £22 billion)

you would need 100,000 Roman Abramovich's to equal what that one family controlled in today's pound sterling

more than a Camp Nou at current capacity's number of Roman's (and that is at his all time high, you probably now need 180,000 to 200,000 Romans (as the rouble and oil prices have shit out since his peak net worth) as of today

that is wealth comparative extrapolation to the largest degree that is currently possible until we discover other life forms on other planets (or humans literally start buying/seizing up other planets and quadrants of the solar system and beyond)

[AOIRO 64]

I think Donnnarumma can be sold only 35m .

He has one years contract remaining .

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[DDA 9,690]

6 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

 

Waiting to see if we get CL.

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[Puliiszola 519]

12 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

 

Why would we want to pay 20m a year in wages for alaba. 

[Vesper 28,765]

7 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

 

 

If Real sells us Varane they would have plenty of money for Alaba!

 

 

[coolhead23 1,146]

Dont understand the Oblak thing ... yes he is one among the top 3 but that is too much money (not that I care the money spend). If we have a situation where there is limited money then would rather invest the money on good defenders + someone like Onana ... Defending is not one man's job (Yes De Gea has single handed kept United floating for quite few years) and our entire unit in front of our goal is very dicey. 

P.S. 2 good defenders + good LB + Oblak ... all for it. 

[coolhead23 1,146]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

 

If Real sells us Varane they would have plenty of money for Alaba!

 

 

... why would they, Varane is their Ramos ..