DDA 9,983 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) Spent the whole of last season getting battered at the back and playing toothless in attack. Incomings: Tosin and Guiu 👏 Edited July 23, 2024 by DDA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,295 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) 17 minutes ago, DDA said: Spent the whole of last season getting battered at the back and playing toothless in attack. Incomings: Tosin and Guiu 👏 TBF, we can't use the manager as an excuse then demand better players, if the reports are true and we worked on zero tactics just hard work, no wonder we got battered in the back and toothless in attack. And to add to that, no tactics just hard work and we still nearly got top 4 with a bunch of players this forums believes are mid table worthy... So either the manager was that bad that the players dragged us on, or the players are that bad poch did a good job, can't be both Edited July 23, 2024 by YorkshireBlue bluesman2610 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 23, 2024 Popular Post! Share Posted July 23, 2024 Best CB Chalobah? 🤣 Of 51 games in the season he started just 13. So basically played just 25% of the games. In those 13 games we conceded 17 goals and had just 3 clean sheets. Against City and Liverpool he was introduced from the bench with 20 and 8 mins and we conceded only when he stepped on the pitch. Was never more than 4th or 5th option. Tomori and Guehi also academy players are like 5 times better players and nobody cares about them and btw I don't think they are good enough either. Crazy what some fans are doing. Probably same people who were crying for months about possibility of Mount leaving. Pizy, Vesper, bluesman2610 and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,295 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 7 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Best CB Chalobah? 🤣 Of 51 games in the season he started just 13. So basically played just 25% of the games. In those 13 games we conceded 17 goals and had just 3 clean sheets. Against City and Liverpool he was introduced from the bench with 20 and 8 mins and we conceded only when he stepped on the pitch. Was never more than 4th or 5th option. Tomori and Guehi also academy players are like 5 times better players and nobody cares about them and btw I don't think they are good enough either. Crazy what some fans are doing. Probably same people who were crying for months about possibility of Mount leaving. It's amazing how embarrassing our fan base has become since we lost our sugar daddy. NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 2 hours ago, Pizy said: Chalobah should be sold but £25m seems extremely low. In an era where random, unknown teenagers are going for that amount or more I feel like we should be asking around £35m for an established PL CB. One who’s only 25 and homegrown. Especially if we’re going to sell him to a club we’re competing against. Pizy and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,507 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) 11 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Best CB Chalobah? 🤣 Of 51 games in the season he started just 13. So basically played just 25% of the games. In those 13 games we conceded 17 goals and had just 3 clean sheets. Against City and Liverpool he was introduced from the bench with 20 and 8 mins and we conceded only when he stepped on the pitch. Was never more than 4th or 5th option. Tomori and Guehi also academy players are like 5 times better players and nobody cares about them and btw I don't think they are good enough either. Crazy what some fans are doing. Probably same people who were crying for months about possibility of Mount leaving. If he isn't our best CB he is 2nd after Colwill, Disasi and Badiashile are a joke, Tosin remains to be seen but doubt he is that good. Fofana waiting for see if he can play 2 full games before we're talking but he is probably perma wrecked. And for the record I don't even rate Chalobah wanted him out for a long time but the situation right now is so bad he is probably the least worst out of a bunch. Edited July 23, 2024 by TheHulk Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,507 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) 47 minutes ago, DDA said: Spent the whole of last season getting battered at the back and playing toothless in attack. Incomings: Tosin and Guiu 👏 If we get Samu who is a worse player, doubt we will ever see Guiu wear the shirt in an official match. Edited July 23, 2024 by TheHulk Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 the clownlake way buy high - sell low buy random average 20yos - sell proven homegrown quality you really could not make this up. It’s like watching the Grinch play Football Manager Vesper and bigbluewillie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,633 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 wont care if chalobah leaves, something similar with how i felt about mount. idk why yall think hes worth more than 25-30m... mkh and Reddish-Blue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,707 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 By the way, where did the Duran links go south? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,633 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 also, would be really happy if could buy bobb and alvarez from city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,823 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 20 minutes ago, TheHulk said: If he isn't our best CB he is 2nd after Colwill, Disasi and Badiashile are a joke, Tosin remains to be seen but doubt he is that good. Fofana waiting for see if he can play 2 full games before we're talking but he is probably perma wrecked. And for the record I don't even rate Chalobah wanted him out for a long time but the situation right now is so bad he is probably the least worst out of a bunch. It has become a thing for people to hate on Disasi, but he was played most of our games last year and has better numbers than Trev. I’m not saying Disasi is all that, but Trev has not been better in the limited time he played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,633 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: It has become a thing for people to hate on Disasi, but he was played most of our games last year and has better numbers than Trev. I’m not saying Disasi is all that, but Trev has not been better in the limited time he played. some players will always be hated by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,507 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 5 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: It has become a thing for people to hate on Disasi, but he was played most of our games last year and has better numbers than Trev. I’m not saying Disasi is all that, but Trev has not been better in the limited time he played. Both are poor for a top club but Disasi played most because he was our only injury free CB, Chalobah came from injury and needed minutes to get into rhythm, as soon as that happened Disasi was left in the dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said: TBF, we can't use the manager as an excuse then demand better players, if the reports are true and we worked on zero tactics just hard work, no wonder we got battered in the back and toothless in attack. And to add to that, no tactics just hard work and we still nearly got top 4 with a bunch of players this forums believes are mid table worthy... So either the manager was that bad that the players dragged us on, or the players are that bad poch did a good job, can't be both TBH, both the players and manager were bang average last season. We only made top 4 because of a certain Cold Palmer and the increasing good form of a few players such as Caicedo and Jackson. This transfer window didnt need any more average players or another 3+ unproven teenage talents come through the door. It needed 1 top CB, 1 top Striker, 1 top GK and we could have even waited for another winger and concentrated on developing the wingers we have already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,295 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 4 minutes ago, DDA said: TBH, both the players and manager were bang average last season. We only made top 4 because of a certain Cold Palmer and the increasing good form of a few players such as Caicedo and Jackson. This transfer window didnt need any more average players or another 3+ unproven teenage talents come through the door. It needed 1 top CB, 1 top Striker, 1 top GK and we could have even waited for another winger and concentrated on developing the wingers we have already. But that won't happen now, clubs not buying these "top" players every transfer window is the same and yet no one is getting the fact that isn't happening anymore, and we didn't need a top striker or a top CB, what we need is guidance and a clear way to defend and attack, we can't keep buying playing to fill a gap that won't fit the system any more doesn't work. Jackson got 14 goals in his first season, Palmer was immense caicedo finally started to click, we have fofana Reece nkunku and lavia coming back into the squad that's like 4 new signings there alone! What ever happend to giving a player a season to settle into a new league and a new culture? Or is it only Chelsea fans that believe that isn't a thing anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 42 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: It has become a thing for people to hate on Disasi, but he was played most of our games last year and has better numbers than Trev. I’m not saying Disasi is all that, but Trev has not been better in the limited time he played. Without info on whether the matches are really comparable, it's not really that useful comparison IMO. The issue is mostly about pace: Disasi is very slow and pretty average on the ball; while Trev has much more pace, even if he's just as average on the ball. Disasi is the worst by far because he forces a low block and he only did well when Poch lowered the lines towards the end of the season. Reckon Maresca won't be doing that tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) 21 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: But that won't happen now, clubs not buying these "top" players every transfer window is the same and yet no one is getting the fact that isn't happening anymore, and we didn't need a top striker or a top CB, what we need is guidance and a clear way to defend and attack, we can't keep buying playing to fill a gap that won't fit the system any more doesn't work. Jackson got 14 goals in his first season, Palmer was immense caicedo finally started to click, we have fofana Reece nkunku and lavia coming back into the squad that's like 4 new signings there alone! What ever happend to giving a player a season to settle into a new league and a new culture? Or is it only Chelsea fans that believe that isn't a thing anymore. I like Jackson but the fella missed too many sitters. Im all for allowing tine for players to develop but im not all for us being only a development club. Edited July 23, 2024 by DDA mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,295 Posted July 23, 2024 Share Posted July 23, 2024 23 minutes ago, DDA said: I like Jackson but the fella missed too many sitters. Im all for allowing tine for players to develop but im not all for us being only a development club. We won't be a development club, you don't spend 1 billion to be a development club, you spend that to get the old out and hit the reset button, about time this club was ran like a business because with these FFP rules something has to give, we also can't buy every young talent in the world either. If we can get the blend right and hopefully we have the right manager now, we have a team full of fearless kids, which will mature into decent potentially some of them world class, problem is it won't happen overnight or over the course of a few seasons. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted July 24, 2024 Share Posted July 24, 2024 Did anyone get injured on the flight to the US? bigbluewillie, Vesper and Hamilton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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