Vesper 31,037 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Thor said: This forum is pure dross. Same people wanting the next new shiny toy - after saying the previous shiny toy would answer our problems and get us back into top 4. Most of you are spoiled brats who don't want to give anything time to breathe and settle. We're oozing with talent that needs time to band together and gel. Our key players have been riddled with injuries this season, and we have a near completely new team. We'll just sign more players, y'all will act like the management team is finally doing something, then claim that player is shit - just like you guys have with every player we've signed. Its pure, pure dross on here. Some of you deal with a bit of adversity like peasants. Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,761 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 07/12/2023 at 03:54, Vesper said: Tah would be a disaster signing Fits very well here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,817 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Vesper said: I'm rocking out with my cock out. It is some of y'all playing these sad tunes acting like the world is over This is exciting for me. We have young talent, we are playing better football - and we just outplayed every team in the typical "top 4" talks in our stretch of games. Then we lose some winnable ones. Signs of a young team that just need to grow and add a bit of experience. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepower777 57 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Let's be honest there are a couple of players that we were conned by the selling clubs Brighton in particular. Cucerella is super shit while Caceido is decent but never worth that amount, couple of other clubs also scammed us. I'm not sure on what principles we decide to buy players or pay so much for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,710 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bluepower777 said: Let's be honest there are a couple of players that we were conned by the selling clubs Brighton in particular. Cucerella is super shit while Caceido is decent but never worth that amount, couple of other clubs also scammed us. I'm not sure on what principles we decide to buy players or pay so much for them. The thing about Caicedo - you can't really blame him. He is super young. If anything fingers need to be pointed by the recruiting team that shelved a huge amount for just one player. Both Enzo and Caicedo are among the youngest in the squad and are entrusted with the most critical roles on the pitch, in central midfield. If either of them are off their game, the team is punished for it. Can they grow by just learning from each other, and with no experienced head in central midfield to learn from? I don't know. And if they don't, they are just going to be chastised for it. And say one of them eventually improves, are they going to stick around in a team that doesn't challenge for anything? The club could become just a feeder for another team that does. Strike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,761 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: And say one of them eventually improves, are they going to stick around in a team that doesn't challenge for anything? The club could become just a feeder for another team that does. this is the danger. I don't think we have a terrible squad and I do think some of the players are quality - Enzo, Palmer, Colwill, Reece - but I can see the good ones angling for a move if we continue to stockpile youngsters Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 The owners deserved the criticism they have received for the recruitment so far. But I have to give them credit, they are not shy about signing checks to go after who they want. Biggest overall signing in sports history for the Dodgers. How many owners would pull the trigger on that deal? There is no way that says chasing profit: That is chasing titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 January should be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 4 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: The owners deserved the criticism they have received for the recruitment so far. But I have to give them credit, they are not shy about signing checks to go after who they want. Biggest overall signing in sports history for the Dodgers. How many owners would pull the trigger on that deal? There is no way that says chasing profit: That is chasing titles. Titles? Nah they probably just have financial domination fetish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Titles? Nah they probably just have financial domination fetish in the Dodgers case they are deffo chasing titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Vesper said: in the Dodgers case they are deffo chasing titles I was obviously kidding. I don’t doubt they are successful franchise owners in US sports. But they are out of their depth in football and still think throwing money at average 20 yos will solve their problems here. It does not matter. Unless we start acquiring actual proven quality we will decline further as a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said: I was obviously kidding. I don’t doubt they are successful franchise owners in US sports. But they are out of their depth in football and still think throwing money at average 20 yos will solve their problems here. It does not matter. Unless we start acquiring actual proven quality we will decline further as a club oh, I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: I was obviously kidding. I don’t doubt they are successful franchise owners in US sports. But they are out of their depth in football and still think throwing money at average 20 yos will solve their problems here. It does not matter. Unless we start acquiring actual proven quality we will decline further as a club One of the worst things these guys can experience is success in a risky plan. They hit lightening after buying the Dodgers in going out and buying the best young kids that delivered in a few years. They still think it will come good at Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 We need a LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 49 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: We need a LB. Nuno Mendes Alphonso Davies Theo Hernández Federico Dimarco José Gayà Rayan Aït-Nouri Quilindschy Hartman Milos Kerkez Miguel Gutiérrez Borna Sosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,186 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Remember the days when we bought Fabregas and Diego Costa because they were good and not because they're prospects... I miss those days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,710 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: One of the worst things these guys can experience is success in a risky plan. They hit lightening after buying the Dodgers in going out and buying the best young kids that delivered in a few years. They still think it will come good at Chelsea. Probably works better in baseball, because with a better pitcher and better hitter playing on the field, your team can simply outplay the opposition all day long. Doesn't work that way in football which requires far more team chemistry and tactical know-how. The players individual stats won't count as much here. Again, because of their arrogance, they thought they knew better and proceeded to chop/change too quickly. Edited December 11, 2023 by Blue Armour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,636 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, chelsea_4_eva said: Remember the days when we bought Fabregas and Diego Costa because they were good and not because they're prospects... I miss those days... No problem with bringing prospects but least bring top prospects. Who the fuck approved to sign guys like Noni and Mudryk. Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,761 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 13 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: The owners deserved the criticism they have received for the recruitment so far. But I have to give them credit, they are not shy about signing checks to go after who they want. Biggest overall signing in sports history for the Dodgers. How many owners would pull the trigger on that deal? There is no way that says chasing profit: That is chasing titles. Yep, I don't think there's anything to doubt the intention of the owners. But their data models have thrown up some terrible players. Linked us with moves for Raphinha, Kimpembe, Edson Alvarez and led us to players like Noni, Mudryk, Jackson and Disasi. Of all the players their data has linked us to I can only think of Cole Palmer and Gordon at Newcastle who have been good in the last 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,817 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Strike said: Yep, I don't think there's anything to doubt the intention of the owners. But their data models have thrown up some terrible players. Linked us with moves for Raphinha, Kimpembe, Edson Alvarez and led us to players like Noni, Mudryk, Jackson and Disasi. Of all the players their data has linked us to I can only think of Cole Palmer and Gordon at Newcastle who have been good in the last 12 months. No one wanted Gordon. No one wanted to keep Jorgi. No one wanted Lukaku. But now we act like they are playing awesome and the board made a mistake. Reality is - the starters we have out there are mostly players that people here wanted. I can go back now to the threads saying "finally a proper number 9 who fights hard" for Jackson. Fans have wanted a model of consistent football style, youth promotion, and a semblance of growth within the club - and now that an ownership team is trying to do it, and hasn't turned it around in a year - everyone is saying buy more, buy better, change it up, we just need to win. Why can't anyone let things marinate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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