Mário César 1,293 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 loan with buy obligation its a very good scenario for us Fernando and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,293 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: With the next outgoing, our Current Players page will just be one page on the forum. The bloat reduction has been much swifter than I thought possible! it is unbelievable what has been happening with our squad, but I am not sad with all these departures the exits are of players we can live without, not of irrecoverable players it is necessary and gives us a lot of money to make our squad better than last season the most important thing is that we need players who want to be in Chelsea besides, without UCL we don't need a large squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mário César said: it is unbelievable what has been happening with our squad, but I am not sad with all these departures the exits are of players we can live without, not of irrecoverable players it is necessary and gives us a lot of money to make our squad better than last season the most important thing is that we need players who want to be in Chelsea besides, without UCL we don't need a large squad The principal reason we ended up 12 position...lots of turds and mixture of players that doesn't want to be here..with that our performance and level will increase exponentially coming season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,293 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Alabama said: The principal reason we ended up 12 position...lots of turds and mixture of players that doesn't want to be here..with that our performance and level will increase exponentially coming season I believe that, but there were many reasons problems with contracts, premature firing of Tuchel, a bad pre-season, many injuries (derived from changing the medical department too fast), poor performance of potter and the signings didn't work out (koulibaly and especially cucurella were a failure and fofana had too much time injured) losing rudiger and christensen at zero cost couldn't have happened, by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,821 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 He has a long way to go, but this kid Whisper has one hell of a leg on him! On the second clip you have to watch it until he takes the free kick from distance. He looks really tall for 17, but no idea how tall the players are he is playing against. I hope he makes it, I would love to keep using the name Whisper. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,963 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Barring any last second fuckery (which we know can happen with this new club negotiation group after the Ziyech & Ugarte moves) it really is incredible that we’ve sold off so many unwanted players so quickly and easily. I thought it would be nearly impossible to move Koulibaly this summer. Mega wages, was only here for 1 season, and he himself had expressed his intent to stay and turn his bad fortunes around at Chelsea. At BEST I thought we could perhaps loan him to a Serie A side. I figured Ziyech and Mendy would drag on all summer because they’d be merely fallback options for clubs that failed to get their primary targets. And again, thought we’d only be able to loan them. Mount and Havertz I expected to be kept and used by Poch as squad players. That we’re going to get £120m combined for the two of them is “pinch me in case I’m dreaming” stuff. The final hurdle we now have in getting rid of the last of the deadwood is finding solutions for Lukaku, Pulisic, RLC, and CHO. And unfortunately these 4 are probably the hardest to move. One of them (Lukaku) is a stubborn asshole and will only accept 1 club. Pulisic will probably have many options but seems perfectly happy to stay and be a squad player so I could see him staying. And CHO & RLC are on massive wages so will be extremely difficult to move permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,293 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Pizy said: Barring any last second fuckery (which we know can happen with this new club negotiation group after the Ziyech & Ugarte moves) it really is incredible that we’ve sold off so many unwanted players so quickly and easily. I thought it would be nearly impossible to move Koulibaly this summer. Mega wages, was only here for 1 season, and he himself had expressed his intent to stay and turn his bad fortunes around at Chelsea. At BEST I thought we could perhaps loan him to a Serie A side. I figured Ziyech and Mendy would drag on all summer because they’d be merely fallback options for clubs that failed to get their primary targets. And again, thought we’d only be able to loan them. Mount and Havertz I expected to be kept and used by Poch as squad players. That we’re going to get £120m combined for the two of them is “pinch me in case I’m dreaming” stuff. The final hurdle we now have in getting rid of the last of the deadwood is finding solutions for Lukaku, Pulisic, RLC, and CHO. And unfortunately these 4 are probably the hardest to move. One of them (Lukaku) is a stubborn asshole and will only accept 1 club. Pulisic will probably have many options but seems perfectly happy to stay and be a squad player so I could see him staying. And CHO & RLC are on massive wages so will be extremely difficult to move permanently. there are news that milan want again ruben about pulisic lyon want him also several italian clubs my problem is CHO but maybe a english midtable team could want him until the end of the summer mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,963 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, Mário César said: there are news that milan want again ruben about pulisic lyon want him also several italian clubs my problem is CHO but maybe a english midtable team could want him until the end of the summer Problem is, a midtable PL side couldn’t afford his huge wages unless he just agrees to take a big pay cut in order to start playing football again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,493 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Clarify what? Sell him already. xPetrCechx, Vesper and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,293 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Sell that snake Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pizy 18,963 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Mount really does seem intent on destroying all the good will he built up with Chelsea supporters here. Vesper, Johnnyeye and xPetrCechx 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,293 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pizy said: Mount really does seem intent on destroying all the good will he built up with Chelsea supporters here. yeah fuck him we need that money and he is at least good player and we don't need him he can go Vesper and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,293 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 so until now: 16Mpounds - Mendy 21Mpounds - Koulibaly 25+5M pounds - Kovacic 65M pounds - Havertz Which money we will get by selling Zyech? 10M pounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mário César said: Which money we will get by selling Zyech? 10M pounds? 8m I think. That would be 136m guaranteed. Not sure how good that is, but we might still sell Mount, RLC, Aubameyang and Pulisic. Edited June 25, 2023 by Cosmin Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,344 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Why we have this double standards? What happened to our ambition? 600m in last 12 months spent and surely we will spend another 200m now. Imagine Guardiola spending 800m in 14 months. That would be walk in the park title if not everyone would make fun of him. Yet we are here, everyone is like top4 would be amazing success after spending so much money never seen before. Sorry but with that money top4 should never be in question and title push is must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,293 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Cosmin said: 8m I think. and how many pounds are add ons in havertz deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,293 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Why we have this double standards? What happened to our ambition? 600m in last 12 months spent and surely we will spend another 200m now. Imagine Guardiola spending 800m in 14 months. That would be walk in the park title if not everyone would make fun of him. Yet we are here, everyone is like top4 would be amazing success after spending so much money never seen before. Sorry but with that money top4 should never be in question and title push is must. depend on what players we will get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said: Why we have this double standards? What happened to our ambition? 600m in last 12 months spent and surely we will spend another 200m now. Imagine Guardiola spending 800m in 14 months. That would be walk in the park title if not everyone would make fun of him. Yet we are here, everyone is like top4 would be amazing success after spending so much money never seen before. Sorry but with that money top4 should never be in question and title push is must. Context matters. Everything was rushed since the new owners came in and the need for a rebuilt has been there since a long time ago. Last season was a huge mistake and we need to learn from it. This summer is essential and it will teach us a lot about the direction of the club. The man that I trust out of all of those involved is Poch. I really believe in him and his methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,104 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Why we have this double standards? What happened to our ambition? 600m in last 12 months spent and surely we will spend another 200m now. Imagine Guardiola spending 800m in 14 months. That would be walk in the park title if not everyone would make fun of him. Yet we are here, everyone is like top4 would be amazing success after spending so much money never seen before. Sorry but with that money top4 should never be in question and title push is must. Get real. We are not even a top 10 team yet. Laylabelle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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