Vegetable 830 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 25 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: One bad season is not a mess. Nah, I don't even mean sole results. Constant problems with recruitment, lack of leadership, no clear direction and uncertainty since Roman was banned, the transfer ban, subpar staff during Lampard's stint, the injuries back then and during Potter's regime, now Clearlake trying to get a grip, issues with FFP, issues with sponsors. Getting it in order will take time, maybe prime years of some players. First season was bad, I give people right to judge whether they trust owner's idea to make it right during second one, apparently Mount wasn't into it, especially that Chelsea never had been an individual stardom kind of team and MM may want to be hero, so this particular departure I'm least surprised with, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,477 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 mount is a nice player but 60m pounds is really a good deal for us he won't be missed, tbh Fernando, mkh and Norfolkblue1961 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, whats happening said: why arent we after this turkish wonderkid Because we are working under the radar as opposed to last year. No one knows who we are looking at (bar Caicedo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,714 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 51 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: One bad season is not a mess. Depends on what's happening behind the scenes. Under Abramovich we've had a couple of really bad seasons But star players never left in droves like this. Fans are laughing now because it's Kai & Mount, and not Drogba or Hazard. But the fact that the likes of Drogba and Hazard stuck with us through tough times, and players are jumping ship here at first sight, speaks a lot about the club and its current state of affairs. robsblubot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mário César said: mount is a nice player but 60m pounds is really a good deal for us he won't be missed, tbh Man with these clowns at the helm I'm missing Timo fucking Werner! 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: Depends on what's happening behind the scenes. Under Abramovich we've had a couple of really bad seasons But star players never left in droves like this. Fans are laughing now because it's Kai & Mount, and not Drogba or Hazard. But the fact that the likes of Drogba and Hazard stuck with us through tough times, and players are jumping ship here at first sight, speaks a lot about the club and its current state of affairs. Honestly the first window was a mess, Todd should bear the brunt of that. Then they tried to appease Tuchel. He is showing at Bayern that his desired picks are almost always players that will not improve the club. Followed by Potter. That truly was a mess. I think since the appointing of the new directors of football operations and recruitment and stepping away to let them handle transfers and Poch coming in, we are turning that corner. Perhaps all the mess and the stalking had an effect on Mase? Shipping out Havertz for the price we received was nothing short of brilliant. He is absolutely surplus with Nkunku coming in. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Vegetable said: He wants admiration, He literally gets cheered to the rafters at The Bridge despite underperforming for 18 months. You really think he'd get similar at Old Trafford? NikkiCFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 41 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: Depends on what's happening behind the scenes. Under Abramovich we've had a couple of really bad seasons But star players never left in droves like this. Fans are laughing now because it's Kai & Mount, and not Drogba or Hazard. But the fact that the likes of Drogba and Hazard stuck with us through tough times, and players are jumping ship here at first sight, speaks a lot about the club and its current state of affairs. Literally one of the last acts of the Roman reign was failing to convince two key defenders to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,477 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 32 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Honestly the first window was a mess, Todd should bear the brunt of that. Then they tried to appease Tuchel. He is showing at Bayern that his desired picks are almost always players that will not improve the club. Followed by Potter. That truly was a mess. I think since the appointing of the new directors of football operations and recruitment and stepping away to let them handle transfers and Poch coming in, we are turning that corner. Perhaps all the mess and the stalking had an effect on Mase? Shipping out Havertz for the price we received was nothing short of brilliant. He is absolutely surplus with Nkunku coming in. Our first problem was pur weak pre seasonp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Fernando and Blue Armour 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Caicedo may not happen as fast as we want due to balancing FFP. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,376 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Magic Lamps, Vesper and Fernando 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,050 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Pizy said: DD Fofana seemed like a puzzling buy the moment it emerged we were after him. Like some people at the club thought they were unearthing some gem that would turn into a worldie or something. I had a some hopes he might be a decent player, but apparently he was not good enough to even get pitch time in the middle of a shithole of a disasterclass season he seemed to have some swagger about him, and is a really good athlete, but it looks like he is not able to translate that to the game, at least arm I think some of us got caught up with a mythology that he might spring out, a la Botticelli's Venus, from a clamshell like a baby Drogba as DDF was also from Côte d'Ivoire DDF should have scored here (and he does look a badass striker physically) Edited June 22, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,661 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Mhsc said: Who’s that lad? some 18 yo from fenerbahche. arda guler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,637 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,257 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 So is Strasbourg going to be our Vitesse basically? A place where we can send a bunch of our young players to get experience at a high level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,637 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Fernando and Vesper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,723 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 60 million with add on I'm okay with that. Really good business for someone that don't want to be here. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,898 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Look at this motherfuckers. They target Reece James, because their favorite white english player they thought he was the future Chelsea captain turned out to be a snake and said fuck you to them. Now they attack a player who sign a new 8 year deal, as a final defence of the boy who left for money. I hate this cunts Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,050 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Here is a pretty compressive list of CMFs and DMFs out there that are doable (some much more than others) and still out there (as I type this) bold are my main options CMFs by valuation Frenkie de Jong (pipe dream) Nicolò Barella Alexis Mac Allister Mikel Merino Sergej Milinković-Savić Matheus Nunes Vitinha Rodrigo de Paul Nicolò Fagioli Marcos Llorente Gabri Veiga Manu Koné Ryan Gravenberch Orkun Kökcü Carlos Soler Seko Fofana Eljif Elmas Youssouf Fofana Maxence Caqueret Fabio Miretti Luka Sucic next summer Warren Zaïre-Emery DMFs by valuation Aurélien Tchouaméni Moisés Caicedo Manuel Ugarte Sandro Tonali Amadou Onana Martín Zubimendi Roméo Lavia Khéphren Thuram Teun Koopmeiners Sofyan Amrabat Manuel Locatelli Danilo Guido Rodríguez Samuele Ricci Florentino Arthur Vermeeren Alan Varela Lesley Ugochukwu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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