Chelsea Transfers

[NikkiCFC 8,062]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

Getting Cavani, on loan for example, might not be the worst of ideas. 

Loan is not an option. His contract expires in June. Atletico offered him two and a half years contract. We must do the same if we want him. But what does doing that means for our summer recruitment? 

Perfect scenario: We take him now to help us till end of the season. In the summer we send him to Atletico (we have perfect relationship with them) and go for Werner or Dembele. 

[Superblue 6,372]

18 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Loan is not an option. His contract expires in June. Atletico offered him two and a half years contract. We must do the same if we want him. But what does doing that means for our summer recruitment? 

Perfect scenario: We take him now to help us till end of the season. In the summer we send him to Atletico (we have perfect relationship with them) and go for Werner or Dembele. 

It would be a strange scenario but if Atletico can't agree a deal with PSG for this month then I suppose there is a possibility. PSG may want him out if he wants to leave anyway and agree a deal with us for a loan for the remainder of the season.

Perhaps we can trade them Giroud on loan in exchange. That way they still retain depth in their squad with someone who could probably do a decent job for them and get more game time than he does here.

Unless a real top target for us comes available for the right price, then a loan deal to improve our options at present is the best case scenario for us. We can't afford to be seen wasting transfer budgets any more.

[LAM09 6,794]

Getting Cavani, on loan for example, might not be the worst of ideas. 

I think any deal would have to be a permanent one. His contract is up in the Summer, so a similar one to Giroud's would be feasible.

[Jase 43,479]

A contrast to the Dembele denial last week...

[Pizy 18,432]

A Giroud type short contract does indeed make sense. 

[Special Juan 27,440]

Cavani attacking those Reece James crosses

[Vesper 29,046]

3 hours ago, Azul said:

What baffles me even more is that there are some that believe we don't need anyone

Those people are trolls and/or gaslighting dis-info merchants.

[OneMoSalah 8,789]

Cavani yes please. 1 and a half years. Would be an Excellent move.

[King Kante 1,504]

27 minutes ago, Jason said:

A contrast to the Dembele denial last week...

Well it is probably because he is realising that with this board toeing the line is only going to result in dire players or none at all. 

[NikkiCFC 8,062]

28 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

It would be a strange scenario but if Atletico can't agree a deal with PSG for this month then I suppose there is a possibility. PSG may want him out if he wants to leave anyway and agree a deal with us for a loan for the remainder of the season.

10m Atletico offered beats any loan deal tbh. They just want more. Lets offer 20m then sell him to Atletico in the summer for less.

[Pizy 18,432]

Really, all 3 of ourselves, Spuds, and United should be going hard after Cavani. Those two are even more desperate than we are so could probably offer a longer contract.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

Hell yeah let's bring in Cavani

[NikkiCFC 8,062]

Looks like Cavani wants only Atletico. United always offers biggest salaries so unfortunately I cant see this happening.

[NikkiCFC 8,062]

On 1/19/2020 at 10:22 AM, Vesper said:

As I have repeatedly posted, Isco is waiting until after Euro 2020 to decide his future (unless there is some 'secret' deal going on).

This doesn't have much sense and it was reported by Daily Star or something similar. Shit source.

He was not capped for Spain last three times (Sep, Oct, Nov) because he barely plays for Madrid.

So if he wants to go to EURO he needs to change team right now! Hazard and Asensio are coming back from injuries very soon so even less chance for him.

Lets try with loan. 

Magician!

 

[Vesper 29,046]

3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

This doesn't have much sense and it was reported by Daily Star or something similar. Shit source.

He was not capped for Spain last three times (Sep, Oct, Nov) because he barely plays for Madrid.

So if he wants to go to EURO he needs to change team right now! Hazard and Asensio are coming back from injuries very soon so even less chance for him.

Lets try with loan. 

Magician!

 

It came from multiple national Spanish sources with direct quotes from Isco

I shall try and dig it up

here is one (but not the 2 I am looking for, plus a video showing him talking)

https://eldesmarque.com/madrid/real-madrid/noticias/182278-isco-tiene-hasta-casa-mirada-adios-real-madrid-pacto-en-la-sombra-ed

[Vesper 29,046]

54 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Looks like Cavani wants only Atletico. United always offers biggest salaries so unfortunately I cant see this happening.

he wants La Liga and Ligue 1 because they are #pussyassbitch leagues

same as Trump

PAB

[Vesper 29,046]

Report: Chelsea target Alex Telles could be on the move this month

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/club-news/report-chelsea-target-alex-telles-could-be-on-the-move-this-month/

Chelsea target Alex Telles could be on his way out of FC Porto this month. A Bola has reported that the Portuguese club are keen to avoid losing him on a free when his contract is up in 18 months.

They are said to be interested in allowing the Brazilian to move on this month if the price is right. The 27-year-old left-back has a 40 million Euro release clause but could be available for even less if he makes his intentions to leave the club clear.

The Blues are in desperate need of a full-back this month. Lampard has made Cesar Azpilicueta his preferred left-back choice, but his reliance on his right side limits the Chelsea threat down the left. Although the Spaniard does a job there, his tendency to shift the ball onto his right slows down attacks constantly. Lampard needs a left-sided left-back to play the system he wants to effectively.

Marcos Alonso and Emerson have been deemed surplus to requirements and Chelsea should seriously consider a move for Telles. His release clause is not high considering his ability and he would be a big upgrade at left-back. Not only is he strong defensively, but he also poses a massive threat going forward.

 

SNIP

51 assists (many against pretty decent teams in the CL plus the other big two teams in Portugal) in the last 3.5 seasons

DEADLY corner kick taker

[Vesper 29,046]

We are not going to get Werner, I am going to just accept that now (and IT SUCKS)

Chilwell is not worth £80m

and we need to be prepared to pay crazy money for Sancho (130m or more and we need to do that)

 

leaving these as my best possible outcomes by the time summer 2020 ends:

 

CB Varane (work out a swap deal with Real for Kante, and maybe some prospect from RM) Either way Kante needs to be sold and we can then spend elsewhere or buy Skriniar or Caglar Söyüncü (which will also leave money left over)

LB Telles (an Alonso sale would cover most or all)

LB Gosens (work out a swap deal plus a wee bit of cash if needed for Emerson)

so all 3 should result in basically zero net spent on transfer fees IF we play our cards right, starting NOW ffs (at least on one of them) or actually result in money left over

leaving (actual spends)

DMF Camavinga or Declan Rice or N'didi (£60m to 70m or so, and I am NOT quite sold on the £50m Soumare, but will accept him IF the club thinks he is the best option of those 4, which I disagree with atm but will keep an open mind on for now)

CMF Saul (AM said £85m and he is sold, a steal at that price, he is creative, has a cannon shot, is good at pressing, and is a good passer)

AMF Gealish (£60m or so, especially if Villa go down) or some other one for less (Isco? Ziyech?)

Winger Sancho (£130m)

Winger  Boga (NOW) £13m << steal

CF Dembele (£45-50m or so) he is basically it of the options left IMHO (and I am not saying he is the dogs bollocks, but looks solid enough)

3rd string CF Josh Maja (£10m or so max)

That is around a net fee spend of £400m (as I included our two LB's being sold/swapped in there) BUT there is also a massive pile of money from other sales (already done or upcoming) plus Varane coming in allows us to sell one of our 4 CB's

given the revenues from sales (hundreds of millions) ALL those buys above can be afforded easily, easily

if someone says they cannot be afforded they are just full of shit (especially if we just leave CB alone for now but still sell Kante which then reduces the costs to only around £300m (again after tossing in our 2 LB's) and IF we fail on Sancho as well, and buy a Zaha or some other winger for around 50-70m or so in the summer) the costs are then down to only £210-220m gross (which just the Hazard, Morata, Bakayoko and Bats sales easily cover, and technically IF we get the full £135m for Hazard, it only takes his revenue, Morata's and Bakayoko's but I am being conservative here)

we need to get cracking on ALL that can be done this window (as we have dire needs NOW) and sure as hell be ears 'n tails up as summer 2020 approaches

IF we get those done (the only 2 huge stretches are the Varane/Kante swappie and then winning the Sancho Derby)

we are then a CLEAR number three in the EPL team for years (eventually challenging for the title) and can go deep in the CL

 

IF you remove the Varane/Kante swap and yet STILL say these are impossible, that this is FM bullshit, then you do realise (and I have ALREADY REMOVED WERNER AND CHILWELL from the whole thing) that you basically are saying any and indeed most all of our targets and needs are simply not going to get done (or done to a half-arsed degree), or enough of them will not happen to the point that the club is going to be fucked in terms of significant upgrades. None of those moves (other than Kante swap) have not been discussed or concretely confirmed as the price it takes (roughly, I do admit to putting a price on Grealish, but 60m sounds fair, especially if Villa go down to get it done.)

If we do not get hardly anything done this January (which is a very real possibility)

we have then had SIX disastrous windows in a row when judged overall (with a few decent exceptions)

2017 summer

2018 January

2018 summer

2019 January

2019 summer (banned)

2020 January

 

the good from there is easy to list, as it is so little

Rudiger, Pulisic, Kovacic, Jorginho

that is it

in fact if you add Kante and Pedro

that is it for the past 9 (and possibly 10 if we cock this January up) windows in terms of good buys

compare that to the DISASTROUS non timely sales, shit buys, horrid contractual management, moronic sales turn-downs, and botched up non buys

and now, to add insult to injury, Kepa is increasing looking like a £142m (£72m fee plus 7 years of near 200K PW salary) nightmare bollocksing

SMDH

 

so FM slate me all you want

I am not the one with more than half a billion quid in various and sundry assorted styles of potential and/or oh so very real cock ups over the past 5 years