Chelsea Transfers

[ZAPHOD2319 4,476]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

you know his face surely

Yes, yes I do now that you post it. He is a tool.

[Superblue 6,370]

11 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I agree if we are talking over £70m (81m euros) and up

76m euros (£65m) is the absolute most I would drop, if that isn't enough, they can fuck off

 

due to contractual issues lowering their cost (Gnabry and Sterling) 

and injuries (Chiesa and Wirtz (perhaps at that level of spend, not sure) being off the summer 2022 board)

there are ZERO wingers/AMF's who are actually available and who would come here who are worth a £70m or more expenditure on,

ZERO (Mbappe is never coming here unless its as a 30 something in decline, and why would we do that anyway)

 

the only players this window who could and would actually come here

(so NO Mbappe, no Håland, no de Bruyne, no Ruben Dias, no Foden, no Kane, no Luis Diaz, no Vlahovic, no Lauraro, no Hakimi, no Kimmich, no Theo (barely at the 70m level), no VVD (last year for him at that level), no Sane, no Neymar, no Rodri, no Jota (barely qualifies atm), no Cancelo, no Bastoni, no Saka, no Salah (last year for him at that level), no TAA, no Alphonso Davies, no Robertson, no Bernardo, no Vini Jr, no Alisson, no Goretzka, no Oblak, no Ederson, no Mane (last year for him), no Grealish, no Donnarumma (barely qualifies atm), no Snake Cuntois, no Son (last year for him at that level), or no Pedri

and no Chiesa or perhaps Wirtz (I am not sure I would dump £70m on him yet), both due to injury taking them off the market this summer only)

and are worth a £70m and up layout are

Rice, de Ligt, Skriniar, Marquinhos (very unlikely), Osimhen, Aurélien Tchouaméni (£73m, ie 85m euros max and that is pushing it pretty hard), Nicolò Barella, and Bellingham

Sancho, Nkunku, Gavi, Frenkie de Jong, Federico Valverde, João Félix, Mikel Oyarzabal, Sergej Milinković-Savić, Gnabry, and Sterling (the last two due to contract situs pushing down their cost) are close but no cigar atm, and Wirtz and Chiesa are injured, and Ansu Fati needs to be healthy for 2 straight years to get up into the huge valuation club for me again. if he had never had any injuries at topflight level, he would be the 2nd most valuable winger, after Mbappe, on the planet now)

 

When talking attacking players, for me, I'm very much in the Dembele camp if we're looking for a 'game changer' in the attacking positions.

The injury record is the real worry for him, but I think that is somewhat negated if we bag him on a free transfer (although fully aware wages would be high).

The Dembele seen in the second half of this season at Barca is one free from niggling injuries and confident. If he's over some of those muscular injuries that have ravaged his Barca career and he has a manager in Tuchel who absolutely loves him, it could spell a recipe for big success.

A lot of our players like to play in front of the defender, Dembele would give us an option we've lacked since Hazard left, someone who is both capable and willing to take responsibility with the ball and take defenders on to make things happen. He would potentially add a real new dimension to the attack and again, since Hazard, he has the potential to be the player who gets people out of their seat in anticipation and excitement. You need that type of player sometimes just to lift the whole atmosphere within a stadium.

If he doesn't renew with Barca, he is a complete no brainer in my eyes and one of those players who really justify the risk. 

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well, fuck, we may just end up having to pay the extortionist price for Rice

If Tchouameni is indeed Pool bound (or, lets face it, if not there he will go to Real now that they are now having to dump out 250 to 300m euros on Håland)

then its down (if we pass on Rice) to either paying too much for a lesser quality EPL player ( Wilfred Ndidi, Kalvin Phillips, Rúben Neves, Bruno Guimarães or Douglas Luiz)

or doing a dice roll on Boubacar Kamara (who would be free so probably the most likely play if we pass on Rice now)

 

Sandro Tonali (so hard to prise away from AC Milan)
Ismaël Bennacer      
Mohamed Camara   
Julian Weigl    
João Palhinha

and 

Danilo (21 yo from Palmeiras)

are pretty much the only other remotely viable options

Edited May 17, 2022 by Vesper

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27 minutes ago, Vesper said:

well, fuck, we may just end up having to pay the extortionist price for Rice

If Tchouameni is indeed Pool bound (or, lets face it, if not there he will go to Real now that they are now having to dump out 250 to 300m euros on Håland)

then its down (if we pass on Rice) to either paying too much for a lesser quality EPL player ( Wilfred Ndidi, Kalvin Phillips, Rúben Neves, Bruno Guimarães or Douglas Luiz)

or doing a dice roll on Boubacar Kamara (who would be free so probably the most likely play if we pass on Rice now)

West Ham will hold off competition for Rice this year I think. Likely to sell in 2023.

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I think the only way West Ham may sell Rice is if the offer is good, and they can bring in Kalvin Phillips to replace him if Leeds go down.

But I agree, I don't think West Ham will sell Rice this summer and they don't need to with 3 years left on his contract, they can still sell him next summer for a good price.

 

[Vesper 28,767]

1 hour ago, Superblue_1986 said:

When talking attacking players, for me, I'm very much in the Dembele camp if we're looking for a 'game changer' in the attacking positions.

The injury record is the real worry for him, but I think that is somewhat negated if we bag him on a free transfer (although fully aware wages would be high).

The Dembele seen in the second half of this season at Barca is one free from niggling injuries and confident. If he's over some of those muscular injuries that have ravaged his Barca career and he has a manager in Tuchel who absolutely loves him, it could spell a recipe for big success.

A lot of our players like to play in front of the defender, Dembele would give us an option we've lacked since Hazard left, someone who is both capable and willing to take responsibility with the ball and take defenders on to make things happen. He would potentially add a real new dimension to the attack and again, since Hazard, he has the potential to be the player who gets people out of their seat in anticipation and excitement. You need that type of player sometimes just to lift the whole atmosphere within a stadium.

If he doesn't renew with Barca, he is a complete no brainer in my eyes and one of those players who really justify the risk. 

Dembele on a free would great business

my main point that the only players on the planet worth paying £70m or up atm (and who would actually come here and are healthy enough to buy this summer)

is a short, short list (only 8 players, and soon 6 if Tchouameni and Marquinhos come off it) and there are NO wingers on it (as Chiesa is injured, and Gnabry and Sterling have contract issues pushing their price down under the £70m cut-off level)

Rice

de Ligt (easier now that Mino assumed room temp)

Skriniar

Marquinhos (very unlikely and it is his last year on this list as he is 28 in 4 days, so cannot see paying £70m or more for a player in 2023 who turns 30yo the same season (even if at the tail end) we buy him)

Osimhen

Aurélien Tchouaméni (£73m, ie 85m euros max and that is pushing it pretty hard, and looks to be either Pool or Real bound, ffs)

Nicolò Barella (tuff as fuck pull, I almost did not put him on the list, so I cannot bold him, as much as I do rate him)

Bellingham

 

the big boy buy market (in terms of ultra expensive players) for Chels is incredibly simple to follow, as there are almost none in it, and the ones who are in it, are talked to death about

 

Edited May 10, 2022 by Vesper

[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

I am secretly advising them, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

😂🤣

Well ******* well stop it then! 😀

[Vesper 28,767]

2 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Well ******* well stop it then! 😀

but they pay well and on time!

🤣

[Vesper 28,767]

1 hour ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Yes, yes I do now that you post it. He is a tool.

Richard Keys and his the cancer stricken wife, Julia (plus their daughter Jemma, an actress from the show Hollyoaks)

and here is Jemma's bestie, Lucie Rose, who he was shagging whilst mum was fighting cancer

Lucy is over 30 years younger than the old wankpuffin Keys

Keys also was sacked from Sky in 2011 over a sexism row

Keys - who works for beIN Sports in Qatar after resigning from Sky Sports in 2011 amid a sexism row - had previously admitted the fling with daughter Jemma's pal in a statement last year.

He said: "If you really love your wife but are tempted to get a bit of excitement elsewhere you have to be prepared to lose the one you really love — it just isn’t worth it."

Speaking to The Sun at the time, Julia said their 36-year marriage came crashing down shortly after moving to the Middle East when the presenter met Lucie.

She said: "He met Jemma’s friend Lucie, who was working in Doha, and the lies began. He claimed she and her friends thought of him as their 'Doha Dad'.

"I remember at Richard’s birthday party — and I haven’t told anyone this before — just as I was leaving, Lucie grabbed my arm and said: “Are you leaving now, Julia?” She was so insistent, and I thought it was odd — then Richard was ages coming home.

"When I questioned him, he’d said Lucie needed to talk to him as she had a problem.

"I don’t feel bitter towards Lucie, but deeply disappointed that she could devastate our family like this."

She later added that the affair had wrecked former Hollyoaks actress Jemma's chances of recovering from alcoholism.

Edited May 10, 2022 by Vesper

[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

4 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

The biggest issue I have with Nkunku is there feels a lot of similarities with Werner with the way in which he gets a lot of goals, i.e. space afforded to him.

It seems to be a common theme across the Bundesliga, but he thrives on those pockets of space in behind the defence. He won't get anywhere near the same space over here for a lot of the chances he gets in Germany.

Also whilst his goal record has blown up this season, he's never been a big goal scorer before this season. Is this season where it just all came together and he's hit a real purple patch in front of goal or is this him now making that level up to consistently producing such numbers? 

If he had a decent release clause he'd maybe worth having a go for him but if Leipzig want £60-70m or more, I would be weary dropping that amount of money for him.

I agree. The danger is there but his game looks tighter than Timo's to me. I'm not inviting people to take anymore meaning than just what I say here but, I see more similarities with Thierry Henry than with Timo. On balance, I'm with those who say that he's worth a look at the right price. 

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[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

35 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Dembele on a free would great business

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38 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Aurélien Tchouaméni

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36 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Nicolò Barella

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36 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Bellingham

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[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

32 minutes ago, Vesper said:

but they pay well and on time!

🤣

I'll let Todd know where he can find you. 🙂

[chelsea_4_eva 1,157]

Since Juve has shown interest in Jorgi and Emerson, maybe we can use them to bargain for De Ligt...

[Vesper 28,767]

10 minutes ago, chelsea_4_eva said:

Since Juve has shown interest in Jorgi and Emerson, maybe we can use them to bargain for De Ligt...

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Couldn't wait till the season ended

Edited May 10, 2022 by Strike

[ZAPHOD2319 4,476]

Do transfer windows still exist?

[ZAPHOD2319 4,476]