Chelsea Transfers

[whats happening 1,615]

1 hour ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

Probably find the club are waiting until after July 1st to start business, as it goes into next financial years books

 

sure, sure. last time it was waiting for june 10th for the start of the transfer window.

[Clockwork 1,794]

Declan Rice is the midfield version of Lukaku, what a waste of money that would be.

[Mário César 1,252]

city will get kalvin phillips

jesus christ we are so slow 

[YorkshireBlue 3,275]

38 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Declan Rice is the midfield version of Lukaku, what a waste of money that would be.

Do you even watch football? Declan rice has been class....

[Pizy 18,897]

10 minutes ago, Mário César said:

city will get kalvin phillips

jesus christ we are so slow 

The best and most complete squad in the league will have made  3 signings before we make any. And we’re the ones trying to catch up to them! 

[Hashishi 148]

44 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Declan Rice is the midfield version of Lukaku, what a waste of money that would be.

How can you compare someone who's duty it is to defend, with someone who's duty it is to attack? That's like comparing Kante to Messi. They are difficult to compare because one makes interceptions and one gets goals.

The main reason Lukaku was such a flop was the price tag. I can see Rice being underwhelming if he comes for 100m. However, he will completely change the dynamic of the team allowing us to move away from a back 3. We haven't been able to play 433 for a decade (refer to Sarris season where he played Jorgi at DM and Alonso Azpi as wingbacks.

Tuchel is more flexible and chooses his tactics based on the needs of the team rather than a specific talisman (e.g. Jorgi or Lukaku). If he gets the players for 433 I think he will make the switch. We have solved our WB problem, we just need a DM and Rice is the only one remotely available. He is friends with the academy graduates so wouldn't take too long to settle in and wouldn't even need to move from London. We just need to factor in the English tax which brings his value to around 70-80m which is what is being quoted in rumours.

[Hashishi 148]

My optimistic take for this transfer window.

In Raphinha, Rice, De Ligt + 1 CB, Clauss + LB cover

This is completely doable with 200m

GK Mendy (Slonina)

RB James(Clauss)

CB Silva(chalobah)

CB De Ligt (Colwill)

LB Chilwell(backup)

DM Rice (Jorgi)

CM Mount(Kante)

CM Kovacic(Gallagher)

LW Pulisic (Werner)

RW Raphinha (CHO)

ST Havertz (Broja)

Squad players: Azpi, RLC + whoever we can't get rid of( Batman, Kenedy, Barkley) otherwise use an academy product.

That is a good squad and the depth is great. We would definitely challenge Spurs for 3rd place as their depth is not as good as ours. They almost beat us to 3rd because they had no europe most of the season. I expect them to improve under Conte but the strain of CL will show eventually. Kane and Son can't play 60 games a season.

 

Edited June 24, 2022 by Hashishi

[YorkshireBlue 3,275]

41 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

My optimistic take for this transfer window.

In Raphinha, Rice, De Ligt + 1 CB, Clauss + LB cover

This is completely doable with 200m

GK Mendy (Slonina)

RB James(Clauss)

CB Silva(chalobah)

CB De Ligt (Colwill)

LB Chilwell(backup)

DM Rice (Jorgi)

CM Mount(Kante)

CM Kovacic(Gallagher)

LW Pulisic (Werner)

RW Raphinha (CHO)

ST Havertz (Broja)

Squad players: Azpi, RLC + whoever we can't get rid of( Batman, Kenedy, Barkley) otherwise use an academy product.

That is a good squad and the depth is great. We would definitely challenge Spurs for 3rd place as their depth is not as good as ours. They almost beat us to 3rd because they had no europe most of the season. I expect them to improve under Conte but the strain of CL will show eventually. Kane and Son can't play 60 games a season.

 

Chances of us going to a 4 back is highly unlikely. He may not have had full controls of transfer before but did have full control of the team.

[Hashishi 148]

2 minutes ago, Kong said:

Chances of us going to a 4 back is highly unlikely.

Says who? You? The only reason we don't play 433 like the big teams is that we don't have a proper DM.

3 minutes ago, Kong said:

He may not have had full controls of transfer before but did have full control of the team.

He chose 343 because it best suited the players we had. If he brings in players for a 433 he at least has the option. He tried to implement this multiple times over the season but Sarr is a terrible LB and we don't have a DM.

[Marvin123 530]

2 hours ago, Clockwork said:

Declan Rice is the midfield version of Lukaku, what a waste of money that would be.

You need to start watching football t rather then commenting on it without seeing a thing

Edited June 24, 2022 by Marvin123
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[King Kante 1,643]

38 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

Says who? You? The only reason we don't play 433 like the big teams is that we don't have a proper DM.

He chose 343 because it best suited the players we had. If he brings in players for a 433 he at least has the option. He tried to implement this multiple times over the season but Sarr is a terrible LB and we don't have a DM.

A few things: 

1) We haven't played well with a back four since 2015. Fell apart in Jose's last season and didn't fare much better after he left, under SFL we were defending like the keystone cops and under Sarri we were also poor which is why he then switch and went ultra Sarri-ball/possession based as we were all over the place defending in the more progressive version. 

2) Currently Silva is our best CB. Since he has been here he has primarily played the central role. Yes, the bloke is an absolute Rolls Royce of a player, however asking a 38 year old to play in a back 4 in the league after playing the last two in a 3 is super risky for both his health and the running he would have to do.

Second, Nate did well last season but he didn't strike me as a player you want in a back 4 as he need help on the cover a lot (which in ok in a back 3.)

Dave, may or may not be here next season but he cannot play anywhere in a back 4, same goes for Alonso and Sarr. So, of all our CB's and back up WB shouldn't be risked in a 4 without serious risk. Then you get to Colwill, yeah he could play in a 4 but talk about throwing the boy into the deep end. 

Of course we may end up with De Ligt but even he has played in a three a lot at Juve in a slower league. Kounde absolutely forget about him in a 4 at 5'9". So, the two CB's we've had strongest links with. Even the kid at RBL which has gone quite also plays in a three. 

So, yeah, we may not have a DM but that is because we've been playing with a 3atb and I don't really see TT moving from it as we would probably have to get 3 CB's plus two WB's to cover James and Chilwell who are the only two players in the squad you can say from the outset you would be comfortable in a 4 with. 

I do get the arguments for a move to a 4, however it isn't next season. In a best case scenario we get De Ligt and Colwill back and both hit the ground running and then we can experiment with a 4, then next season when Silva is done, we find another CB comfortable with a 4 and Nate can go to CB4. 

Additionally, I think we can all see that Rice wants to come back here and other teams with a need at DM are sorting that out now. In my opinion, he requires a waiting game as no way are we doing £100m+ on him. Next season he'll only have the year left and CM will definitely need looking at owing to the ages/contract situations with Jorgi and Kante (I recognise this is something people want sorted sooner, but imo it is down the list simply owing to the holes elsewhere.) 

Edited June 24, 2022 by King Kante

[YorkshireBlue 3,275]

1 hour ago, Hashishi said:

Says who? You? The only reason we don't play 433 like the big teams is that we don't have a proper DM.

He chose 343 because it best suited the players we had. If he brings in players for a 433 he at least has the option. He tried to implement this multiple times over the season but Sarr is a terrible LB and we don't have a DM.

That's only like saying who's saying we are going to a back four? You? Doesn't have the players? He's had transfer windows, so surely if he wanted 433 he would of made steps already? 

[Mário César 1,252]

Arsenal closer to signing Gabriel Jesus.

And we nothing... fucking pathetic 

[Pizy 18,897]

The ultimate irony in Arse suddenly becoming massive spenders as soon as the Roman era ends. Back to back windows where Arse will spend north of £150m if they land all their targets. 😒

All our top 4 rivals will have their squads with new signings available from preseason day 1. 

[guddy69 174]

20 minutes ago, Mário César said:

Arsenal closer to signing Gabriel Jesus.

And we nothing... fucking pathetic 

At least we aren't signing him.. 😊

[LAM09 7,050]

13 minutes ago, Pizy said:

The ultimate irony in Arse suddenly becoming massive spenders as soon as the Roman era ends. Back to back windows where Arse will spend north of £150m if they land all their targets. 😒

Roman's era didn't end 3 years ago - Arsenal FC - All transfers | Transfermarkt

[ZAPHOD2319 4,814]

#DeLigt : there has already been a first contact between #Juve and #Chelsea . The Blues have asked for information. The position of the bianconeri is clear: there is the will to reach the renewal, but a signal from the player is needed. Without it, new scenarios can be opened. 👀🇳🇱 @GoalItalia

[Tomo 21,751]

Seeing this thread reminds me of the sweeping statements made when our rivals were apparently going to leave us for dust by signing the likes of Bergwijn, Cedric, Bruno, Gelson, Ighalo and Pablo Mari in January 2020.

Edited June 24, 2022 by Tomo

[Pizy 18,897]

Di Marzio apparently saying Werner + cash is the offer.

Tbh, I think I’d rather keep Werner and sell Pulisic. 

[DDA 9,937]

8 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Di Marzio apparently saying Werner + cash is the offer.

Tbh, I think I’d rather keep Werner and sell Pulisic. 

I will miss Werners commitment and professionalism but let's have it right, he isn't Chelsea material. Pulisic still has many years ahead of him and I think he has far more ability than Werner which can shine more so if playing in the right team with the right players around him.