Styl1994 188 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Fernando said: Kounde is a good buy at this time. He is young and is a good passer. We have not have a good ball CB since David Luiz. If he can defend a bit better then David Luiz then worth it. If not sell him since he is young. I remember Ashley Cole was small as well and that didn't stop us from winning things. After Kounde I assume the CM will be a big player, like Rice. I wonder if SMS is still good? Tchouameni is also 6 ft 2 Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: I guess I have to post same thing I posted earlier today... Monchi explained why they rejected great offer from City. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-kounde-transfer-news-19270079 Also Kounde said that Pep called him. https://www.football-espana.net/2020/11/23/sevillas-jules-kounde-admits-he-spoke-with-pep-guardiola-about-move-to-manchester-city They also wanted KK before Dias but Napoli wanted 100m which City did not want to pay. Dias was 3rd option. Kounde was linked with United, City, Spurs, Chelsea, Barca, Real... They all probably know a thing or two about footy... And about Varane... He had this low price all summer, but apart from United he was not linked with anyone? Stats Varane vs Kounde: https://www.squawka.com/en/comparison-matrix/?compare=660pQ6uI8Xci6poIjWQL1 Fair enough but again, I still think there is a bit of overhyping on him. I mean I doubt City are kicking themselves either after seeing how good Dias has been (wanted us to sign him and Laporte ourselves in both those seasons they moved). As I said in the first post, Kounde is a good player but still has got to play at a high level consistently. Huge potential but potential is potential. Also throwing in a stats comparison between Varane who probably had the worst season of his 10 years at Real Madrid (which again he wasnt even that bad) against someone who had arguably his best season at Sevilla isn’t exactly going to convince anyone who has seen Varane play regularly since he started at Madrid that Kounde at €80m is a better buy than a World Cup winner who has also been part of a team thats won 18 trophies for £41m. Which is why I am baffled we didn’t consider a move for him considering the original links a while ago. £41m is a steal. Edited July 28, 2021 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,353 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 12 hours ago, Tomo said: While i agree there's question marks over his suitability to the PL calling him bang average is just wrong on many levels. I'm not going to wish ill on any player in blue, I hope he does well and proves me wrong, from what I have watched of him during last season, forget the Euros, I see nothing special and I'm concerned this is our level of target. Like I said, hope he proves me wrong and is a worldy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I guess it's close to what you both suggested. @Jype @Superblue_1986 Fernando and Superblue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,398 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Rudiger ? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,633 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) ok since kounde is a bust, who we buying as his replacement Edited July 28, 2021 by whats happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,374 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I hope Zouma does not make a problem. That is only thing that could fuck up a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jas said: I guess it's close to what you both suggested. @Jype @Superblue_1986 That doesn't seem too outrageous, and if the fee was 30M€ up front+ 5M€ add-ons then even better. Hopefully that will be enough for Sevilla. Basically that would mean the club traded Guehi, Tomori and Zouma for Koundé and got almost 20M€ cash on top. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,306 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Sevilla are after Kabak 17m and Boateng free so I doubt they accept Zouma. I still hope some PL team to overpay for him. Zouma is built for the EPL Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,374 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 We are really fucked if we dont get Haaland. Kane to City, Vlahovic to Spurs... After all this happen would not be surprised if we get desperate and drop 200m or something on Haaland. And I would support that deal. But if we dont get Haaland how depressing it would be, in the summer when we are desperate for striker and it is our number one goal for transfer window that two rivals get top strikers and we dont? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: We are really fucked if we dont get Haaland. Kane to City, Vlahovic to Spurs... After all this happen would not be surprised if we get desperate and drop 200m or something on Haaland. And I would support that deal. But if we dont get Haaland how depressing it would be, in the summer when we are desperate for striker and it is our number one goal for transfer window that two rivals get top strikers and we dont? Spurs aren't getting stronger trading Kane in for Vlahovic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Spurs aren't getting stronger trading Kane in for Vlahovic. They ain't selling Kane...Unless City can drop 150m... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Alabama said: They ain't selling Kane...Unless City can drop 150m... I agree, I don't think any of the big strikers move this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: We are really fucked if we dont get Haaland. Kane to City, Vlahovic to Spurs... After all this happen would not be surprised if we get desperate and drop 200m or something on Haaland. And I would support that deal. But if we dont get Haaland how depressing it would be, in the summer when we are desperate for striker and it is our number one goal for transfer window that two rivals get top strikers and we dont? Fucked in what context? Fight for top 4? If that happens that would make TT worse than Lampard (domestically) unless 4th requires mid to late 70's points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,374 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tomo said: Fucked in what context? Fight for top 4? If that happens that would make TT worse than Lampard (domestically) unless 4th requires mid to late 70's points. We need to fight for title. And I consider myself biggest optimist but if City gets just Kane (and even Grealish on top) and we dont get striker of that level I would drop white flag before season begins... Plus if City gets Kane and we cant get Haaland we should not allowed Spurs to take Vlahovic. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Between Konate, Upamecano, and Koundé I wonder how experts would rank these 3 French CB’s. All pretty much the same age, all about to step up to massive clubs. Upamecano had somewhat of a drop in performances this past season, didn’t he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,374 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: This is why I am surprised and mentioned it yesterday. I expected LCB. Maybe someone like Romagnoli. 2 minutes ago, Pizy said: Between Konate, Upamecano, and Koundé I wonder how experts would rank these 3 French CB’s. All pretty much the same age, all about to step up to massive clubs. Upamecano had somewhat of a drop in performances this past season, didn’t he? Only one was at the EUROS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said: This is why I am surprised and mentioned it yesterday. I expected LCB. Maybe someone like Romagnoli. Only one was at the EUROS. And sadly played out of position at fullback so we didn’t get to judge him properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, NikkiCFC said: This is why I am surprised and mentioned it yesterday. I expected LCB. Maybe someone like Romagnoli. Only one was at the EUROS. Surprised we didn't try to sign Bastoni before he renewed with Inter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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