Vytis33 1,272 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 51 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Was a lot of folk on the board who thought he was an upgrade on Conor…. The guy is absolutely shite Couldn’t have gone to a better manager for his skillset. They love him in Madrid OneMoSalah and bigbluewillie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, Vytis33 said: That KDH signing is looking more shocking every game he plays The price tag is what gets me. People can hate on Drinkwater as much as they want, but at least he was a PL winner. Edited March 7 by LAM09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 “Shocking acquisition” – Chelsea signing slaughtered by pundits after dreadful half https://Chelsea.news/2025/03/dewsbury-hall-Chelsea-slaughtered-pundits/ Chelsea have just played one of their worst halves of the season in the game away at Copenhagen. The Blues were so devoid of energy or ideas in the first period, it was honestly hard to watch. Simon Johnson of the Athletic called it what it was: “That’s the end of the what was a very dull half. 0-0. #CFC playing too slow and with little imagination/ideas,” he Tweeted. On TNT Sport, Joe Cole said they’ve been “playing at 85%”, which is perhaps even generous. There’s no excuse for not being at 100% in a European knockout game, no matter who you’re playing. They simply have to do better in the second period. If you want to put a number on it – they managed a total of 0.02 xG in the half – a truly pathetic effort. Copenhagen deserve a lot of credit for their efforts for sure, but this shouldn’t be a competition really. We expect something very different in the second period. Dewsbury-Hall gets slammed for efforts between the lines Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall dribbling. (Photo by Patrik Lundin/Getty Images) One player who has come in for particular criticism online is Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall. He’s been blessed with something of a free role between the lines on the left, but has been so poor. He’s not been able to create anything. Various influencers online called him a “useless flop”, some in even harsher language. “The fact he’s playing is spitting in the face of every academy midfielder,” said another. “The less said about Dewsbury-Hall the better. Shocking acquisition,” said Alex Goldberg of last summer’s £35m signing. “What does Dewsbury-Hall do?” was one question which rather summed it up. He ended the game with a 6.6 rating on SofaScore, which is the lowest of all the starters who completed 90 minutes. He’s not good enough for this level – and certainly not good enough for the level we want to get to. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,463 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Was a lot of folk on the board who thought he was an upgrade on Conor…. The guy is absolutely shite The more worrying thing for me isn't he sucks hard but the fact Maresca knew him and still picked to sign him. bigbluewillie and OneMoSalah 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Was a lot of folk on the board who thought he was an upgrade on Conor no, I do not recall that maybe a few, but not many do not conflate being ok with selling Conor with saying KDH was an upgrade bigbluewillie, Reddish-Blue and Fulham Broadway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Gallagher is fight for La Liga title playing Champions League while we get Championship Dewsbury Hall playing Conference League with unknown teams that the state of the club . Edited March 7 by milka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 hours ago, milka said: Gallagher is fight for La Liga title playing Champions League while we get Championship Dewsbury Hall playing Conference League with unknown teams that the state of the club . Well most people on here were saying he was shite and wanting him sold. Especially the Summer before last. OneMoSalah and Reddish-Blue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 596 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Former Man United and Blackburn chief scout Mick Brown: 🗣 "From what I hear, Chelsea feel he [Aaron Ramsdale] would be an upgrade on the options they’ve already got. Ramsdale is an England international and has been pretty highly rated throughout his career. He’s a decent goalkeeper, I’m not so sure whether he’s top-class, but that’s up to them to decide." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 15 hours ago, Vesper said: no, I do not recall that maybe a few, but not many do not conflate being ok with selling Conor with saying KDH was an upgrade Absolutely not. There was many many many more than just a few. But they know how daft they look now. Even getting Felix for Gallagher was conceived as a great deal by many…. again, how stupid did that move turn out? The manager didn’t even want him and he is now at his 3rd big club in about 5 seasons (2 spells here). Clearly an issue there. Not to mention the chance of a hit we will take with a sale so the whole PSR/FFP shit around that sale and buying Felix will probably end up undoing itself. Unless Milan are all of a sudden extremely flush and want to give us £42m+ Absolutely clear that CG could of had a good role here. Not even sure how folk could deny it after the season with Poch too. Still don’t get that if Maresca was as good a coach as he was to be perceived, why couldn’t he have coached CG into a better player in the way Simeone looks to have done also as well as how Poch improved him? 5 hours ago, King Kante said: Well most people on here were saying he was shite and wanting him sold. Especially the Summer before last. Precisely but seems to he a lot of back tracking and that it wasn’t that. Least he can run more than 5 yards without being out of breath too! Enzo Fernandez looks like he’s towing a static caravan still. Edited March 7 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Absolutely not. There was many many many . But they know how daft they look now. prove it the (your words) 'many many many more more than just a few' who said 'KDH was an upgrade' part (as that is what I am questioning) I do not recall that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 22 hours ago, TheHulk said: The more worrying thing for me isn't he sucks hard but the fact Maresca knew him and still picked to sign him. Maresca's talent id isn't exactly great, he let Felix/Carney leave in January and now we're stuck watching KDH play conference league games. 12 hours ago, mkh said: Former Man United and Blackburn chief scout Mick Brown: 🗣 "From what I hear, Chelsea feel he [Aaron Ramsdale] would be an upgrade on the options they’ve already got. Ramsdale is an England international and has been pretty highly rated throughout his career. He’s a decent goalkeeper, I’m not so sure whether he’s top-class, but that’s up to them to decide." That would be a horrific transfer. Ramsdale is not an huge upgrade on our current keepers. Vesper, mkh and bigbluewillie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 https://football-observatory.com/WeeklyPost494 Issue number 494 of the CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post presents the 100 players from outside the big-5 European leagues whose transfer value has risen the most over the last six months. At the top of the list is Porto's Spanish striker Samu Aghehowa, second top scorer in the Portuguese top flight, with an increase of €39 million (from €29.6m to €68.6m). Palmeiras' new Brazilian full international Estêvão Willian, owned by Chelsea, comes second with an increase of €30 million (from €30m to €60m). Benfica's Spaniard Álvaro Carreras completes the podium (+€28m) ahead of teammate Tomás Araújo (+€25m). Three other players active in Portugal are in the top 10 (Conrad Harder, Geovany Quenda and Roger Fernandes), along with Antoni Milambo (Feyenoord), Jan-Carlo Simić (Anderlecht) and Mika Godts (Ajax). All estimates have been calculated on the basis of a statistical model developed exclusively by the CIES Football Observatory research team, built on almost 10,000 paid transactions, as detailed in this scientific article. This tool presents the best-valued players per team in 65 leagues worldwide. A paying platform with weekly valuations of over 30,000 players is also available for professionals in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,325 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Vesper said: https://football-observatory.com/WeeklyPost494 Issue number 494 of the CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post presents the 100 players from outside the big-5 European leagues whose transfer value has risen the most over the last six months. At the top of the list is Porto's Spanish striker Samu Aghehowa, second top scorer in the Portuguese top flight, with an increase of €39 million (from €29.6m to €68.6m). Palmeiras' new Brazilian full international Estêvão Willian, owned by Chelsea, comes second with an increase of €30 million (from €30m to €60m). Benfica's Spaniard Álvaro Carreras completes the podium (+€28m) ahead of teammate Tomás Araújo (+€25m). Three other players active in Portugal are in the top 10 (Conrad Harder, Geovany Quenda and Roger Fernandes), along with Antoni Milambo (Feyenoord), Jan-Carlo Simić (Anderlecht) and Mika Godts (Ajax). All estimates have been calculated on the basis of a statistical model developed exclusively by the CIES Football Observatory research team, built on almost 10,000 paid transactions, as detailed in this scientific article. This tool presents the best-valued players per team in 65 leagues worldwide. A paying platform with weekly valuations of over 30,000 players is also available for professionals in the game. We should have already first, second and fourth on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: We should have already first, second and fourth on the list. I still have not ever heard a legit and actual reason why we bailed out on the Samu deal. Porto paid Atlético Madrid £12.5 million for 50% of his rights and also reserved the option to buy 30% of his sports rights in 2025 and 2026 for £4 million each year, and the last 20% of his rights for £3m in 2027. 23.5m quid in toto. He is deffo worth that IMHO, especially compared to the myriad dregs we dished out roughly the same or far more for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,097 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 26 minutes ago, Vesper said: I still have not ever heard a legit and actual reason why we bailed out on the Samu deal. Porto paid Atlético Madrid £12.5 million for 50% of his rights and also reserved the option to buy 30% of his sports rights in 2025 and 2026 for £4 million each year, and the last 20% of his rights for £3m in 2027. 23.5m quid in toto. He is deffo worth that IMHO, especially compared to the myriad dregs we dished out roughly the same or far more for. Personally I think they were approached about Felix as an alternative in the Gallagher swap deal, and preferred that + going for Osimhen who they thought they would land but instead bottled as they were sure he would agree to something sensible on salary but it turned out he was an insanely greedy prick and they ended up with Felix and a big gap where Samu could have been. The deal we were offered was also a lot more than 23.5 as we were not talking about split ownership (which you can't even do in PL and tbh should be banned everywhere), so we would have been paying full whack not this weird 'discount' rate where you get to play him but part own him and give up the fee in future on transfer etc. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Mhsc said: The deal we were offered was also a lot more than 23.5 as we were not talking about split ownership (which you can't even do in PL and tbh should be banned everywhere), the 23.5m was the total for 100 per cent of his rights AND paid out over time surely we could have paid 25m, £30m or so all at once, plus purchased Felix for a decent fee I am VERY unimpressed with our board when it comes to fees and also talent targeting in general, PLUS the insane refusal to buy some veterans for cheap to provide a sine and intangibles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,097 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Vesper said: the 23.5m was the total for 100 per cent of his rights AND paid out over time surely we could have paid 25m, £30m or so all at once, plus purchased Felix for a decent fee I am VERY unimpressed with our board when it comes to fees and also talent targeting in general, PLUS the insane refusal to buy some veterans for cheap to provide a sine and intangibles They refused to negotiate below £35m, played hard ball with us (gave a better deal to another club afterwards). Still, £35m was a reasonable price for him, with the benefit of hindsight now that we see how well he's handled Portugal so far And you were dead against Samu, you were actually extremely outraged they were even considering him... So it is not like it was a total no brainer to buy him. On this one, you should probably give them a break. Agreed tho on the refusal to pick up some good experienced pros hurting us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) With Samu, wasn't it his team refused to sign one of those ultra long contracts and his image right deal the club want everyone to sign? https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2024/08/12/samu-omorodion-rejected-chelseas-disrespectful-offer-21405393/amp/ Edited March 8 by King Kante LAM09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 6 hours ago, Vesper said: I still have not ever heard a legit and actual reason why we bailed out on the Samu deal. Porto paid Atlético Madrid £12.5 million for 50% of his rights and also reserved the option to buy 30% of his sports rights in 2025 and 2026 for £4 million each year, and the last 20% of his rights for £3m in 2027. 23.5m quid in toto. He is deffo worth that IMHO, especially compared to the myriad dregs we dished out roughly the same or far more for. It doesn't seem like we bailed on it. Just moved the goalposts & his team decided against going ahead with things. That's exactly something I can imagine those calling the shots to do, tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 27 minutes ago, LAM09 said: It doesn't seem like we bailed on it. Just moved the goalposts & his team decided against going ahead with things. That's exactly something I can imagine those calling the shots to do, tbh. I am not heartbroken over it atm. Irritated perhaps. Time will tell if we cocked it up badly. LAM09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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