Stats 7,147 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: This season is his highest scoring season since coming to England? How is it his worst season if 15 goals so far in the season is poor then fuck me we what one player with more than that? 😂 He has scored but missed a lot of sitters. Last season he started awful then had that massive goal glut where he could not top scoring. He started last season as a LCM too. It was only till after he was pushed forward, but it got to a point where his goal rate was so good last season, people were saying he is the complete no.9. I did not say it was his worst season but I said last season, the push was not as much as it is now to get a move. He has gone missing far too many times. He doesn't score enough goals with his feet. There is a reason Arteta has finally budged and made a bid for another striker. He has decent stats but his performances have been criticised heavily by his own fans. Just check the Havertz thread in the Arsenal forum throughout the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Stats said: He has scored but missed a lot of sitters. Last season he started awful then had that massive goal glut where he could not top scoring. He started last season as a LCM too. It was only till after he was pushed forward, but it got to a point where his goal rate was so good last season, people were saying he is the complete no.9. I did not say it was his worst season but I said last season, the push was not as much as it is now to get a move. He has gone missing far too many times. He doesn't score enough goals with his feet. There is a reason Arteta has finally budged and made a bid for another striker. He has decent stats but his performances have been criticised heavily by his own fans. Just check the Havertz thread in the Arsenal forum throughout the season. And Jackson hasn’t? We can’t talk about any ones number 9 missing sitters, Chelsea have turned it into an art form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said: Havertz killing it at arsenal, another player we just chucked in the bin before he shown his potential He's dreadful. Arsenal fans can't stand him and can't wait for him to be replaced. Even as bad as we've been recently, he'd be on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,940 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Nico Jackson and Havertz are players of the same level. Very solid strikers but not good enough to be THE #9 at either club if they have ambitions of winning a PL title. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Pizy said: Nico Jackson and Havertz are players of the same level. Very solid strikers but not good enough to be THE #9 at either club if they have ambitions of winning a PL title. There no similar players because havertz isn’t a number 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Mhsc said: He's dreadful. Arsenal fans can't stand him and can't wait for him to be replaced. Even as bad as we've been recently, he'd be on the bench. He would have scored more than Jackson this season, we have become deluded looking at other teams when our team is no where near where it should be, the fact we are happy to accept delap as a striker these days speaks volumes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: And Jackson hasn’t? We can’t talk about any ones number 9 missing sitters, Chelsea have turned it into an art form But no one said Jackson is killing it. He has been inconsistent. But you claimed Havertz is 'killing it' which is just not true. Mhsc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 14 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: He would have scored more than Jackson this season Nah, absolutely not. He would be a massive downgrade on NJ for 6x the weekly salary and 2x the transfer fee. His only plus side is his defensive workrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,331 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 44 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: So we wouldnt take a player scoring 15 goals so far this season? Ah no I forget we have a number 9 that couldn’t hit a house from a yard out my bad Jackson and Havertz scored same number of PL goals this season. Last season Nico one more. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said: Jackson and Havertz scored same number of PL goals this season. Last season Nico one more. Jackson is fucking shite, by the time we accepted that fact, I have no doubt havertz would have scored more in our team this season than Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 39 minutes ago, Stats said: But no one said Jackson is killing it. He has been inconsistent. But you claimed Havertz is 'killing it' which is just not true. In your opinion, when I watch havertz play for arsenal he looks twice the player he looked here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 45 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: There no similar players because havertz isn’t a number 9 What's his position? He's not a 10, not a 9, not a winger, not a 8. The guy isnt a great passer, finisher or dribbler, cannot beat his man. He's a hard worker, great at defending (as a 9), and has good overall link-up play. Did you see the sitter he missed again today? He has missed MASSIVE chances in almost all of Arsenal last 5 games, and their fans are now seeing what we knew already when they took him from us, he's decent at best. Never good enough for a top team. Mhsc and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: In your opinion, when I watch havertz play for arsenal he looks twice the player he looked here Fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would say he has found the net more at Arsenal but generally speaking the same levels of inconsistency is showing. I prefer Jackson to Havertz too. Havertz is a decent striker but like I say is just not prolific enough. He rarely ever scores goals like he did today. Very good at headers but I want my no.9 to strike fear to the opposition and he just doesn't. If they signed Watkins, they are complete. Blue Armour and Mhsc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Simon1991 said: What's his position? He's not a 10, not a 9, not a winger, not a 8. The guy isnt a great passer, finisher or dribbler, cannot beat his man. He's a hard worker, great at defending (as a 9), and has good overall link-up play. Did you see the sitter he missed again today? He has missed MASSIVE chances in almost all of Arsenal last 5 games, and their fans are now seeing what we knew already when they took him from us, he's decent at best. Never good enough for a top team. Havertz is a 10 imo, he would be great behind a proper number 9, here he was used as a 9 because we had no other options, and I believe if he was still here he would have scored more goals under this manager and poch than Jackson. We will never no it’s just opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Stats said: Fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would say he has found the net more at Arsenal but generally speaking the same levels of inconsistency is showing. I prefer Jackson to Havertz too. Havertz is a decent striker but like I say is just not prolific enough. He rarely ever scores goals like he did today. Very good at headers but I want my no.9 to strike fear to the opposition and he just doesn't. If they signed Watkins, they are complete. As it stands he’s a better number 9 than Jackson imo and Havertz isn’t really a number 9, Jackson is brilliant at getting into chances but he can’t put them away, you can’t coach that or teach it it’s just instinct and he doesn’t have it maybe he will, but my point still stands, if we had Havertz up top this season I honestly think we would have won these games Jackson managed to lose us points, yes the keeper fucks up and we lose games but half the time it’s because we have missed more chances to score and it always bites us in the arse Edited February 2 by YorkshireBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,280 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 do you forgot how he celebrated against us? Move on from that wanker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Mário César said: do you forgot how he celebrated against us? Move on from that wanker. I don’t care if they celebrate against us or not, I also remember he won us a champions league so who gives a fuck what he does now he doesn’t play here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Havertz is a 10 imo, he would be great behind a proper number 9, here he was used as a 9 because we had no other options, and I believe if he was still here he would have scored more goals under this manager and poch than Jackson. We will never no it’s just opinions He's not played in that position for 5 years, and most teams don't play with a classic number 10 anymore anyway. Yeah, move on, he's really a mid player, im glad we got 75m for that donkey lover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Simon1991 said: He's not played in that position for 5 years, and most teams don't play with a classic number 10 anymore anyway. Yeah, move on, he's really a mid player, im glad we got 75m for that donkey lover. Yeah the money was good, but money is worthless when u don’t reinvest it, so we got 75m and bought the likes of mudryk so why bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, YorkshireBlue said: I don’t care if they celebrate against us or not, I also remember he won us a champions league so who gives a fuck what he does now he doesn’t play here He fumbled up that chance and got lucky to be honest. And saying that when we had players like Silva, Kante, Chilly, even Giroud, who had more impact on that CL than Kai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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