Mário César 1,278 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Mhsc said: Garnacho is worse in every measurable way, much less of an all round player than Madueke, much more selfish. THAN MADUEKE. Very strange signing if we go after him, only makes any sense if its a mutual backscratch with them buying from the infamous Chelsea bomb squad. Madueke is very selfish kexik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,097 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Mário César said: Madueke is very selfish But no where near as bad as Garnacho! If you dislike Madueke, you will despise Garnacho. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,278 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Mhsc said: But no where near as bad as Garnacho! If you dislike Madueke, you will despise Garnacho. Madueke is very inconsequent Also If we buy garnacho, Madueke is the one I think will go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,097 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mário César said: Madueke is very inconsequent Also If we buy garnacho, Madueke is the one I think will go If we sign him its to replace Mudryk in the conference league squad, occasional sub appearance in PL for final 10 minutes. I am interested in almost any player at the right price, if we're talking £20m and he's coming in on only a small raise on £50k pw (supposedly his current salary) then why not. If we're talking money that isn't back of the sofa money then it would be mad to sign him. Edited January 21 by Mhsc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,278 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, Mhsc said: If we sign him its to replace Mudryk in the conference league squad, occasional sub appearance in PL for final 10 minutes. I am interested in almost any player at the right price, if we're talking £20m and he's coming in on and only a small raise on £50k pw (supposedly his current salary) then why not. If we're talking money that isn't back of the sofa money then it would be mad to sign him. Next season with estevao arrive we need to sell some winger and I believe that noni has the better market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 19 minutes ago, Mário César said: Next season with estevao arrive we need to sell some winger and I believe that noni has the better market I think the two you mention have a better market? Do you really expect them too to actually be here long? Screams profits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 55 minutes ago, Strike said: Does Garnacho get into the team ahead of Neto or Sancho or even Madueke rn? its not like we don't have options for the wing + we have Paez and Estevan coming in July. Why's the board prioritizing Garnacho, Gittens or Tel over a striker or even a GK Hard to say assuming the reports aren't just agents making noise. I'm not a fan of Madueke's game; think he's a player for a smaller team to be honest: too reliant on pace and power, which only gets you so far. 23 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Garnacho is worse in every measurable way, much less of an all round player than Madueke, much more selfish. THAN MADUEKE. Very strange signing if we go after him, only makes any sense if its a mutual backscratch with them buying from the infamous Chelsea bomb squad. Disagree on whether Madueke is better. They are incredibly different players. Garnacho is that short high work-rate winger who will do a good job blocking that side even when he's not firing in all cylinders; Madueke isn't very useful unless he's scoring or assisting, which unfortunately does not happen often enough. Agreed that it's not one of the glaring weaknesses esp with the younger SA players coming soon. On the other hand, watching us play suggests whoever is there atm isn't cutting and we lost(?) Mudryk. Perhaps it's just a player the club rates (he's young too) and the opportunity presented itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,278 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 18 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: I think the two you mention have a better market? Do you really expect them too to actually be here long? Screams profits I cant understand what you ask. Sancho and Net will not be in the market for obvious reasons. The only that left is madueke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 17 minutes ago, Mário César said: I cant understand what you ask. Sancho and Net will not be in the market for obvious reasons. The only that left is madueke 4 wingers for 2 positions Is fine. Nobody will be for sale. It's a direct mudryk replacement only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,278 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Marvin123 said: 4 wingers for 2 positions Is fine. Nobody will be for sale. It's a direct mudryk replacement only Im talking in the summer, not now ofc Edited January 21 by Mário César Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,928 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Even just looking at highlights on YouTube of Garnacho and he looks shite. Madueke has been bang average this season but I’m 100% positive that if you put together a highlight reel for him they’d be miles more impressive than what I’m watching of Garnacho. If the club is so desperate for another young winger to the point where we’re willing to spend another huge fee, there are surely MANY others out there who are better than this kid. Here’s an idea, how about one who actually scores goals? Why can’t we target wide attackers like Liverpool always seem to find like Luis Diaz, Jota, Mané etc? We always seem to get wide players who are good to great at everything except end product. Literally all 4 of our current wingers can beat players for fun in space, get into dangerous areas, and are good playing in tight spaces but then disappoint in the most important aspect which is scoring. Garnacho is just another one who will be exactly the same. NOT what we need. Napoli and Conte please save us from this transfer! Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 7 hours ago, Strike said: This would be good and leaves the door open for Gyokeres buy him I am all in for it he is a machine 52 total goals poduced in 37 games this season for club and country bigbluewillie, Blue Armour and Strike 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,272 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Blue Armour, Vesper, Strike and 4 others 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Pizy said: Already see some of our fans getting excited about Matt Law saying we’re “assessing midfield options,” but any move we do make there will almost surely be Ugo returning from loan. We won’t want to fuck with Strasbourg’s season and piss their fans off even more than they already are with BlueCo by recalling Santos. Don’t think anyone should get excited as if we’re going to go out there and buy some great new midfielder. Quite frankly if Santos is as good as folk make him out to be its a no brainer to recall him over Ugochuwku. Given the injuries. Strasbourg & BlueCo relationship will never get better anyway. Their fans have protested and objected to the partnership for almost as long as BlueCo have owned them so I don’t think that will be a sticking point. Its if there is a viable way to do it as some loan deals don’t have these options or have financial figures to make these recalls happen. Chelsea is the main club in the BlueCo portfolio/multi club model so everything that will be done irrespective is to benefit us. Even though its been an absolute mess from day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 12 minutes ago, Vytis33 said: what the hell is wrong with this bloke? I had no idea he was made of glass when we bought him mkh, bigbluewillie and Fernando 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,466 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, Vesper said: what the hell is wrong with this bloke? I had no idea he was made of glass when we bought him Didn't he have a bad injury just before we got him, these owners are clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,278 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 we really need another CM this window bluesman2610 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Didn't he have a bad injury just before we got him, these owners are clueless. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Strike said: Does Garnacho get into the team ahead of Neto or Sancho or even Madueke rn? its not like we don't have options for the wing + we have Paez and Estevan coming in July. Why's the board prioritizing Garnacho, Gittens or Tel over a striker or even a GK Garnacho is a right-footed left winger so with Muddy gone, his main competition would be Sancho (and perhaps Felix) Neto and Noni are left-footed RWers (mainly in Neto's case, almost always in Noni's case) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,928 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 29 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Quite frankly if Santos is as good as folk make him out to be its a no brainer to recall him over Ugochuwku. Given the injuries. Strasbourg & BlueCo relationship will never get better anyway. Their fans have protested and objected to the partnership for almost as long as BlueCo have owned them so I don’t think that will be a sticking point. Its if there is a viable way to do it as some loan deals don’t have these options or have financial figures to make these recalls happen. Chelsea is the main club in the BlueCo portfolio/multi club model so everything that will be done irrespective is to benefit us. Even though its been an absolute mess from day 1. If it were up to me I agree, we should bring him back. But I feel like it gets into really messed up territory if we start sending our feeder club talents, they become super key players there, and then we snatch them back midseason and thus derailing their season. Again, if we want to be cold and heartless I wouldn’t mind. But I can’t see our owners bringing that heat on themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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