Chelsea Transfers

[mkh 601]

Bayern Transfer Update News:

➡️ Nkunku to Bayern in January is off.
➡️ Mathys Tel wants to stay at Bayern.
➡️ Bayern want Diomande in summer.
➡️ Musiala will extend with exit option.
➡️ Mosquera to Bayern not a hot topic.

[via@SkySportDE]

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

8 hours ago, Mário César said:

we bought felix for 50M and now we're going to loan him out?

Does that even make sense?

we waste 50M???

You seem shocked. The co-sporting directors are idiots & should be held accountable. 

I mean loaning Chalobah then recalling him 6 months later when he was better than Tosin from the get go is the most recent one.

KDH signing in general - sooner he is shipped out the better as was a waste of time and money. 

Signing Veiga and now looking at selling him, apparently Maresca didn’t want from the get go & now off the field issues… do the club not do their homework on that side of things also? And looks even stupider given the managers frozen out Chilwell and the club let Hall go to Newcastle too. 

Felix as well now looking likely, signed for £42m and now going to be sold. Again, Maresca didn’t want him if reports are to be believed. 

Anyone who tries to say they are competent are having a laugh. Thats just some iffy decisions from players signed this summer alone. Not to mention that again now all the manager will be talking about the whole month is outgoings, just like the summer. Can see him getting irritated even more given how bad results have been the last 5/6 weeks.

Personally would get shot of the fucking pair of them co sporting cunts in the summer and go a different way, cannot keep signing u21 players and expect to be competitive and win trophies. Absolutely shambolic. You can see the team lacks know how and leaders - yet its always u21 kids we are after. Been banging on about them for at least 1 and a half years now - absolutely out of their depth and ruining any chance we have of getting back to competing at the top end of the table.

Also big no to Garnacho and Gittens. Good prospects but sign a good, established player who will do it week in week out for the next 4/5 years. Someone who is going to bring some much needed goals and assists to help Cole out. 

Edited January 17 by OneMoSalah

[mkh 601]

Chelsea are considering selling a host of players to try and fund a January signing. (@Matt_Law_DT)

[Vesper 30,208]

The Sporting Directors MUST be held accountable

Their treatment of Trev and failure of the summer window are examples of their poor decisions

https://siphillipstalkschelsea.substack.com/p/the-sporting-directors-must-be-held

I wrote an article recently on our sporting directors, Paul Winstanley and Laurence Stewart. I said in that article that they’d done a good job rebuilding the football infrastructure of the club and made some good signings. That remains the case. It doesn’t change because of what’s happened this week.

I’ll always give credit where its due, and I’ll never get into dehumanizing labels or personal attacks as others do sometimes. They may well be good men who work hard at their job and have some expertise, and I’m not gonna dispute that or ever disrespect them as people.

But the situation with Trevoh Chalobah might be the final straw for me as regards their suitability for their current jobs. Looking at Twitter, about 90-99% of fans there now want the sporting directors gone, and I don’t blame them. This, to me was the final straw in many ways.

Frozen out in the summer, they publicly briefed he was for sale, that we wanted him gone, didn’t fit Enzo Maresca’s system and he was made to train with the kids teams. Now he is welcomed back with a phone call - still unclear whether that was Behdad Eghbali or Winstanley - and we’re told he’s important to the first team and he can suddenly, miraculously fit with Maresca’s system.

That volte face is not only a sign of awful man management and disrespect to the player, its also clearly demonstrating their squad building skills are poor. Its incompetence and its unprofessional, and not fitting for a club the size of Chelsea. There’s basic standards of decency and respect, and honouring someone’s service to a club, and I don’t believe Trev, nor Conor Gallagher, have been shown that. And as a fan, I’m not ashamed to say it makes me really angry. Trev’s loyalty has been shoved in his face too many times, and now its being used to bring him back.

That’s just shocking behaviour from the Sporting Directors. Players are people, human beings, not commodities.

Outside of this, the Sporting Directors spent a billion of the clubs and owners money on this squad and we’re 4th. That IS progress, many didn’t predict that last summer and some of their signings have been successful. I’m not going to back down on my previous points about some signings and appointments being good ones.

However, the last summer window now looks more and more like a shambles.

Two of the players we signed then, Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall (surely a candidate for the Chelsea worst signing squad), and Renato Veiga, who I think has done well for us so far, could both depart this window. Even Tosin Adarabioyo, who I think has been a really smart signing who’s done relatively well and added some leadership and experience, has been linked with a move. Where’s the planning with all these?

Looking further back, Axel Disasi, a Laurence Stewart signing, looks to be moving on after 18 months, and Benoit Badiashile, another Stewart signing, could be in the summer.

The club have signed countless goalkeepers in the last two years, none of whom are yet good enough to be Chelsea number one. That’s at least 6-7 signings which either haven’t worked or could be gone relatively quickly. There’s a good chance one of the wingers will depart in the summer as well, and other signings are under scrutiny.

To be balanced, the sporting directors have made some good signings. I’m not here to make personal attacks or be unbalanced and rude. They deserve credit for Andrey Santos, Lesley Ugochukwu, Estevao Willian, Cole Palmer, Jadon Sancho, Enzo Fernandez, Romeo Lavia, Malo Gusto, Aaron Anselmino, Noni Madueke, Pedro Neto, Tosin and even Renato Veiga, who I think has been a shrewd signing, and extending Levi Colwill and Josh Acheampong.

They’ve also sold very well, bringing in over £430m and getting huge fees for Kai Havertz and Mason Mount, which now look excellent deals for Chelsea.

However, their overall squad building has been poor. We have a first team, but our squad isn’t strong enough in depth, and they’ve made consistently bad decisions in some areas and their treatment of Trev - and also Conor Gallagher last summer - is simply unprofessional. Recalling him after trying to force him out of the club brutally last summer is embarrassing, shameful and undermines any credibility or trust they had with the fans.

Not only that, it also undermines their credibility with the players and outside of Chelsea too. It gives the impression they have no idea how to manage players and no idea how to build a squad. I know there is an overall plan for the long term, as I’ve said many times here, but the execution of it hasn’t been top class at all.

We cannot keep blaming the manager for failures in the squad (we’re into their second appointment now) and not hold those above him to account. They built this squad, they spent the money, they made the decisions, they treated players poorly, so like in any job, they should be held accountable for what they’ve done. I won’t judge Enzo Maresca too harshly until he’s given a full squad he trusts and suits how he wants to play. Right now, he doesn’t have that.

The other failure is this continued unwillingness to sign some good experience in the squad. We need more established players of requisite ability, with experience, who have leadership qualities. Our inexperience is showing in recent games, and again, that’s down to the squad composition.

The sporting directors have spent about £1 billion in two years, and although there’s been improvement, there’ve been too many mistakes and bad decisions, and poor man management. How is it after two years of the sporting directors, we still need a proven CB with leadership qualities, still need a top GK and a powerhouse striker and elite finisher? Nicolas Jackson is one of their successes, but he needs proper support and we need a different profile up front, and its still not been properly addressed.

Surely the owners expect a better return on their investment than so many being sold on so quickly and still not having a deep squad two years later?

We were told in 2022 during the takeover we would appoint best in class, and respectfully, Paul Winstanley and Laurence Stewart aren’t acting like “best in class” at all.

Best in class means someone like Luis Campos, Monchi, Michael Edwards, or Andrea Berta (pictured above), who just left Atletico Madrid after many successful years, and is available. It was rumoured Todd Boehly looked at Berta during the takeover.

You need elite people to run elite football clubs, winners who command respect, have historically built successful, trophy winning squads, who not only can spot talent but know what's needed, both in talent, profile and intangibles, in a squad to win major trophies.

Paul Winstanley and Laurence Stewart have some positive qualities and have done some good work in specific areas, as I’ve outlined. This isn’t an agenda driven article, I’m tying to be fair and balanced. But the evidence is clear, squad building is clearly not a strength of the Sporting Directors, and quite frankly, man management isn’t either. If they want us to give credit when it goes well, they need to hold their hands up and be held to account for their failures.

If they are to remain at Chelsea, it should be in roles which suit their skill set. We need a best in class sporting director who can build an elite squad and manage players and staff well and gain their respect - even the ones who end up leaving - and has respect in the wider football community.

The majority of the fanbase have had enough of mixed or bad decisions with a constant lack of accountability. This is our club, we deserve the best, we deserve some accountability, and we’re not getting either currently. Its simply not good enough, and fans are tired of excuses and PR talk. We need action, and answers.

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[robsblubot 3,595]

I like Garnacho and compared to Mudryk, he'd be a huge upgrade. Yes, his game is raw atm, but he's 20yo, so that comes with the package despite of what you hear here. I'm worried about our inability to press high, and Garnacho does a good job at that.

With Chalobah back, I'd wait until summer unless the perfect target is available. Trev has the necessary pace to work in Maresca's system which (intends to) employ a higher D line.

Is anyone surprised with Fofana's season-ending injury? What was the club (not) thinking?!

Edited January 17 by robsblubot

[Pizy 18,941]

I hate every single link I’m seeing, ffs. Garnacho, Adeyemi, Tel. Getting rid of players we should keep. Refusing to go after players in positions of dire need.

 

[Vesper 30,208]

31 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I hate every single link I’m seeing, ffs. Garnacho, Adeyemi, Tel. Getting rid of players we should keep. Refusing to go after players in positions of dire need.

 

well, you can always read my targets (but we will never move for the ones I push for)

[Vesper 30,208]

5 hours ago, DDA said:

we were in a 4 phased transfer plan

Phase 1 - assfuck, with promises of chocolates and flowers afterwards, but they do not arrive

Phase 2 - assfuck, again with the promises of chocolates and flowers afterwards, but they do not arrive

Phase 3 - assfuck, again with the promises of chocolates and flowers afterwards, but they do not arrive

Phase 4- sorry, no chocolates, no flowers,............... now bend over

[Mário César 1,280]

2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

You seem shocked. The co-sporting directors are idiots & should be held accountable. 

I mean loaning Chalobah then recalling him 6 months later when he was better than Tosin from the get go is the most recent one.

KDH signing in general - sooner he is shipped out the better as was a waste of time and money. 

Signing Veiga and now looking at selling him, apparently Maresca didn’t want from the get go & now off the field issues… do the club not do their homework on that side of things also? And looks even stupider given the managers frozen out Chilwell and the club let Hall go to Newcastle too. 

Felix as well now looking likely, signed for £42m and now going to be sold. Again, Maresca didn’t want him if reports are to be believed. 

Anyone who tries to say they are competent are having a laugh. Thats just some iffy decisions from players signed this summer alone. Not to mention that again now all the manager will be talking about the whole month is outgoings, just like the summer. Can see him getting irritated even more given how bad results have been the last 5/6 weeks.

Personally would get shot of the fucking pair of them co sporting cunts in the summer and go a different way, cannot keep signing u21 players and expect to be competitive and win trophies. Absolutely shambolic. You can see the team lacks know how and leaders - yet its always u21 kids we are after. Been banging on about them for at least 1 and a half years now - absolutely out of their depth and ruining any chance we have of getting back to competing at the top end of the table.

Also big no to Garnacho and Gittens. Good prospects but sign a good, established player who will do it week in week out for the next 4/5 years. Someone who is going to bring some much needed goals and assists to help Cole out. 

so to sold gallagher we brough felix? Lol

All because we needed cash and sold a academy player was good for our fpf and after that we brought felix and KDH LOL

we downgrad our squad and we offer gallagher 

jesus christ

[mkh 601]

Torino are in London to meet Chelsea and offer €9m plus bonuses for Cesare Casadei, with Chelsea receiving 40 per cent cut of future sell-on fee.

@DiMarzio

[TheHulk 2,475]

2 minutes ago, mkh said:

Torino are in London to meet Chelsea and offer €9m plus bonuses for Cesare Casadei, with Chelsea receiving 40 per cent cut of future sell-on fee.

@DiMarzio

Can't even get what we paid for him.

[Mário César 1,280]

53 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Can't even get what we paid for him.

a total waste of money

[lluubbeenn 174]

We bought Casadei, because that was the only way to get rid of Lukaku wages. He only wanted Inter and they didn’t want to pay anything. We picked a talented youngster to give them some money so they can give some of it back as a loan fee. One of these modern deals. 
 

City really are reminding me of our 2023 January window. Getting someone new every day. Hope it doesn’t work for them either. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

18 hours ago, mkh said:

🇵🇹 Pedro Neto (£50.7m) Maresca wish
🇵🇹 Joao Felix (£44m) Maresca didn't want to
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall (£30m) Maresca didn't want to
🇩🇰 Filip Jørgensen (£20.5m) 
🇧🇪 Mike Penders (£16.9m)
🇦🇷 Aaron Anselmino (£14m)
🇵🇹 Renato Veiga (£11.8m) Maresca didn't want to
🇺🇸 Caleb Wiley (£8.5m)
🇪🇸 Marc Guiu (£5m)
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Tosin Adarabioyo (Free) Maresca didn't want to
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Jadon Sancho (Loan) Maresca wish

Maresca didn't want KDH even though he coached him at Leicester?   

The only reason Tosin was signed was because he was an ex-City academy player (he had an offer from Newcastle which he declined once he spoke to Maresca)...similar reason to why Sancho was signed (ex-City academy player). 

 

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

10 hours ago, TheHulk said:

Can't even get what we paid for him.

Will be the same for Kellyman (that random youngster we signed from Villa for FFP purposes) in 1-2 years time when he's sold to a Championship club for 500k + "future sell on clauses". 

[DDA 9,941]

City are what we wish we were. We have been saying that for years and it’s true. 

Their first bad patch in a decade and they go out and buy 4 serious players. 
 

Look at us.. absolute shambles of a club. If we don’t get a striker or CB and bring back one of our midfielders in this window.. im done supporting this board. Time to start seeing the situation for what it is, a complete and utter disgrace of ownership.

[Mhsc 1,098]

11 minutes ago, DDA said:

City are what we wish we were. We have been saying that for years and it’s true. 

Their first bad patch in a decade and they go out and buy 4 serious players. 
 

Look at us.. absolute shambles of a club. If we don’t get a striker or CB and bring back one of our midfielders in this window.. im done supporting this board. Time to start seeing the situation for what it is, a complete and utter disgrace of ownership.

Very different situation though, they are facing a situation more like what we faced at the end of the Drogba/Terry/Lampard era, where we had an insane squad that just happened to all be old 'all of a sudden'. We've got a very promising young team that is just supposed to get better. There situation cannot be ignored and it cannot be hoped that it will improve - without intervention, they are guaranteed to continue to seriously deteriorate. I'm sure they knew this was coming but thought they had another season or so.

That said I don't disagree that we should be trying to bring in some elite players into the XI asap, just think City's situation was actually far more desperate than ours. January not the best window for that but still, at least 1 - any elite striker or CB we can get ahold of.

Edited January 18 by Mhsc

[Pizy 18,941]

36 minutes ago, DDA said:

City are what we wish we were. We have been saying that for years and it’s true. 

Their first bad patch in a decade and they go out and buy 4 serious players. 
 

Look at us.. absolute shambles of a club. If we don’t get a striker or CB and bring back one of our midfielders in this window.. im done supporting this board. Time to start seeing the situation for what it is, a complete and utter disgrace of ownership.

City’s ownership have looked at the current situation they’re in and have literally said “no, we refuse to let ourselves finish outside of the UCL places this year” and are taking immediate, aggressive action to ensure they don’t. They’ve completely refreshed their team in the span of a couple of weeks and are now reportedly after a new midfielder which they badly need.

Seriously, how embarrassing is it that City, who have the best #9 on the planet already, have gone out and spent €80m on his fucking backup whilst we have only Nico Jackson who has missed 50 chances in the last month and there’s not even a peep about us pursuing a striker?

It’s simple, City’s club ethos in the market is about not only the future, but the here and now. Ours on the other hand under this new regime is obsessing almost solely on what we could be 5 years from now. We need to stop targeting all these raw, unproven teenagers and start bringing in elite, experienced quality.

[milka 3,393]

Garnacho have potential  but how many more wingers do you need  when you need badly GK , CB and ST .

Edited January 18 by milka

[TheHulk 2,475]

52 minutes ago, Pizy said:

City’s ownership have looked at the current situation they’re in and have literally said “no, we refuse to let ourselves finish outside of the UCL places this year” and are taking immediate, aggressive action to ensure they don’t. They’ve completely refreshed their team in the span of a couple of weeks and are now reportedly after a new midfielder which they badly need.

Seriously, how embarrassing is it that City, who have the best #9 on the planet already, have gone out and spent €80m on his fucking backup whilst we have only Nico Jackson who has missed 50 chances in the last month and there’s not even a peep about us pursuing a striker?

It’s simple, City’s club ethos in the market is about not only the future, but the here and now. Ours on the other hand under this new regime is obsessing almost solely on what we could be 5 years from now. We need to stop targeting all these raw, unproven teenagers and start bringing in elite, experienced quality.

Not to defend them but what do you want them to do now when they wasted all their load on garbage talents and shit players with only a few hits, we have fair play regulations on our back now, were pretty much fucked.

Edited January 18 by TheHulk