Mário César 1,278 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 19 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Most people should understand that this ownership's primary goal in maximising profits was to unload academy graduates while overpaying for subpar replacements. If they had their way, he would have been permanently sold in the summer. yes like gallagher was sold OneMoSalah and LAM09 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 44 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Most people should understand that this ownership's primary goal in maximising profits was to unload academy graduates while overpaying for subpar replacements. If they had their way, he would have been permanently sold in the summer. To be fair, with the way the PSR rules work, selling academy graduates is such an easy loophole. With Chalobah, what was the actual strategy in loaning him out....he's not a 20 year defender that will develop at Palace, he's already a squad player You either sell or keep him around as squad depth (unless Maresca wasn't a fan and wanted him out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 6 hours ago, mkh said: - Felix (also here you had to sign Joao because of Gallagher otherwise we wouldn't have gotten the good transfer fee because of the PSR rule) (Maresca doesn't trust Felix) - KDH horror transfer completely gambled away!!! (Maresca doesn't trust him) - Kellyman (had to be signed because of Maatsen otherwise we would not have gotten the high transfer fee because of the PSR rule) I still don't get why we had to sign Kellyman from Aston Villa...there were other offers for Maatsen. I was expecting the club to at least get a decent squad player from Aston Villa, not a youngster that will likely play zero minutes for us. KDH was a Maresca signing, I don't think it's Maresca not trusting him, he just looks off the pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,491 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 59 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Most people should understand that this ownership's primary goal in maximising profits was to unload academy graduates while overpaying for subpar replacements. If they had their way, he would have been permanently sold in the summer. Gallagher is nowhere near the quality of Caicedo, Enzo and Lavia Chalobah is okay but not close to Fofana or Colwill's level. We sold Omari Hutchinson and brought in Neto. I don't think they're overpaying for subpar replacements at all. If anything, it has helped improve the first XI Fernando and mkh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,326 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 23 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: You either sell or keep him around as squad depth (unless Maresca wasn't a fan and wanted him out). We couldn't get 20m for him last summer. After great performances in Palace we could get 35m. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: To be fair, with the way the PSR rules work, selling academy graduates is such an easy loophole. With Chalobah, what was the actual strategy in loaning him out....he's not a 20 year defender that will develop at Palace, he's already a squad player You either sell or keep him around as squad depth (unless Maresca wasn't a fan and wanted him out). I don't mind if those that come in are perceived as an upgrade. KDH for Gallagher? 😐 Chalobah's predicament became apparent, even when he scored against Tottenham. However, I believe no one was prepared to part with money for him, so the board took the next best thing in their opinion. I mentioned it before his loan was finalised: his flexibility and PL experience make him a great asset, despite his flaws. 2 hours ago, Strike said: Gallagher is nowhere near the quality of Caicedo, Enzo and Lavia Chalobah is okay but not close to Fofana or Colwill's level. We sold Omari Hutchinson and brought in Neto. I don't think they're overpaying for subpar replacements at all. If anything, it has helped improve the first XI It's not about whether they are good enough but who replaced them. Is KDH better than Gallagher, an English INT? Are Badi, Tosin, and Disasi better than Trev? I'd imagine almost everyone on this board would say no to both. It's one thing to replace "subpar" players with better ones; it's a totally different thing to just make stupid decisions. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,715 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 You can't just have talent after talent - especially when some will have to sit on the bench. Conor is good enough to start somewhere but not good enough for the football we play here. Lavia, Enzo and Caicedo are levels above Conor - so your replacement needs to be someone of the KDH level that knows how to play the system and can fill the void when an injury does occur. The issue has been that KDH has had trouble adapting into our squad, and hasn't been as effective as thought. A more dynamic midfielder may be needed but keeping what we had was not the answer as Gallagher would have just left regardless not getting minutes. Better to cash in. We need to cut the crap of shitting on the board as well. They've done a tremendous job in turning things around fairly quickly with a new model. In fact, to be where we are given a complete turnaround in how we are run and the methodology internally, its been great. They've clearly struggled to identify defensive talent more so than offensive, because bar Mudryk, we've been excellent in who we've offloaded and then kept/brought on. Estevao, Palmer, Neto, Noni, Jackson, Nkunku are all good to great and can make a profit on all of them. We're literally a CB and RB away from competing. Bring back Santos and let him be that dynamic midfielder who can do a bit of everything. bigbluewillie, Strike and Fernando 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,146 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On 27/12/2024 at 16:08, Vytis33 said: Noni has always struck me as a player who’d rather score a hat-trick in a loss than win a match. Good team player when things are going well for him but a negative drag when they’re not Well he scored a hat-trick against Wolves and we won 6-2 this season 😄 Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 10 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: I still don't get why we had to sign Kellyman from Aston Villa...there were other offers for Maatsen. I was expecting the club to at least get a decent squad player from Aston Villa, not a youngster that will likely play zero minutes for us. KDH was a Maresca signing, I don't think it's Maresca not trusting him, he just looks off the pace. I fully believe KDH was a was to pay big compensation for maresca but not have it on the books officially.... Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 16 hours ago, King Kante said: Virtually every club has insurance for injuries. Him being injured isn't a problem financially for the club, except from a premium perspective. It works like a car insurance, if you keep crashing your premium goes up and this club despite spending billions need to start watching what goes out that does not need to be and with Reece the premium will be through the roof as well as wages being outlayed and zero return Being injured i s a major problem for the club, the wage bill and the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 596 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 No chance of Chelsea recalling these three CBs: ❌ Trevoh Chalobah from Crystal Palace ❌ Alfie Gilchrist from Sheffield United. ❌ Bashir Humphreys will be going to Burnley permanently (obligation to buy) in the summer. (via@BobbyVincentFL) Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 9 hours ago, LAM09 said: It's not about whether they are good enough but who replaced them. Is KDH better than Gallagher, an English INT? Are Badi, Tosin, and Disasi better than Trev? I'd imagine almost everyone on this board would say no to both. It's one thing to replace "subpar" players with better ones; it's a totally different thing to just make stupid decisions. I didn't understand the KDH transfer when it happened as we don't need his skill set, seemed more like a transfer for Ange at Spurs where it's attack first mentality. 7 hours ago, Thor said: Conor is good enough to start somewhere but not good enough for the football we play here. Lavia, Enzo and Caicedo are levels above Conor - so your replacement needs to be someone of the KDH level that knows how to play the system and can fill the void when an injury does occur. No point saying Lavia is levels above Gallagher when one of them is out of action 90% of the time and the other is known for having strong fitness levels. Its like comparing Reece to the other top quality RB's, it's just not possible anymore as Reece is unfortunately made of glass, won't be too long before he has to retire early and become a coach. LAM09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 20 hours ago, TheHulk said: Another great defensive transfer from the mighty board that's going great. Veiga was a good buy bigbluewillie and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 17 hours ago, mkh said: 𝘽𝙍𝙀𝘼𝙆𝙄𝙉𝙂: Omar Marmoush will sign for Manchester City. ✍️🇪🇬🔵 [@youm7] Sky Germany reports that there have been no negotiations between Manchester City and Eintracht Frankfurt over Omar Marmoush. The original report came from the Sun (the epitome of truth (this is sarcasm)) and suggested that the defending Premier League champions will raid Frankfurt for their talisman this winter. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,491 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 11 hours ago, LAM09 said: I don't mind if those that come in are perceived as an upgrade. KDH for Gallagher? 😐 Chalobah's predicament became apparent, even when he scored against Tottenham. However, I believe no one was prepared to part with money for him, so the board took the next best thing in their opinion. I mentioned it before his loan was finalised: his flexibility and PL experience make him a great asset, despite his flaws. It's not about whether they are good enough but who replaced them. Is KDH better than Gallagher, an English INT? Are Badi, Tosin, and Disasi better than Trev? I'd imagine almost everyone on this board would say no to both. It's one thing to replace "subpar" players with better ones; it's a totally different thing to just make stupid decisions. Gallagher was starting week in week out last season. Do you see KDH starting right now? Don't know why you are comparing the two as if KDH was brought in to replace Gallagher. Badi Tosin and Disasi are not starting ahead of the first choice defense of Fofana and Colwill either. The board has not just spent on KDH, Tosin, Badi and Disasi. It was clear to everyone that KDH and Tosin particularly were bought in the summer as cover. Can't deny board has spent considerably to improve the first XI with Gusto, Cucu, Caicedo, Enzo, Lavia, Palmer, and not have limited players like Gallagher and Chalobah in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 596 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 𝙏𝙍𝘼𝙉𝙎𝙁𝙀𝙍 𝙉𝙀𝙒𝙎: Chelsea tempted to sign a centre-back in the wake of Wesley Fofana’s serious hamstring injury. [@lequipe] - Ilya Zabarnyi - Marc Guehi - Tomás Araújo - Abdukodir Khusanov - Cristhian Mosquera - Joel Ordóñez ✍️✅️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Strike said: Gallagher was starting week in week out last season. Do you see KDH starting right now? Don't know why you are comparing the two as if KDH was brought in to replace Gallagher. Badi Tosin and Disasi are not starting ahead of the first choice defense of Fofana and Colwill either. The board has not just spent on KDH, Tosin, Badi and Disasi. It was clear to everyone that KDH and Tosin particularly were bought in the summer as cover. Can't deny board has spent considerably to improve the first XI with Gusto, Cucu, Caicedo, Enzo, Lavia, Palmer, and not have limited players like Gallagher and Chalobah in it. We sold a midfielder, KDH was brought in to fill that void. That's why I'm mentioning the two. KDH should have never been bought & screamed Drinkwater vibes the moment the rumour started to circulate. I'm talking about the players they were brought into replace, not what is currently at the club. Tosin came on a free, so his signing was a no-brainer. Half of the players you mentioned are exactly that - limited. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,491 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 12 minutes ago, LAM09 said: We sold a midfielder, KDH was brought in to fill that void. That's why I'm mentioning the two. KDH should have never been bought & screamed Drinkwater vibes the moment the rumour started to circulate. I'm talking about the players they were brought into replace, not what is currently at the club. Tosin came on a free, so his signing was a no-brainer. Half of the players you mentioned are exactly that - limited. KDH is not filling the void left by Gallagher. He's never on the pitch and Gallagher played in all 38 games last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, Strike said: KDH is not filling the void left by Gallagher. He's never on the pitch and Gallagher played in all 38 games last season. Games played has no relevance at all. Once again, we lost a midfielder, we gained one. The concept isn't difficult to understand. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,491 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Fading in most games in the 2nd half Needed Lavia in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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